Ardamel

[Amadon]

hmm

I think Ardamel did pretty well on Hlidskialf the first time (I went to sleep afterwards so didnt see the rest). He didn't have such huge numbers (guards said about 80), obviously had a lot of savages, and Hibs had quite a few mana mentalists and animists in Hlidskialf.

Him, and the Mids, surely did a much better job of defending their frontier than Albs do.

I don't think the whining about time is justified since it was never going to be a relic raid.

P.S. thanks for coming to play Mids

 

[acei]

lol @ Ardamel threatening hibbies with a early morning raid and lmao @ the other mids that threatened it too... Is that all Midgard has in them now they got LA-nerfed? Threats of taking a undefended relic? Is there any fun in doing that?

 

[ardamels]

Originally posted by acei
lol @ Ardamel threatening hibbies with a early morning raid and lmao @ the other mids that threatened it too... Is that all Midgard has in them now they got LA-nerfed? Threats of taking a undefended relic? Is there any fun in doing that?

No it aint fun doing that, but hibs are more and more going for the relic fort past midnight, I dont mind keep raids. It's just that hibs are discovering that they will have a hard time getting the pwr relic back on prime time and because of this they tend to start raiding when all mids have gone to bed. Thats what I dont like.

 

[ardamels]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
Someone takes the game waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to serious..
imo Ardamels you should go out and get laid, and have a drink with some RL friends.
ok ?

I do frequently for your informaton

 

[cerberos]

Originally posted by acei
lol @ Ardamel threatening hibbies with a early morning raid and lmao @ the other mids that threatened it too... Is that all Midgard has in them now they got LA-nerfed? Threats of taking a undefended relic? Is there any fun in doing that?

Didnt you just pull off a ninjaraid? talk about undefended? You did it primetime, but comeon take down all the doors like its ment to be done.

 

[ardamels]

Originally posted by -Nuked-
do you wana give hibs a list of which keeps we arnt allowed 2 attack coz it makes mids jumpy? .. we took bled the other day and within 20mins over 100mids were on the doors ... imo as a realm you need to calm down a bit, you know the current hibs wont take the relics after 00:00 so why get jumpy about it.

All keep takes are treated the same way Sometimes we have the numbers and sometimes we don't, like 2 am last night when you took Nottmoor with 62 ppl and we had about 25 all in all. After that the Emain ppl woke up and we got some backup but you were still outnumbering us with 2:1 at Arvakr. Keep defense is fun, I much appreciate fighting with good players like the hibs last night but it's realm defense and if we can get an advantage in numbers we will, as I'm sure you would aswell.

You say you wont go for relic past midnight, but since you frequently still do it, we dont believe you

 

[-Nuked-]

we take the keeps we dont go near the relics, only mids and albs do that shit atm. proud hibs play atm

edit: we do go near, we look but we dont touch

 

[Pandemic]

ok first of all u did attack the relic guards so whichever muppet posted saying u didnt is wrong.
4 keeps taken (note amadon 4 not 2). i assumed that this was a relic raid. not having a spy in hibernia i had no access to information telling me otherwise.
u had 62 people when u took nott which is more than enough to take a relic and u took a total of 4 keeps before u pulled the guards at the relic.

as for u suiciding well thats ur story. it could have just as easily been u using one of the new tactics posted on the vault that went badly wrong 4 u

i personally dont find it funny being kept up that late to defend against what i thought was a relic raid

posting that you can take the power relics if u wanted so easily at that time well yes of course you could have and as vulcan said many of u wanted to but thats my entire point how were we to know it wasnt a relic raid if u only decided after taking nott that it wasnt yourselves?

and as for you demonstrating ur uber for taking all these keeps with so few population when u attacked nott with 62 people we had only 40 ish lvl 50's who were non bb online so you heavily outnumbered us

i was very worried as when u so easily took the 4th keep which was defended with everyone we had online who would come it became very apparent that we did not have enough population online to stop you taking the relics

 

[Derianna]

Xan...

Imagine situation- u coming our frontier, taking 6 keeps.
I doubt u would not go for relic even it would be a 3am, u can always state then that Relic Raid have started at peek time and it is only our mids fault we didnt protect it well.
It have been done in past and actualy it is good excuse.

The other thing is that like Arda says, mids can do a shit against hibs protecting/atacking keep, unless we have acces to siege weapons (means the only keep we can protect succesfuly against 60 hibs is bled). U have seen that many times and it is nothing new. A lot of RMs/SMs are inactive, BDs using shity solo supp spec so we dont have nuking strength which is highly needed while siege`ing keep. Best example u had when u came lord at Arvakr at night, we went down in no time even we were few there.

We should not whine on each others becouse as we all know the game is 24/7 and one realm have better abilities in open ground fights (savages in mid) other while keep taking/defending (mana elds and chanters).

The good thing is that even we was dying like flies we have standed still and strong till early morning hours, so we proved our honour on battleground. Beaten is not the one who die a lot, but the one who leaves team on his own wish.
Hibs also prooved how good they are- i realy feel a lot of respect for u since u can hold high numbers 7 hours nonstop.
Some people care about realm and no matter what will come to protect it, u know that, u use that. All uses enemy merit and flows to get best what he can get :>

Btw. That pulling GG was realy funny :>

Regards,
Derianna Coldflame

PS. Cheer hibs :>

 

[-Nuked-]

Pandemic you really worry 2 much, if hibs wanted to alarm clock raid im sure it would have happened many many months ago, you dont have to stay up to guard relics it doesnt matter its just a game as for 62 people being enough to take a relic, it would be tight but i dont think we could have

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by Pandemic
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1) uh.. i meant a few, not a couple.. apologies

2) if you see the game as a burden, then don't play it.. really.. it's entertainment and shouldn't be taken beyond that

3) I don't think that you were justified in assuming it was a relic raid. Mid outnumbers Hib fairly significantly, if we do a relic raid, we have to get in and out pretty quickly, otherwise Mid will get more than enough defenders logged in at the relic keep to repel us. Hib has not taken a relic out of prime time, there is no precedent for you to assume that we will. Also 60 odd people is not really enough to take a relic unless all 7 keeps are down and there are very few defenders. If for some reason we were to try a serious relic raid with only 60 people we would not take keeps over a period of a few hours before hand - it would have to be done very quickly.

4) To allay your fears, the few people in Hibernia who have the support and ability to lead a successful relic raid are the ones who oppose off peak relic raids most vehemently.

 

[noaim]

So hibs had 60 people and those took 4 keeps and defended em?

Funny, albs bring 150+, takes 2 keeps, manages to defend 1 and comes here to brag about it.

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by noaim
So hibs had 60 people and those took 4 keeps and defended em?

Funny, albs bring 150+, takes 2 keeps, manages to defend 1 and comes here to brag about it.

Whereas Mids take Beno and get ready to pharm.

Albs pull back down the hill out of sight, count to 10 and charge.

End result=the mids (including Ardamel) dead at the front of the keep.

Albs pull back whilst Mids rezz...then charge again, and again.

Made 17k charging all the Mids that were hoping for a pharm session. Hope you do it again sometime

 

[Garbannoch Nox]

as said before it was never intended to be a relic raid - we didnt even want to take more than 1 keep initially - but the lack of mids made us take some more

one other thing: the raid started at 9ish - if you cba to take your keeps back then why shouldnt we go for the relic? - even if it's 2am. It's not like we set alarm clocks and take them at 4am without any pre-notice. You have been aware of the massive number of hibs in your frontier since we took hlidskialf - so dont whine that you had fewer people online than hibs at that time since we have to face this situation as well when you raid us on a sunday afternoon and outnumber us 3:1.

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by Garbannoch Nox
as said before it was never intended to be a relic raid - we didnt even want to take more than 1 keep initially - but the lack of mids made us take some more

one other thing: the raid started at 9ish - if you cba to take your keeps back then why shouldnt we go for the relic? - even if it's 2am. It's not like we set alarm clocks and take them at 4am without any pre-notice. You have been aware of the massive number of hibs in your frontier since we took hlidskialf - so dont whine that you had fewer people online than hibs at that time since we have to face this situation as well when you raid us on a sunday afternoon and outnumber us 3:1.

and with a justification like that to take relics at 2am against very few defenders and still call it primetime thats the reason i was worried

 

[Garbannoch Nox]

Originally posted by Pandemic
and with a justification like that to take relics at 2am against very few defenders and still call it primetime thats the reason i was worried

^

lol you surely only read what you want to read - no use discussing this with you...

 

[old.Nol]

I have no idea why you are claiming this raid was off peak. At 9:30 you knew we were attacking (would've been earlier except for a Galla Raid). When you arrived to retake, there were still 4fg high RR Mids running around Emain, besides the fact that you have so many more players then us.

Call me your conscience, but when Mids took the Strength Relics from Excaliber, I remember the ENTIRE argument for the time being lame, was the fact that you started the night before, and the 9am GMT raid was just the end time. You really do have a set of double standards.

With regards to the relic, it would have been easy to get even greater numbers to the raid if I announced that we were going for the relic. Mids eventually left emain to help you defend, but there were still Hibs there. The CBH alliance opted out of the raid because they new it was just a keep take. As we did with Arvakr, we could have just as easily knocked over the other 2 keeps.

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by old.Ramas
What time was it when the relics went out of interest? (also, note to mids, primetiume does not stop at 11pm UK time)

After we took Arvakr, hibs suicided(people running in the nude etc) on Grallahorn, so we could release and go to bed.

That was obviously a tricky aggressive relic strike, the plans of which can be found on the vnboards, filed under "MASSIVELY SUCCESSFULL NUDE RR IMO!". This cheeky attempt which was thwarted by the heroic midgard defense, deserves an incredibly well illustrated alarm clock raid, with maps to be posted later.

kthnxbye

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by Pandemic
and with a justification like that to take relics at 2am against very few defenders and still call it primetime thats the reason i was worried

Funny you should think like that, but that was Mids justification for the last Excaliber raid.

I can get the quotes and links of you want?

 

[[PS]Venom]

Christ! So many handbags flying around here.

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Pandemic
i personally dont find it funny being kept up that late to defend against what i thought was a relic raid

Perhaps you should type /quit if you dont like it. Its a game, not RL.

If you consider staying up for something which potentially can be a relic-raid you take the game too damn serious I think.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Derianna
A lot of RMs/SMs are inactive, BDs using shity solo supp spec so we dont have nuking strength which is highly needed while siege`ing keep.

Cry, cry, whine, whine. Seems like the Mid melee groups come back to bite you in the ass, don't they?

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by noaim
So hibs had 60 people and those took 4 keeps and defended em?

Funny, albs bring 150+, takes 2 keeps, manages to defend 1 and comes here to brag about it.

On the other hand, this could be because the Mids no longer show up in numbers. Last time we tried that trick, 80+ retook Arvakr and then nothing. Not even a Troll fart near Bledmeer. If you ask me, you're losing your touch.

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Originally posted by Belomar
On the other hand, this could be because the Mids no longer show up in numbers. Last time we tried that trick, 80+ retook Arvakr and then nothing. Not even a Troll fart near Bledmeer. If you ask me, you're losing your touch.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by ardamels
Obviously you don't, this is the tenth time this year you go for Grallarhorn (although this last one one wasn't serious in any way) past midnight. So tell me, what part of: "Stay the f*ck away from our relics past midnight" don't you understand? As you say, taking relics past 00.00 CET will effectively render hibs to lose all relics and that for a very long time so stop doing what you're doing. Every time you go for Grallarhorn past midnight you say, it wasn't a real relic raid, it had no prospect of succeeding. Well let me enlighten you of this: if mids go for hib relics past midnight, then its a certain success, so skip it. We know you're thinking of it, but hopefully your raid leaders have enough brain to see that mids will follow through if you do something like that.

it's more action in this game on this server around 1 am a monday morning then it is at 15-16 on a sunday.

imo.

 

[acei]

Originally posted by cerberos
Didnt you just pull off a ninjaraid? talk about undefended? You did it primetime, but comeon take down all the doors like its ment to be done.

9am /who = 60 albs
9pm Midgard = about 400+

You see the difference? You had a chance to defend, alarm clock raids give no chance to defend.

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by old.Nol
Funny you should think like that, but that was Mids justification for the last Excaliber raid.

I can get the quotes and links of you want?

feel free to post quotes and links from me justifying that nol cmon mate post it

from what all the hibs have posted it obvious u did it just to prove you can take our relics anytime you like off primetime which is not news to me

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by acei
9am /who = 60 albs
9pm Midgard = about 400+

You see the difference? You had a chance to defend, alarm clock raids give no chance to defend.

well a ninja raid gives the defenders only as much time as they realise a ninja raid is going on to defend 5mins ? mythic realised this is a cheat which is why is got nerfed in patch 1.64

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by Belomar
On the other hand, this could be because the Mids no longer show up in numbers. Last time we tried that trick, 80+ retook Arvakr and then nothing. Not even a Troll fart near Bledmeer. If you ask me, you're losing your touch.

I am not asking you tho.

And why go Bled to find 150 albs, when we all know you cant do shit from there anyways?

Imo its better to let you sit there, and get bored.

When you come in those numbers and attack a keep, we got enough people in frontier to defend relics pretty fast, and we immedieatly got scouts logged in in Mjollner...I really doubt you could take relics primetime if you touched keeps first, so you might aswell sit in Bledmeer.

 

[-Nuked-]

i think your reading what you wana read