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Cavex ElSaviour
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Sorry about me whining, this is my first, and hopefully my last whine. Since the beginning of the game, and since i found BWhine ive never whined against GoA, Mythic, Mids or hibs, i just accepted the things as they were. But the coming patch (ok, ok, might take a while before its in europe) is worth whining for an armsman.
The first day i started playing i played an armsman, never EVER i had troubles grouping him. Not that we were popular, but it was a simple "of course we can use an extra tank", sure, alays place for a good tank. we werent loved like clerics, pallys, theurgists, minies or sorcs. but this was ok. Armsman are the solid "mid" class, not popular and not hated in groups. In RvR we are doing ok, in 1 vs 1 fights we stand our ground, and loose due to luck, RR, skill and when beeing jumped. Imo, this is what it should to be. With the coming changes Mythic pushes us in the "supporters" roll. we SHOULD be albion's MAIN tank,, not a supporters tank. With the coming changes we are either forced to go S+S or play a supporter for the main tank. But who should be the main tank then? aren't the armsman the heavy, thus main tank in albion?
But why the whine you might ask? only the damage of our stun style gets toned down, and that could be justified, Other classes, like scouts, casters and clerics got more reason to whine. They got nerfed badly.
All the other classes got their "golden" era, in the beginning of the game scouts were the gods of RvR, they could shoot someone from a great distance without running any risk, their dmg alteration is somewhat justified for the balance of the game. (although not historical correct, ppl ALWAYS go down after taking a few arrows). Clerics got their damage altered and their insta mezz on a timer because it was said they shouldnt be able to take down a tank that jumps them. (insta mezz --> stun --> smite smite smite --> helloooooo RP"s!!!!). Altough i think it has been toned down too much there are some pre's about nerfing them somewhat. Altough casters arent "nerfed" directly they are nerfed via SC, RA's resists etc, but again, they had their golden age pre SC, tanks were nothing more then rp cows for Any caster. (except when you jump them). dont try to charge a caster because you will be down to 10% before you can reach them, a slow tank might even lose then because of pbt (lost a stick fight against damionus theurg, no styles, had a damn slow pole, almost no qui and he had running pbt, didnt hit him once
).
So whats your point? My point is that every class that got nerfed one way or the other had a golden era, where they were fotm, where they were "uber". We are no PvE gods like pallies, or RvR gods like mercs (they will get their nerf sooner or later), we are a stable, solid class. I do not wish to be Uber or godwtfpwnu4tehwin like. I like my class with all its pre's and cons. (too little endurence, double speccing). I chose to be a poler to be an offensive tank. some people argue that the change s are good, because in RvR you help the other tanks out and with the stun chaining of a back style this should be easier to use. yes, its a bitch for soloers but it's a realm vs realm game and not a solo game....
Bah, even in the biggest zergs there are small fights to win. engage another tank, and fight him/her one on one (or with help from a fellow nuker/cleric ofc ). And besides that. even when you don't engage a mid/hib alone, the armsman should be the MAIN tank because they are the HEAVY tank of albion.
Another reason why not to implement the changes is because of the total redundance of the lvl 50 style. That style also chaines after a back style, with the option between that style or the stun style ppl will never use it again, so why train pole to 50? you can get "almost" the same dmg with SC and RR.
Bah, armsman never got love, never whined greatly, and ppl never whined about armsman beeing uber. So why the change?
IF the pole changes come in (still not gone live on the "real" servers) I'm 100% going to try out the X-Bow spec (46 slash, 46 shield and 40 x-bow), might be a future fotm spec
P.s.
I know whining doesnt help, but it does feel good
The first day i started playing i played an armsman, never EVER i had troubles grouping him. Not that we were popular, but it was a simple "of course we can use an extra tank", sure, alays place for a good tank. we werent loved like clerics, pallys, theurgists, minies or sorcs. but this was ok. Armsman are the solid "mid" class, not popular and not hated in groups. In RvR we are doing ok, in 1 vs 1 fights we stand our ground, and loose due to luck, RR, skill and when beeing jumped. Imo, this is what it should to be. With the coming changes Mythic pushes us in the "supporters" roll. we SHOULD be albion's MAIN tank,, not a supporters tank. With the coming changes we are either forced to go S+S or play a supporter for the main tank. But who should be the main tank then? aren't the armsman the heavy, thus main tank in albion?
But why the whine you might ask? only the damage of our stun style gets toned down, and that could be justified, Other classes, like scouts, casters and clerics got more reason to whine. They got nerfed badly.
All the other classes got their "golden" era, in the beginning of the game scouts were the gods of RvR, they could shoot someone from a great distance without running any risk, their dmg alteration is somewhat justified for the balance of the game. (although not historical correct, ppl ALWAYS go down after taking a few arrows). Clerics got their damage altered and their insta mezz on a timer because it was said they shouldnt be able to take down a tank that jumps them. (insta mezz --> stun --> smite smite smite --> helloooooo RP"s!!!!). Altough i think it has been toned down too much there are some pre's about nerfing them somewhat. Altough casters arent "nerfed" directly they are nerfed via SC, RA's resists etc, but again, they had their golden age pre SC, tanks were nothing more then rp cows for Any caster. (except when you jump them). dont try to charge a caster because you will be down to 10% before you can reach them, a slow tank might even lose then because of pbt (lost a stick fight against damionus theurg, no styles, had a damn slow pole, almost no qui and he had running pbt, didnt hit him once
).So whats your point? My point is that every class that got nerfed one way or the other had a golden era, where they were fotm, where they were "uber". We are no PvE gods like pallies, or RvR gods like mercs (they will get their nerf sooner or later), we are a stable, solid class. I do not wish to be Uber or godwtfpwnu4tehwin like. I like my class with all its pre's and cons. (too little endurence, double speccing). I chose to be a poler to be an offensive tank. some people argue that the change s are good, because in RvR you help the other tanks out and with the stun chaining of a back style this should be easier to use. yes, its a bitch for soloers but it's a realm vs realm game and not a solo game....
Bah, even in the biggest zergs there are small fights to win. engage another tank, and fight him/her one on one (or with help from a fellow nuker/cleric ofc
). And besides that. even when you don't engage a mid/hib alone, the armsman should be the MAIN tank because they are the HEAVY tank of albion. Another reason why not to implement the changes is because of the total redundance of the lvl 50 style. That style also chaines after a back style, with the option between that style or the stun style ppl will never use it again, so why train pole to 50? you can get "almost" the same dmg with SC and RR.
Bah, armsman never got love, never whined greatly, and ppl never whined about armsman beeing uber. So why the change?
IF the pole changes come in (still not gone live on the "real" servers) I'm 100% going to try out the X-Bow spec (46 slash, 46 shield and 40 x-bow), might be a future fotm spec
P.s.
I know whining doesnt help, but it does feel good