Are you having second thoughts....

[Frosty]

Hey Guys

For all that knew Goa with daoc and the hassle we had with translating and patches etc, And now the lack of communication about warhammer and the lack of content on the euro web site.

Are you feeling like you would prefur to play the US version.
After playing goa daoc i left to play us daoc and i said i would never return to goa , but im at that stage again.

Ive preordered the collector box and got my key codes but myself and a few friends are thinking take the money as a loss and go play on the us servers.

Yes the time diffrence could be a pain but you all ways get good support and patchs when they are ment to come and informed in a timely manner.

Anyone else got any thoughts

 

[Xandax]

Currently I am, but I'll stick with the EU version just to give GOA a chance to actually step it up in OB/HS/Live - but the current level of service/feedback from GOA is too low and too sporadic for my liking and their either incompetence or laziness with updating the websites makes me feel right back in DAoC.

If GOA messes up, I'll just leave the game unless I really get hooked. I'll not once more pay for sub-par service as I did in DAoC.
Been there, done that.

 

[Billargh]

I think it'll be fine and Goa will get it right this time. For the first few years at least.

 

[Paragon]

Im definitely going to stick with the EU servers first.

If after launch they don't meet the bar, then it's either NA servers or just stop playing.

But given the time difference i definitely prefer the EU servers, so i'm going with the benefit of the doubt till launch and then from there see what happens.

 

[Lejemorder]

I think it'll be fine and Goa will get it right this time. For the first few years at least.

I hope GOA and Mythic makes sure eu and US get the patchs at the same time.

 

[Amelyn]

Im gonna stick with EU.

Pronlem with US is that playhours differs quite a bit, don't want low population when I play.

 

[Faya]

I hope GOA and Mythic makes sure eu and US get the patchs at the same time.

I allways liked having the US patched first, which useally gave EU a chance to get a patched patch

But as many second thoughts i have, WAR is THE gam to play, by whatever means, be it on EU servers or migrating to the US after a while.
Hard to have confidence in GOA, but so far i actually not dissapointed...well maybe abit, but we cant be all in Beta

Faya

 

[Kuldiin]

I still have Lich King on order with Game =)

 

[Flimgoblin]

I've got my two euro CEs pre-ordered from play.com and they're staying ordered.

 

[Malcolm]

I'm definitely sticking with Euro as that's where my guild and alliance chums will be

even if i have to put up with the gimpy chap in the post above

 

[cuddled0rf]

Hmm, so far im gonna stay europe, got the CE keys n stuff, but already i am starting to recall the days when we had to go to the german or french site and use babelfish to translate to get a news update. I never minded the patch difference too much, except during the savage-1shotting-casters period, but the lack of information from goa via official channels was a right pain, half the time info was from someone who had talked to gm via strange channels instead of a prompt and fast post on their website. Must say that so far it doesnt look all that good in my oppinion and a US account may be the way forward if they look to be continuing the pattern of DAoC.

 

[Downanael]

Would prefer US but due to the timezones they are basically out of my reach,just have to hope GOA manages to do it right this time.

 

[Oldleaf]

I start with EU and if i dont like the service of GOA i move to US. I want to invest in the game for years and i dont want the same happens as in DAOC, empty servers while US is still alive and kicking.

 

[bobfish]

EU & GOA, if they fail I will just quit WAR, I can't do the late nights / early mornings anymore.

Everyone else manages to do near simultaneous patches for NA & EU, if Mythic and GOA can't pull it off it's going to really hurt their business. Support issues don't bother me, rarely have a reason to contact support in games.

 

[JohnnyBoy555]

I'm going to stick with EU server. GOA will be fine. They know they have made mistakes in the past, and they will learn from those.

Also the time difference on the US servers would make for a less than exciting experience. Unless you play in the early hours.

Then there is the increased server ping. Despite what anyone tells you about them getting a great connection. It is always going to be inferior to the one you will get form the Paris server.

 

[Muylaetrix]

there were a few good reasons why EU patches were later than US patches with daoc.

for starters the translation of a game which was never ment to be in any language but english. WAR was design from scratch to be available in english / french / german / italian / spanish, with chinese (both classic and simplified chinese servers )and korean following shortly and plans for a japanese version.

the plan of both mythic and goa is to have simultanious releases and patches, that was never the plan with daoc. i dunno if that will apply too for the asian servers though, but it should apply for the oceanic server(s) (yeah, thosse people down under get their own server(s)). we might even get to see spanish servers (that is just speculation from my side tbh) for middle and south america, who knows.

i never had reasons to complain about GOA service in my 6 years of DAOC in the past. Those 2-3 times i had to call on their support in daoc, i had my issue solved within 24 hours. seeing the service we get on the closed beta i am confident that goa will live up to MY expectations and what they say they will deliver.

the last 2-3 days have been a bit chaotic with them moving to the new data center i guess..

i will certainly not play on US. i don`t want a bigger sleeping disorder than i already have, lol. did i mention the US servers are full of yanks ?

 

[Aada]

Going to try EU servers if they balls that up i will just play Wrath of The Litch King.

The crappy fucking FLASH site is already annoying me to no end.

 

[Downanael]

Then there is the increased server ping. Despite what anyone tells you about them getting a great connection. It is always going to be inferior to the one you will get form the Paris server.

Why did i never get ping above 100 when i played on USA? distance has almost nothing to do with the network speeds we got nowadays.

 

[peo]

If service and information (and the quality of the game ofc) isn't up to par it will only be one month. More than that I won't give them. Considering the amount of "we focus on the release and not giving information or updating the website" we've seen the readiness and service for release must be outstanding to compare to the time that has been available.

 

[bobfish]

Of note delayed patches are entirely up to Mythic, not GOA.

Translation text will come from GOA, but Mythic must supply the English up front and in time, then GOA translates, a large patch up to four weeks, time, sends it back to Mythic who code it in and make the patch.

What has happened with DAoC, is that Mythic patched it to their servers before going through the translation process and making the GOA patch, which isn't GOA's fault that Mythic don't care about the EU customers.

 

[Spookie]

I hope GOA and Mythic makes sure eu and US get the patchs at the same time.

No problems so far...

 

[Malcolm]

indeed - it's a different kettle of fish this time

 

[JeevesFan]

I absolutely am, and I would already have cancelled my EU preorder were it not for one thing. Well, two things, really.

1. I'm already paid in full.
2. The US Collector's Edition is sold out.

That being said, every day is more frustrating and frightening than the last, because nothing so far is indicating that the EU experience will be any different than the DaoC one was. Sure, people can say it's a whole new GOA, but like the old saying goes: you'll know the tiger by its stripes and right now all I'm seeing is stripes.

 

[Amanita]

I've decided to play the EU servers, my little group of people discussed it and my biggest argument for staying with GoA is that I am just NOT up for staying up until 3-5am to get the most fun action. It wasn't good for me and I got sick and tired of "omg, you're an english woman?! Your accent makes me cum man!"

 

[Ormorof]

the GOA setup for WAR is massively different from what it was in DAoC

i believe in a post long long ago it was mentioned the DAoC english team had about 5 people working the WAR team is going to have hundreds also its not based in France as with DAoc but in Ireland so cant be all bad!

 

[JeevesFan]

Be that as it may, how come those hundreds of people in Ireland haven't managed stuff like a decent website? This is the problem. The potential is there and GOA keep saying that it'll be different this time around, but somehow it still feels like the same old.

All I want is reassurance, and a reason to hope and believe that it will all be better. Come on, guys - give us something here!

 

[Scorba]

Well two black marks for Goa straight out........laughably bad website which is just like the rubbish they produced for Daoc. I mean a multi million dollar/euro/pound launch and they produce a website that wasnt up to scratch seven years ago. Working link to press release for launch date ? nooo thats far to complicated for their brilliant web team.....That says invest as little as possible and gouge the suckers. Judging by the difference in customer service quality between US and EU Daoc, that is Goa's philosophy.

Second issue is that if you live in the US, you can pre order and get early entry to the game. No sign of anything like that in the UK now the CE issue has gone..... Could be that GOA will announce something soon or it may be that they are just happy to let everyone jam up the downlaod servers on release day just like those good old Daoc patches.

In two weeks of playing on US servers, I saw more GM activity than in four years of play on Excal...... The pathetic attempt at a website should be sending shivers down Mythics spine if they think all those WoW players are going to be impressed by GOA's 'new' service. Ofc it could be that Goa are going to offer the same as the US but their brillaint web team are still working on how to paste it up..........

Sad thing is, I'll still play with them cos the guild will but, if they screw it up I will go look at Lich King and Mines of Moria.

 

[cuddled0rf]

I really, really want to believe, i truely do. I never had much problems with goa's service as such on daoc, patch times were usually not that bad, a week maybe 2 later than US made sure we got the hotfixes included, and the GM's were usually good fun and nice people all around in my experience.
/em pulls out the soapbox
Every time i drop by the war website i get unsettled, and i'm not sure why...
Could it be the horribly laggy flash homepage that takes 20secs to load on a 4mbit connection? And only works most of the time, despite having no real difficult content at the moment?
Could it be the outdated FAQ (f.ex. release date) and class information?
Could it be the fact that updating a website run by one of the big guys in france requires actual downtime?
Could it be because the website runs better on my IE (as released with win xp, no updates) reads it better than my newly updated firefox? (can't even make a full beta registration in firefox)
Nope. Although those things are worrying in and by itself.
I get worried because information seems to flow from them like they were a probe on mars. About a weeks delay and very erratic. IanC stated in another forum "it would be silly posting a no news, newspost". Maybe, but a "all is going according to plan", "watch this space the comming week for interesting news!" or similar post would be better than doing nothing, making goa look like complete amateurs and unvilling participants in releasing one of the biggest game news this year.
My 2 cents
(which used to be a dollar -Colbert)

PS: i am convinced goa's presidents son took a flash 2 week course, and got a job by daddy. I mean how else can you even begin to defend the website without serious medication?

 

[Faeldawn]

There were loads of threads here about this from before the beta began, many DAoC players debated this over and over and the general consensus seemed to be initially very negative, but as time went on it seems most have decided to give GOA a clean slate for Warhammer.

A few were staunchly "Hell no", but most want to play on Euro servers in Euro time zones.

Personally I suffered as most did from the Prydwen crash fiasco, Right-Now fun and other such things over the last 6 years. But like most, im willing to forgive and forget and give them a fresh start. If anything typically "DAoC GOAish" happens after launch it might change my mind, but certainly I'm not fussed about anything before then.

 

[Taleth]

It is still very early days. If after a few months things are bad then I'll consider moving to the US - pretty unlikely though, largely for the population reasons mentioned above. I can't see WAR being a game you can get much out of solo.