Are Migrant workers responsible for the slump in UK markets and consumer spending?

[tris-]

I didnt even bother reading your post any further

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nice discussion.

ill just assume youre a moron then, its easier.

 

[Tiani]

nice discussion.

ill just assume youre a moron then, its easier.

fine by me, you assume I'm a moron if it makes you feel better, people like you are the entire problem with this country, dont give a shit about their own, only interested in everyone else (and more so the problem that these cocks are the ones in charge of the country)

To be fair I got more of a problem with the little sluts who get themselves knocked up at the age of 14 and have their life handed to them on a plate for the rest of their time but thats for another topic

 

[Azurus]

Let me tell you now I have a good job and I had about the same money when I was on the dole

You don't have a good job then.

I'm assuming you were born in the UK? Compared to these people you had all the breaks in life, access to a good education, free healthcare etc.

It pisses me off when people like you have such a sense of entitlement, if people want to come to this country and work tooth and nail to achieve the same lifestyle you have been born into, i say more power to them. Stop feeling so hard done by and grow the fuck up.

 

[Tiani]

and what!? Im sorry I feel I should be considered for housing before any tom dick or harry who decides to hop on a boat/plane and come here! How dare I seek accomodation in my native country. I had all the breaks in life ? I have worked dam hard to get to where I am now, I wont let you tell me 'i had all the breaksin life' its not my fault I live in england and dont come from a poor country. I dont give a shit about the plight of some bloke from Poland, I care about me, and my family.

I have access to a good education, so I fucking should! My parents and their parents and their parents before them worked their asses off and paid their taxes to pay for my good education, which wasnt that good might I add.

Free healthcare? See above! and also whats free about it ? paid for by the taxpayer ergo me. And you know what Id rather pay for it directly if I got a better level of care, as it is at the moment I could go hospital and come out with a worse condition! I have to pay also for my prescriptions, If I was a smack head though id get my meths for free -_-

And I do have a good job, but when you factor in rent, council tax, car tax, insurance, petrol, food, heating, electricity and everything else I have to pay out on a monthly basis it works out to about the same as picking up my dole money and paying out nothing.

I do feel hard done by and I wont stop, because as it seems to me at the moment is I was born here, I have lived here all my life and I have paid my dues except I'm not reeping the reward for it, Svetlana down the road in her nice 3 bed semi is!!

 

[tris-]

id be inclined to say that some problems are down to people such as tiern who say they dont care about integrity. therfore they dont mind being lazy and not working and wont try hard to achieve something decent. so by their own standards they are happy to sap dole money.
an immigrant does not do that, so which is worse? someone like tiern who doesnt care and would rather not do a job or an immigrant who does work.

 

[Tiani]

re read I do work and I dont condone people who just simply cant be arsed to get a job. I just feel that in my personal circumstances immigrants are a bigger problem to me than dole dossers.

Further to this do you seriously think every immigrant and asylum seeker that comes here goes out same day and gets a job ? Open your eyes coz when I was signing on the jobcentre was the same as everywhere else, packed full of foreigners.

 

[old.Tohtori]

re read I do work and I dont condone people who just simply cant be arsed to get a job. I just feel that in my personal circumstances immigrants are a bigger problem to me than dole dossers.

Further to this do you seriously think every immigrant and asylum seeker that comes here goes out same day and gets a job ? Open your eyes coz when I was signing on the jobcentre was the same as everywhere else, packed full of foreigners.

I might be mistaken, but jobcenters, atleast social services, are "packed with foreigners" mostly due to them needing to report stuff there more then local people(for local benefits!).

Not saying foreginers don't come for the free booze and loose women, and without some form of "this many foreigners compared to local people are unemployed" i won't judge on "who's ripping us off", just saying that the people who aren't citizens etc, have more business there then locals.

 

[Tiani]

When they are all queing up with their signing on cards, their housing benefit forms and their community care grant forms ? Sure

I think people are a nit naieve, most people who come here, come here for the free healthcare and easy access to money and accomodation, its a well known fact, id wager there are more non uk people claiming benefits than uk people claiming benefits coz they are too lazy to get a job.

 

[old.Tohtori]

When they are all queing up with their signing on cards, their housing benefit forms and their community care grant forms ? Sure

I think people are a nit naieve, most people who come here, come here for the free healthcare and easy access to money and accomodation, its a well known fact, id wager there are more non uk people claiming benefits than uk people claiming benefits coz they are too lazy to get a job.

Those, atleast in Finland, who work at a very low wage, get housing benefits(foreign or not) and help with rent and such.

Just saying that there might be other reasons then just "giv moneyz".

No need to get testy with me even if you are taking an attitude towards those against you, i was just saying.

Note your own "people on this forum" upper and please, practice/preach

 

[Tiani]

I wasnt getting testy with you, hence the and I am taking an attitude with people because on numerous occasions now I have posted something completely harmless and in no way insulting to anyone and have been shot down, had my intelligence questioned and insulted and been left feeling very angry, so now its time to shoot back.

the second paragraph isnt aimed at any individual in particular.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Fair enough, though i wish you'd take a moment to let my suggestion dig in.

Is it not possible that, due to reason or other(haven't studied immigration form needs), there might be more immigrants in these offices then "local" people?

Or at least, partly due to that.

 

[Tiani]

of course its a possibility but I still stand by my point

 

[Zede]

Tiani, the only reason the government allows in foreign nationals is because we have the jobs available, and quite simply, nobody is taking them.

You see, in the great scheme of things - even on the dole we have a luxurious life. You really dont know how good you have it. Even for these immigrants, taking say a low paid job in KFC/McDs is heaven. We have well kept roads, hospitals, you name it - we have the cream here in the UK, step back a second and think about what you actually have.

Your an unappreciative little shit. Right wing, Sun reading shit on a stick.

Tris, Shaggy, Az - your all dudes when we have to put up with synapse deficient anomolies like this wanker, makes you realise.

 

[Lamp]

We should all go out for a drink ! Can. You. Imagine.

Carnage

(We'd have to keep Laddey in a cage - for his own protection - and feed him lager through an intravenous drip)

 

[Ch3tan]

Please! There is no justifying this, I dont care what jobs they do, they cause problems, they dilute the English culture and they take up spaces that could be occupied by british people.

Can we go back to the 12 year old boys arguing please? This is painful.

You are very bitter Tiani, and you are not willing to accept anyone else's view, so why even bother continuing? Everypost you make in the face of common sense just makes you seem like more of a angry idiot.

 

[Raven]

coz there aint no

I stopped there

 

[Chronictank]

We should all go out for a drink ! Can. You. Imagine.

Carnage

I doubt it would be carnage. i find it hard to beleive people would be so aggressive to get their point across irl, although i am just as sarcastic.. and arrogant.. crap there goes my point :/

(We'd have to keep Laddey in a cage - for his own protection - and feed him lager through an intravenous drip)

he'd break all his teeth trying to knaw his way out

 

[Tiani]

Tiani, the only reason the government allows in foreign nationals is because we have the jobs available, and quite simply, nobody is taking them.

You see, in the great scheme of things - even on the dole we have a luxurious life. You really dont know how good you have it. Even for these immigrants, taking say a low paid job in KFC/McDs is heaven. We have well kept roads, hospitals, you name it - we have the cream here in the UK, step back a second and think about what you actually have.

Your an unappreciative little shit. Right wing, Sun reading shit on a stick.

Tris, Shaggy, Az - your all dudes when we have to put up with synapse deficient anomolies like this wanker, makes you realise.

I stopped reading this thread days ago but had to comment on this little turds post.

Your a fucking moron with a stick shoved so far up ur ass that its protruding from your mouth.

I am unappreicative ? whys that then ? coz I expect to get the things my family have worked for generations for. The roads are well kept ? life is luxury on the dole ? are u in the same country.

Moron, I have lived on the dole and its far from luxurious but whatever think what you like, after looking at your posts it seems all you like to do is belittle and insult people on these forums so I will play you at your own game and tell you your a fucking cock sucking little drivvel merchant with a small penis and even smaller brain, do me a favour, throw yourself of a building or something.

Synapse deficient ? I gonna start sympathising with all the immigrants then as that seems the cool thing to do. Fuck me and my family and everyone else as long as the polish are ok! No wonder England is so fucked with this level of prickage living here.

 

[Lamp]

LOL

FHOT - always guaranteed to attract the nutters

 

[Raven]

I rate this thread 4 top hats

 

[Sharma]

Reet, sorry lads i'm locking the thread since it seems things are going somewhat overboard.

So as for the thread, so long and thanks for all the fish.