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Ialkarn

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Originally posted by lofff
That " i dont need slam cos sum1 else in group will do that job" is a cheap argument... And albion had no end chant a few patchs ago by then u wouldnt say a pally-less group was gimped, CC and speed are the 2 "musts" for a group..
pps: gunz is gay.. irl.. etc


cheap argument? you play in a group and all got a different role.
No end chat ofc but still the best group insta heal of the game,group chants etc,all stuffs a s/s armsman don't have.

Originally posted by lofff

The weaponskill loose (dmg output, bonus to hit) from 50pole 50weapon to 50pole 39weapon aint noticeable at all neither, specially after a few realm ranks and buffed as u should b in rvr groups.. again a cheap argument...

Sorry but here you seem to ignore how weaponskill work:
if your target have 1 weaponskill point more than you his parry/block/evade rate 'll be greatly increased,and you ll have a less weaponskill than ALL tank classes in game whit a spec like that.

Originally posted by lofff

pure tanks (armsmen, warriors and heros) are the ONLY ones u can talk about been really SIMILAR. All of em have almost the same skills, all of em have the same rol, the differences are so tiny and insignificant..


Again.that is totally opinable: same role? armsmen can be offensive OR defensive heroes and Warriors are both ,whitout gimp themself;if that don't make difference in your eyes ...

Originally posted by lofff

About annihilation.. I am the one doing the stunning in my groups, no theres no hero assisting me to stun ppl.. anni is back positional yes, but its preety easy to land, costs half end than slam, hurts like hell and has an huge bonus to hit while slam has no bonus at all. anni > slam

well sorry but if you are the main stunner of your group,your group is gimped then,cause a positional stun its 100 times inferior as effectivness than a no time style stun.
then an armsman can spec 23 shield and get a 6 sec backstyle stun,but it wouldn't be like slam,and no your 50 style isn't like slam and no you can't be a properly main stunner in a group.

Originally posted by lofff

A full pole trying to defend his caster friend just whacks me while i kill his friend "hoping to kill me in time?" (sumtimes breaks a qcroot also been very helpfull..) An hybrid stuns me, casters flees taking range and nukes or does whatever his job is, f hybrid keeps on me (whacking) am alrdy worried bout my hps when stun wears off, f he doesnt cos he had sth better to do like killing my bard friend hes a clever player who saved his caster, nullified my defense on my bard, and killed my bard. Ill rather invite the hybrid to my group.


No one said a pure melee tank specced have to protect casters damn.you play in a group ppl have a role inside the group,someone sayng beserkers have to protect casters?no so why a pole tank specced should be gimped and respec to protect a caster when another class can do it better than him?
beserkers=main melee damage dealers of Midgard
pole users=main melee damage dealers of Albion
now don't come to say they are totally different,cause ofc they are but that is how things going.
Also in a group 2 meleer should ALWAYS stick togheter picking the same target,if not something is wrong ,cause except a beserker,no one is able to kill someone enought fast ,a caster who getting heals whit pbt can be a pain to kill or just require aloot of time,a thing who can put the group in troubles.
So tell me that:is better if picking a target are a slammer +a pure tank or a slammer+another slammer,bot not hight damage dealers?
the answer is obvious.
 
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lofff

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Originally posted by Ialkarn
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Wonder f u really think what u are typing or just talking outta ur arse.. id say ur just talking outta ur arse.. (mainly cos i dont wanna think u are an idiot.) Trying to defend the "offensive armsmen" rol .. which is a preety poor rol.. really too much shit.. Dont wanna turn the flames on so will just let it go.. u can read and use ur brains or keep on that attitude..



ah.. just 1 thing:

well sorry but if you are the main stunner of your group,your group is gimped then,cause a positional stun its 100 times inferior as effectivness than a no time style stun.
then an armsman can spec 23 shield and get a 6 sec backstyle stun,but it wouldn't be like slam,and no your 50 style isn't like slam and no you can't be a properly main stunner in a group.

I do use annihilation on duels, always, been there the hardest situation to use it since ur opponent is stuck to u, always facing.. U can ask any hib as its true and i keep using anni 90% time i do hit any1.. I did not said am the "main stunner" since theres no such a thing in rvr groups, all tanks are main stunners, MUST BE. (but light tanks ofc) And still when a hero assists me and slams my target always get a "The target has alrdy that effect etc" msg.. I am a proper stunner.. and i really dont bother f u doubt it..
 
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lofff

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And for all those who keep talking bout weaponskill..

Once again the difference will b insignificant, and been a puretank u will have more than decent weaponskill anyway. Selfbuffed my champ has 1394weaponskill, 1494 with a baseline str buff. Pure tanks get much higher and still i ate fully buffed armsmen in duels.. why? Cos as everything in this game the closest u get to cap the leser gain u get.. I dont get parried/blocked/evaded a shit (prolly using anni and his huge bonus to hit helps) and i do hurt, but specially, after stunning my target THERES NO CHANCE to get parried/evaded/blocked/anything..

The parry loose and the tiny bit weaponskill loose are worth the stun gain, making u able to kill more effectivelly and for once, to defend properly (stunning attackers).

If u really cant understand it, then u have choosen the right realm. :sleeping:
 
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Ialkarn

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Originally posted by lofff
Wonder f u really think what u are typing or just talking outta ur arse.. id say ur just talking outta ur arse.. (mainly cos i dont wanna think u are an idiot.) Trying to defend the "offensive armsmen" rol .. which is a preety poor rol.. really too much shit.. Dont wanna turn the flames on so will just let it go.. u can read and use ur brains or keep on that attitude..




Originally posted by lofff

If u really cant understand it, then u have choosen the right realm. :sleeping:

sad...
I didn't offend you in any of my posts,but prolly you aren't enought mature yet to have a debate.
Are you pissed cause I don't agree whit you Lofff?or you just want to have the last word? :doh:
The only shit I saw in this thread was posted by you just now.
I 'm sorry but I don't argue whit kids. bye..
 
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lofff

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Originally posted by Ialkarn
sad...
I didn't offend you in any of my posts,but prolly you aren't enought mature yet to have a debate.
Are you pissed cause I don't agree whit you Lofff?or you just want to have the last word? :doh:
The only shit I saw in this thread was posted by you just now.
I 'm sorry but I don't argue whit kids. bye..

Actually u are been the inmature kid.. f u cant read and discuss properly its ur problem, i dont need to argue.

Once again u are not giving decent arguments, just bullshitting and running in circles.. cya around.
 
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jox

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I dont think the question is shield or not.

The big question is; X-bow 50 or X-bow 44.

I specced in X-bow with my armsman, its uber.

Once i shot a grey con mob.

And missed.

Think Mythic should pick up the nerfbat.
 

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