Appeal for "prime time" Raids!

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Novo

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Posted in all 3 realms! This is not an attack on one realm just an appeal to save one of the last Great challenges left in DAoC.

A Relic Raid USED to be one of the major challenges a realm had left in game (much like each Realms Dragon). Bringing the majority of a Realm together, in secret and staging an attack involved a lot of skill and in some case a little luck. Planning, marshalling, communication, leadership, timing and speed of execution all totally necessary for even a small chance of success.

To be part of a raid USED to be highly exciting and fully adrenal pumping experience. Just like the first week or so of RvR. Whether successful or not, it WAS a thing of pride for each realm to attack and try their skills against their enemy. For the defenders it also was a thing of pride to counter attack and try and defend against. When a Relic Raid is in progress, the alliance chat is filled with commands and reports, groups drop everything and suddenly the game comes alive for a few hours. A sense of loss if you fail or jubilation if you succeed, Fantastic stuff!

NOW it seems to me some people are trying to make one of the last great things of this game insignificant. There is no honour, skill, challenge or pride to set your alarm clock to 6am and attack a sleeping enemy. To justify it with weak replies of its 24/7 game or its WAR. Are passable excuses but even in WAR people are asked to act with decency and respect. Yes you can attack at 6am as it is a 24/7 game. But expect laughs and mild amusement at your pathetic attempt, highlighting the weakness of your realm and the lack of pride you have in it.

Relic’s are trophies that a realm can hold with pride, for meeting what WAS a significant challenge and a great form of FUN. Please don’t degrade it into an another insignificant and meaningless part of the game, as so much else has become. I what challenges to remain in the game, otherwise there is no point in playing.
 
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fenikske

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primetime scenario :
take 400 mids , 400 albs and 400 mids all level 40+ are online at primetime.
- Mids attack albion : 400 envaders & 400 defenders = massive lag + 50 % zonecrash
- 250 hibs trying to find out where the rest is and also comes to albion = ungodly lag + 100% chance of a zonecrash

whats the fun in this then I say?

DAOC is an 24/7 online game , if ya look strategicly you won't gonna do a relic raid that a) is in ungodly lag and b) has 2% chance of success

aldoh I work and I don't have any means to be online at night, non primetime relic raids are more advisable. That doesn't exclude that raids can be organized in primetime. If ya don't wanna loose your precious relic , make them fixed to the relic keep and sell tickets for visiting it :p

ps nice ideology doh , but on the other hand i don't lve in a fairy tale :p
 
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Whoodoo_RD

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The biggest prob now for daytime raids is that its not just the realm defence thats getting in the way, but the new uber guards too.

They are probably equal to 50 of any realm peeps, all purple con, insta respawn, major range and damage from the mage types.

So contending with them plus any defence that comes is a major pain in the arse.

Its ok for the US to have this problem, as they have the player base to deal with it, having seen the "US Style" pulling that goes on in Malmohus. But on the UK servers, we seriously lack the man power, even at peak hours.

The last Mid raid in daytime was performed by 8-9 FG of mids, met by only about 2-3 FG of albs, we got zerod before we even got rams up.

Midgard these days seems devoid of a lot of high level ppl, Malmohus is scarcely populated, we used to have 6FG there all the time, now your lucky to find 2. Getting realm defence is also getting harder, but we usually manage to pull it off at the last minute. The albs last daytime raid was a success due to the lack of mids.

Albion IMO is the only one of the 3 realms capable of doing what you suggest, their player base is a lot larger than both mid and hib, so they can always rely on there being more ppl about when needed.

Another problem mid has is its severe lack of cooperation. Guilds dont tend to mix with other guilds, we have great divides also between the top alliances. Aesirs Blade alliance (Former Cutting Egde) seems to be the only one willing to put its head on the block for the realm. But we are not huge in the numbers of high level players at any one time.

Get Mythic to nerf the guards, and daytime raids will be back on. Merge Prydwen to Excal too would help, as long as the realm become ballanced in numbers.
 
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fenikske

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Another problem mid has is its severe lack of cooperation. Guilds dont tend to mix with other guilds, we have great divides also between the top alliances. Aesirs Blade alliance (Former Cutting Egde) seems to be the only one willing to put its head on the block for the realm. But we are not huge in the numbers of high level players at any one time

If ya think thats the prob for mid only you are wrong. Some alb guilds don't even allow that their clerics / mincers etc team with a non guild group. And last week we lost 5 keeps and still the RvR active part of albion was on the transporters for going to emain. You can only wake up the alb RvR population for comming to help when their are allready x amount of rams on the doors ..... and then you get zonecrash :p

getting the same amount peoples in each realm isn't a option either because if you be honest some classes are much stronger then their other realm counterparts.....then you have to give all equal abils to the equal classes and that will ruin the game also
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD

Another problem mid has is its severe lack of cooperation. Guilds dont tend to mix with other guilds, we have great divides also between the top alliances. Aesirs Blade alliance (Former Cutting Egde) seems to be the only one willing to put its head on the block for the realm. But we are not huge in the numbers of high level players at any one time.

Yes cooperation with other guilds and alliances is a challenge in itself. Having said that I don't agree with AB-Alliance beeing the only alliance willing to put "its head on the block for the realm".
 
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Vell

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Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD
Another problem mid has is its severe lack of cooperation. Guilds dont tend to mix with other guilds, we have great divides also between the top alliances. Aesirs Blade alliance (Former Cutting Egde) seems to be the only one willing to put its head on the block for the realm.


I think that is a little unfair.

Yes, the AB alliance is by far the biggest, and the alliance most likely to muster up a large force quickly when the realm is threatened.

But to say that the other alliances are not willing to do this is rather narrowminded of you. Since getting my 50, I have done very little but run around the frontiers scouting/defending from invaders, with groups of people from our alliance, as have many of the people from the FLOM alliance.
 
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AbPoon

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Gimmi some points of contact for me and the other AB alliance officers for FOM and any other alliance and we'll sort the communication out.

I think Whoodoo came across a little wrong, the AB alliance has been doing alot of raiding but mainly because we are the only mid alliance able to muster 100+ people for raids and defence etc.

I dont think its due to a lack of effort on the other Alliance's parts.
 
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Whoodoo_RD

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edited this one cause im tired and talking rollox :D
 
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AbPoon

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The 6am wasnt my thing m8.

All respect to em for it but i couldnt be arse'd to sort something at that time :)

And yes we are the biggest alliance on Excaliber :)
 
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old.Stang

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It is supposed to be the biggest challenge but impossiple due the lag, 200 ppl or more in a massive battle and my screen freezed up...
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by AbPoon
Gimmi some points of contact for me and the other AB alliance officers for FOM and any other alliance and we'll sort the communication out.


Ardamel is the man you should seek :)
 
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ztyx

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:eek: what a joke

I say take the relics whenever you can.

A big gratz and thx to the middies getting the 2 power relics a few days ago! :clap:
 
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old.rauthian

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properly planed relic raids set up properly can be done at any time plz remember the old days when mids took time o plan a raid allways prime time it was only when albs then hibs started to do 2-5 am raids that mids said screw it if thats what thay want thats what thay get.
but i agree where is the skill in taking 100 ppl at 2 am on a raid there is no skill neeeded just numbers
 
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Tilda

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Originally posted by fenikske


If ya think thats the prob for mid only you are wrong. Some alb guilds don't even allow that their clerics / mincers etc team with a non guild group.


Which Alb guilds?
 

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