aprox population in pryd after day 11 ?

Konah

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gifv 31337 pryd albs, we need the help!!11

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Requiel said in another thread that they are revving up a new marketing campaign in the UK to garner a lot more interest in Catacombs. GOA are hoping to boost the populations again, and it might just work.
 

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Aoln said:
logged in today and got ganked by 1fg mids on way to dock, was less than 8 albs actually rvring so quit and played camlann, wont be coming back to prydwen in a hurry ^_^


YES! u stay on Camlan u evulstunningshootforlotsofdamage scout :clap:
 

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Knowing the average daoc player, they will try the game, rush to level 60 in 4-5 weeks, then realize that to get the Uber Gear of Wtfpning they will need to do - daily - 3 hours long raids that are the bugged version of ToA trials, and drops less than the ceremonial bracer mobs in a bad day. As it's happening in the US, some will return with sheepish 'I miss rvr/bg/community/real dorfs' threads, some will get over it and adapt, others will switch to less stressful ways of spending time.

In my guild, those who wanted to go WoW are already gone since euro beta - some since US beta or live. I think we won't lose hundreds - but surely, I can't blame those tempted by the obvious choice between being steamrolled by zergs of high rr, welfared hibs and a fresh new game.
 

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The thing is Prydwen have around 1k ppl online at prime time. That is maybe 7-800 active players.

If only half of that population would RvR the server would be far from dead.

If 100ppl from each realm would be out RvRing we would complain about lag instead.

RvR and PvE must be made more fun for the average player. catacombs is a good step. 1.74 with the scroll drop changes is also a good step. Now make MLs doable by 1fg all steps except .10 and ML10!! And make them not take all evening.
 

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Everyone try and get out and make it a good'en before the tumble weed starts rolling in :p

Its shimmerweed, and found in Shimmer Ridge tbh!
 

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I have personally noticed a decrease in activity...keep takes rarley happen meaning people like me loose out on a valuble source or realm points and fun..nothing like killing 20/30 casters in a night catching them on the way to keeps.

Although keep takes are not my thing, they do promote a vibrant and healthly RvR end-game..No keep takes leads to stale RvR, and no one wants to end up around bled bride days on end. Appart from nottmor changing hands twice over the last two days (early hours of the morning) nothing is happening. :(
 

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conclusion = server is dead , now u log at 12 CET and u have nothing to do while in old emain always there was some action
 

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Xxcalibur said:
conclusion = server is dead , now u log at 12 CET and u have nothing to do while in old emain always there was some action
even OF could see a hib every 3 hours if not more and they never come back when dead ^^
but for mid it was another story had to camp mpk to farm them.. so many xD
 

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Keeps are way too hard to siege with low numbers, people get bored fast, reason why you see less and less keep activity now. Roaming groups are more fun, but you need an enemy to fight to be fun, else it's just tourism.

Problem is, prydwen population is small ... so half goes roaming, half goes to siege - but the second isn't big enough to accomplish something, so they get wiped quickly and log or go pve. The enemy zerg, having nothing else to do, logs ... roaming groups find the land deserted, and log ...
 

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maybe do a recruit-campain like hibs did ?... do some arranged xp-grps and so on ><
 

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well

Prydwen rvr isn't raelly bad atm.. but!, it is on a edge, if population will drop more, it will be empty...

(though u can get nice fg vs fg fights now:D
 

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Belomar said:
Requiel said in another thread that they are revving up a new marketing campaign in the UK to garner a lot more interest in Catacombs. GOA are hoping to boost the populations again, and it might just work.

was something similar 6 months or before that thread you mentioned... nothing happened, sadly.
 

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Aoln said:
logged in today and got ganked by 1fg mids on way to dock, was less than 8 albs actually rvring so quit and played camlann, wont be coming back to prydwen in a hurry ^_^


You cannot play your scout without a FG of Albs backing your up? xD
 

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vintervargen said:
move all chars from excal and prydwen -> camlann ty


Would give the old Camlann-crew a big disadvantage; not many of them are ML10; nor is it common to be loaded with arti's.

Also: I think quite a few of RvR-guilds will say 'Hey Middie FG our nemesis lets zerg down this mofo Camlann-crew' and run over it with twice the numbers or because of higher abilities/ML's/Arti's.

Also some people like to port to Domnann to train and visit a healer while repairing. I dont wanna run into a stack of shrooms every time I use a djinn tyvm
 

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With an even lower population than now, the only people RvRing will be guild groups and soloers. That's pretty much how it is already, even. But those people will possibly still be able to get a lot of enjoyment from the game. There won't be any zergs around to complicate things.

I still think WoW's appeal is likely to be temporary. If you check out what the US players are saying at the moment, it's mainly "There's nothing to do at level 60". People are already making threads like "I'm reactivating my CoH account" and citing lack of WoW endgame as the reason, which is both ironic and reassuring from a DAoC player's point of view.

I think archers should be nerfed to the point where only committed players want to play them. Saying this kinda thing has led to some of my friends disliking me in the past, but with so much of the player-base tied up playing solo, invisible characters, is it any wonder the frontier seems empty? Get those people back into mainstream grouping and the population will seem to rise immediately.
 

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But i got toa'ed chars on alb excal and hib prydwen.. so if they are gooing to merge the servers.......

I would lose some of em??
Now i would seriously get pissed off then:p
 

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Boggy said:
With an even lower population than now, the only people RvRing will be guild groups and soloers. That's pretty much how it is already, even. But those people will possibly still be able to get a lot of enjoyment from the game. There won't be any zergs around to complicate things.

I still think WoW's appeal is likely to be temporary. If you check out what the US players are saying at the moment, it's mainly "There's nothing to do at level 60". People are already making threads like "I'm reactivating my CoH account" and citing lack of WoW endgame as the reason, which is both ironic and reassuring from a DAoC player's point of view.

I think archers should be nerfed to the point where only committed players want to play them. Saying this kinda thing has led to some of my friends disliking me in the past, but with so much of the player-base tied up playing solo, invisible characters, is it any wonder the frontier seems empty? Get those people back into mainstream grouping and the population will seem to rise immediately.

aye, i was planning to buy wow, but canceld the order..
it's all the same.. just get some heads.. turn some switches on off.. and no pvp rewards or whatever.

Archers shouldn't be nerfed.
But there should be a better defense for arrows...

And yes, i did a /who Odin yesterday.. were 17 stealthers in odin.. and no normal players...

:x
 

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Aoln said:
logged in today and got ganked by 1fg mids on way to dock, was less than 8 albs actually rvring so quit and played camlann, wont be coming back to prydwen in a hurry ^_^

hehe, osril szwok forez liffine jammae and tiraine? :)

2 groups of 3, we were bored with nothing to kill so stood chatting a bit, you shot me despite there being 6 mids there (mean!) so we all ran over and killed you. ;)
 

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Primetime there's always 1,000+ players on Prydwen. If only 50-60 from each realm go out and RvR then we're basically looking at zergs. I also don't think the impact on the population is much to worry about. The majority of people who will jump to WoW are very vocal on these forums, but, in recent times, contribute nothing to the game or their realm. We won't notice or care too much about their absence, although from their posts it seems they would very much like us to care and believe the game will die without them (and we should all join them in WoW).

I think a lot of people will try WoW and come back, even before Catacombs. My own experience of the US and Euro betas of WoW convinces me that DAoC players will not find what they are looking for. It's a good game, but not good enough by far -- particularly considering the timescales and investment leading to its launch. It is better for the casual, less demanding, or less skilled player; I cannot deny that.

An overriding factor in the success or failure of a MMORPG is its community. DAoC is superior in this regard, and the WoW fanbois continued presence on these forums or IRC tells me that their attempts to transfer this community to WoW has been disappointing.
 

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Jimmae said:
you shot me despite there being 6 mids there (mean!) so we all ran over and killed you. ;)
But but but he is an overpowered scout, surely he should have been able to keel you in a group of 6 people and then disappear without a trace before the rest of you got to him! Now he got zerged instead, no fair! :mad:
 

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Belomar said:
But but but he is an overpowered scout, surely he should have been able to keel you in a group of 6 people and then disappear without a trace before the rest of you got to him! Now he got zerged instead, no fair! :mad:

had DI not been up he prob would have managed it too :clap: though i did think only 960 on the critshot was a bit weak. :wub:
 

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Jimmae said:
had DI not been up he prob would have managed it too :clap:
Yes he would, coz I wasnt going to heal, mwahahaha!!! :m00:
 

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You mean Liff actually has any heals on quickbars?

As if... :wub:
 

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AngelHeal said:
But i got toa'ed chars on alb excal and hib prydwen.. so if they are gooing to merge the servers.......

I would lose some of em??
Now i would seriously get pissed off then:p

heh, no you wont :p

you will face a 8 hour or more time limit (i would settle with 12 hour tbh:)) before able to switch to the other server (if not same realm on both servers, which is unlikely :p)

About archers, i wish all of them could fuck off to WoW and never come back (a few archers are not a big problem at all [think it was pretty ok without NF, add 15min to zephyr and it should have been ok... but since nf launch they are a pain... due to game mechanics and due to horrid number of theirs.
 

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Boggy said:
With an even lower population than now, the only people RvRing will be guild groups and soloers. That's pretty much how it is already, even. But those people will possibly still be able to get a lot of enjoyment from the game. There won't be any zergs around to complicate things.

I still think WoW's appeal is likely to be temporary. If you check out what the US players are saying at the moment, it's mainly "There's nothing to do at level 60". People are already making threads like "I'm reactivating my CoH account" and citing lack of WoW endgame as the reason, which is both ironic and reassuring from a DAoC player's point of view.

I think archers should be nerfed to the point where only committed players want to play them. Saying this kinda thing has led to some of my friends disliking me in the past, but with so much of the player-base tied up playing solo, invisible characters, is it any wonder the frontier seems empty? Get those people back into mainstream grouping and the population will seem to rise immediately.

WoW is missing the end game atm for sure, once Blizzard put it in (and they will...) then maybe WoW will be more than temporary? That seems to be the only real issue with the game atm, and I don't find that reassuring as far as DAOC goes. I do find it reassuring that going to play WoW is the right choice :eek:

As for Nerfing archers, without my Ranger I would've left the game completely long ago, getting 8 people together for long enough to do anything substantial became a nightmare, so I solo a lot, maybe groups of 5 would be better :eek:
 

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Dorin said:
About archers, i wish all of them could fuck off to WoW and never come back (a few archers are not a big problem at all [think it was pretty ok without NF, add 15min to zephyr and it should have been ok... but since nf launch they are a pain... due to game mechanics and due to horrid number of theirs.

I agree about the archer problem but it will only get worse as Mythic decided that a shield tanks will no longer be able to block any arrows anymore in the next US patch (I beleave the next blocking rate is 12% instead of 100%) which is completely wrong but I guess mythic wants all people to roll archers so they only need to balance 3 classes.
 

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Dorin said:
heh, no you wont :p

you will face a 8 hour or more time limit (i would settle with 12 hour tbh:)) before able to switch to the other server (if not same realm on both servers, which is unlikely :p)

About archers, i wish all of them could fuck off to WoW and never come back (a few archers are not a big problem at all [think it was pretty ok without NF, add 15min to zephyr and it should have been ok... but since nf launch they are a pain... due to game mechanics and due to horrid number of theirs.

well would still suck 4 me:X

I'm sharing my account with my brother, he plays alb excal, and i do hib prydwen.
So when I leave (4 work/school/sport orsmt) he goes.. but he can't play alb then for 8 hours??

and visa versa.
 

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d34k said:
The majority of people who will jump to WoW are very vocal on these forums, but, in recent times, contribute nothing to the game or their realm. We won't notice or care too much about their absence, although from their posts it seems they would very much like us to care and believe the game will die without them (and we should all join them in WoW).

I suspect these comments were made mainly from frustration. I am going to WoW and so are of lot of Wolves. I also know many other good people who are going. If you can find 2 Hibbies who think we don't do our bit for the realm, I'd be surprised.

I sincerely hope DAoC will not become unpleasant to play while people are away in WoW. I obviously hope it won't die. However, I also hope WoW endgame gets sorted and becomes a viable alternative. As lovers of RvR-style PvP, it can only be a good thing to see more decent games made along those lines.

My main concern - as is no doubt obvious by now given that I keep saying it - is that DAoC trend towards solo play will not be reversed. The reason I came back to DAoC after trying SWG was that SWG is very much solo-focused and I found I didn't like that at all.

You say DAoC's strength is it's community but how much of a community would we have now if the game had been like it is now from day 1? We'd just be a collection of soloers with buffbots and half of us would be never speaking to anyone ingame unless we needed help with an arti.
 

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