Apology to all concerned Tribers

[old.Morpheus]

Kittens, dear fellow,

I've had this nick for over ten years, nothing to do with the Matrix, check your sources.

Oh and I wasn't trying to be funny, I'm serious, perhaps your desire to represent yourself online is formed from a deep rooted need to be female, and perhaps elective surgery is the best course of action.

I can start a kitty if you want. We'll have a whip round.

Morph

 

[Mongrol]

Can I just take this opportunity to make a confession?

Here goes....

My real name isn`t Mongrol.

Yep, sorry to those who feel hurt by that but there ya go, its true, I`ve been lying to you all these years. I`m actually called something else.

 

[old.ruWank]

ffs

Can everyone just stfu about this pointless, repetitive subject. Like who gives a shit, if it turns him on being a women on irc let him sort out those issues. Stop esculating it. I just feeling very sorry for those poor dudes who actually believed it was a female and 'sucked up' to it. It, lol.

 

[old.Kittens]

The Truth

The endless line of flames tires me. The reason why I did what I did is here. From it, make your own judgement. If you can't see how it happened, then you are being unreasonable. I should have stopped it at an earlier stage, but hey, I'm stepping on my log now. Read it for yourself if you want to know 'the Truth'.


[19:28] < Sudsie > why you do it m8?
[19:28] < Kittens > ....
[19:28] < Kittens > are u gonna listen, or judge before i speak ?
[19:29] < Sudsie > listen
[19:29] < Kittens > ok
[19:29] < Kittens > when i was like, hmm, 15/16, i first got a modem
[19:29] < Kittens > and i went on Yahoo! chat
[19:29] < Kittens > I thought it would be funny to pretend to be a girl
[19:30] < Kittens > like, you know, everyone thinks all girls are perv bloked on yahoo ! anyway
[19:30] < Kittens > right ?
[19:30] < Sudsie > uhuh
[19:30] < Kittens > ok
[19:30] < Kittens > so, i did that for like a month, and got very bored
[19:30] < Kittens > anyway, when i was 18, one of my mates at school showed me Tribes
[19:31] < Kittens > i told him 'i'll never play that, the phone bill would be stupid, and it's probably shit'
[19:31] < Kittens > lol
[19:31] < Kittens > like i knew anything
[19:31] < Kittens > (just getting a cig)
[19:31] < Sudsie > k
[19:31] < Kittens > ok
[19:31] < Kittens > got it
[19:31] < Kittens > right
[19:31] < Kittens > so, i played starting in August last year
[19:32] < Kittens > and whenever people asked me why i was playing with such a faggy name as 'kittens', i told them 'cos i'm a girl'
[19:32] < Kittens > (this was all in-game chat, btw)
[19:32] < Kittens > also i loved the way they were so ashamed to be beaten by a girl, lol
[19:33] < Kittens > so, it gets to october, and i am now lpb at uni
[19:33] < Kittens > and i get pretty good at ld
[19:33] < Kittens > by this time, quite a few people on the bw ctf servers 'knew' i was a girl
[19:34] < Kittens > at this point, siefly asked me to join WTc
[19:34] < Kittens > to be honest, as sad as it sounds, i was like totally overwhelmed that someone could ask me
[19:34] < Kittens > and, i also knew a number of peeps thought i was a girl
[19:34] < Kittens > when he told me to come on irc, i was like 'wtf is irc?'
[19:34] < Kittens > (u still here?)
[19:35] < Sudsie > yup
[19:35] < Kittens > k
[19:35] < Kittens > ;p
[19:35] < Sudsie > just putting kettle on
[19:35] < Kittens > heh
[19:35] < Kittens > still believing my story?
[19:35] < Sudsie > yup
[19:35] < Sudsie > go on..
[19:35] < Kittens > thank god
[19:35] < Kittens > ok
[19:36] < Kittens > so, he (siefly) tells me to download mirc and go to irc.barrysworld.com
[19:36] < Kittens > so i do, and then to the #wtc channel
[19:36] < Kittens > he introduces me as a girl to all these peeps
[19:36] < Kittens > so i was like 'oh, shit, yeah. well, nevermind, it'll be a laff'
[19:37] < Kittens > before i know it, loads of people know me (obviously cos they heard i was a girl)
[19:37] < Kittens > and I was like 'hmmmmmm, can't really say anything anymore can i'
[19:37] < Kittens > cos if i did, i would lose all that i had suddenly gained - friends on irc, and mates to play tribes with on irc
[19:37] < Kittens > so, i just kept it up
[19:38] < Kittens > anyway, around christmas time/jan, my girlfriend got pregnant (oops)
[19:38] < Sudsie > where u get time for her if playing tribes so much ?
[19:38] < Kittens > and, the sad thing is, it wasn't even mine, cos we had never, er, done anything, if u know what i mean
[19:38] < Kittens > ...
[19:38] < Kittens > see above ^
[19:38] < Sudsie > k
[19:38] < Kittens > so, i was pretty shaken up
[19:39] < Kittens > basically, 'oh shit my g/f is pregnant, not my baby, wtf do i do, wtf do i do!??!'
[19:39] < Sudsie > dump her?
[19:39] < Sudsie > not yours,m so not yur problem
[19:39] < Kittens > so, seeing as i already 'knew' people on irc, who didn't know me in r/l and thus couldn't tell anyone i knew in r/l what was going on, i told xtro it was my baby
[19:39] < Kittens > lol
[19:40] < Kittens > suds, fine, not mine, but i am kinda sentimental in that i was in love with her, and don't believe in abortion
[19:40] < Sudsie > neither do i, but if she was my gf and got pregnant by someone else, she would walk.
[19:40] < Kittens > well, there we differ m8
[19:41] < Kittens > ok, anyway
[19:41] < Sudsie > I am older than you, so different outlook i suppose
[19:41] < Kittens > heh, i guess so
[19:41] < Kittens > remember i was just 19 by that stage
[19:41] < Kittens > (only 20 now, how old!)
[19:41] < Kittens > anyway
[19:42] < Kittens > so, as i say, i told xtro it was mine, to seek advice, and basically comfort, while not involving any of my r/l friends
[19:42] < Kittens > anyway, she had the abortion, and i left her because i can't stand to be with people who'd do that
[19:43] < Kittens > life was pretty normal from there
[19:43] < Kittens > i got to know people better on irc
[19:43] < Kittens > and, as you know people better, they ask more questions about you
[19:43] < Kittens > i saw no reason to lie about what i did, after all just a game, so i told them where i went to uni...
[19:43] < Kittens > what sports i did...
[19:43] < Kittens > what subject...
[19:43] < Kittens > etc
[19:44] < Kittens > which made it pretty easy for them to find out who i was, when they got suspicious
[19:44] < Kittens > and that, as they say, is that
[19:44] < Kittens > it all snowballed
[19:44] < Kittens > the more i wanted to tell people cos i knew them and liked them a lot, the more i knew i would lose if i did tell them
[19:45] < Kittens > some pretty fucked up shit, i think you'll agree
[19:45] < Sudsie > you have lost everything now
[19:45] < Kittens > i know that.
[19:45] < Kittens > but at least i got to enjoy my friends for as long as i did, right?
[19:45] < Kittens > telling the truth at any late stage would have had the same result
[19:46] < Kittens > the only thing that really guts me, is that they think everything i told them was lies
[19:46] < Kittens > when it was just one, admittedly rather huge, detail
[19:46] < Kittens > and that's my story, like
[19:46] < Kittens > weirder than most
[19:46] < Kittens > thing is, fortunately, my closest friends still talk to me
[19:47] < Kittens > so i didn't lose everything
[19:47] < Kittens > just almost everything
[19:47] < Kittens > so what do you think of me now?
[19:47] < Kittens > a twat?
[19:47] < Sudsie > well
[19:47] < Sudsie > naive
[19:47] < Sudsie > its quite sad
[19:47] < Kittens > sad as in 'gh3y' or as in boo hoo?
[19:48] < Kittens > i reckon boo hoo
[19:48] < Kittens > almost cried when everyone started hating me
[19:48] < Sudsie > sad as in - "Its a pity you didnt come clean a year ago"
[19:49] < Kittens > yep
[19:49] < Kittens > a fucking great shame
[19:49] < Kittens > i miss all the goddamn cl0wns
[19:50] < Sudsie > get a new nick
[19:50] < Kittens > i have
[19:50] < Sudsie > get rid of all scripts
[19:50] < Sudsie > and start again
[19:50] < Kittens > i have
[19:50] < Kittens > i have
[19:50] < Kittens > but i had to tell xtro
[19:50] < Sudsie > and leave irc for a long time
[19:50] < Sudsie > imho
[19:50] < Kittens > lol
[19:50] < Kittens > that defeats the whole point of seeing my m8s!
[19:50] < Sudsie > or use irc.dynamix.com
[19:50] < Sudsie > are they your m8s?
[19:51] < Kittens > they may not like me nemore, but i still like them
[19:52] < Sudsie > :/
[19:52] < Sudsie > no idea then
[19:53] < Kittens > yer
[19:53] < Kittens > i brought it on myself
[19:53] < Kittens > i should have told them
[19:53] < Kittens > i should never have lied in the first place
[19:53] < Kittens > 20:fookin:20 vision hindsight...
[19:54] *** Sudsie is now known as [ESN]Suds|OnAir
[19:54] < [ESN]Suds|OnAir >
[19:54] < [ESN]Suds|OnAir > well i gotta game to broadcast
[19:54] < Kittens > k
[19:54] < Kittens > thanks for listening, neway
[19:54] < Kittens > maybe you at least see i didn't do it to hurt neone
[19:59] < [ESN]Suds|OnAir > k


Well, that's it. I can't change whatever opinion you have of me, as that is all I can say. Make of it what you will, and stuff.

Kittens - Signing Off

 

[old.Stamper2]

THIS FORUM IS SHIT WHY CANT I REPLY

 

[old.Stamper2]

fucking shit boards, wrote a huge reply and it didnt post it, gayness.

Anyway(here we go again)

The laugh ain't on Kittens, it's on you FOOLS who believed he was female (c'mon it woz blatently obvious) and even went to the extent of licking his ass even more, putting him in ur quit msg's etc (you know you you are)

We knew kittens was male as soon as he left TD, thats why we think he never came back and talked to us coz we knew the TRUTH (plus ego's a cunt)

 

[old.Stamper2]

NEVER take ppl on irc for who they are. irc is only text, names, etc, it means NOTHING, its all a joke dont take it so serious, how the fuck can you hate someone on irc? Meet them irl then you can hate them, but until you meet someone irl then you can judge them. ask xtro about me meeting him at i2 for an example of it.

If i took irc at all seriously do you think I'd still be wondering around as Stamper?

Anyway, how can you ppl be so up kittens ass one minute coz she's a girl, but then as soon as the facts come out you slag him off totally, making out you want nothing to do about it.

 

[old.Stamper2]

FACE it your not pissed off that he lied, its coz you lot were such a bunch of fools you humiliated yourselves so much. Kittens is kittens male or female, same person who u have been talking to - does his/her sex really affect everything on irc??? i dont think so

i think its all a good laugh tbh, if kittnes was to msg me i'd treat him/her exactly the way i always have, as a normal person, so feel free to message me if u want.

imo kittens is blatently still in the tribes community as a well known player, but coz he is true to heart an alright type of bloke (even tho fucked up in the head) you can't see that this pyscomaniac sex starved transexual transvestite is actually a normal person, but ur all up for hating anything by the name of 'kittens' - or mebbe this is another thing that ego has hammered into me with his constant naggings about kittens

neway, i typed more earlier but cant be arsed typing it all a 2nd time.

all i can say to you lot is

I TOLD YOU SO

(rofl)

 

[old.Stamper2]

1 reply in 3 posts, stupid forum wouldnt lemme post it all

 

[old.[CL]Silver]

stamper....
for fucks sake, shut up....
blah blah blah...
blah blah blah...

silv

 

[old.Beyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoing!]

ROFLMAO!!! Nice one kitty m8, heh heh heh..... &=)

 

[old.Kittens]

Thanks, Stamper mate, nice to see someone has some perspective. I think I'll be messaging you soon from my uber-wellknown other nick

But seriously, you made some good points. My personality hasn't changed one bit, the only difference is I won't be using 'her' when I do IRC actions, and I won't be 'shakin' dat ass' to any more ch00nes.

Play you in Q3 again soon, matey. Not that you'll know

 

[old.Kittens]

And who the hell is Beyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoing! ?

Or is 'LargeQuicky' a groovy reference to 'BigSwifty'.

/me hmmmmmz

 

[old.Morpheus]

It's all about perspective.

I've been online since the late 80's, and in all that time the most important aspect of being online has been the human interation. I really, REALLY value the people I interact with, and over the years I've met many of them face to face.

Several have been, shall we say, an unexpected surprise in that they have no personality f2f, but excel when online. You can look at that two ways - 1. isn't it great that these normally shy people have a chance to develop when they're online or 2. all mouth, no trousers.

The majority of them are downright descent people, who I'm glad to know and call friends. Part of this must stem from who you personally chose to associate with - if you sit in crap, some of it will rub off on you - and ultimately you can't trust anyone online - but you can get a good idea about how they behave, and what they're likely to be like in real life.

So - I disagree in part with Stamper2 - irc maybe only text and names, but those words stir up emotion, and if you are the kind of person who feels emotion you can't help but feel appalled at how Kittens twisted things around. Now, I agree that Kitty-poos had no choice in the matter towards the end of this lie, and that it carried him along, but still - it's all about trust and honour.

 

[old.[BL]Kalandril]

Hi Kittens

I think its sad that everyone is so cut up about this!
Your not a C**t or a W***er you just did something different (No different than giving yourself a handle like Xtro, Morpheus or Kalandril)

I never bothered to delved into weather you where male or female I never really cared, to me you where always just a friend called Kittens on Tribes.

Where all just a bunch of sad individuals sitting at home for 7 hours a day playing a fantasy game on a computer which has no real goal to it!
We will never get rich or famous from playing Tribes, it will never help us on our Curriculum Vita and its not a very good chat up line!
so why get so worked up about other peoples Tribes life, your not going for premotion and I don't think its ruined your game.

Kittens I'm sorry to hear about you girlfriend but I think you needed to get advise from closer friends than a person typing from Guatemala,
and it maybe should have been left out of your Online story.

For me nothing has changed mate, I'll still hunt you down to kick your butt if I see you in a game.

(Final Thought)
Play for Fun not for Life.

 

[old.Tequn-Rijar]

Fog is outside.

Stamper2: "..fucking shit boards.."

a) do it better
b) be constructive: mark/copy text before posting


Kittens...
Kitty...

We didn't have contact since this came out.
I changed alot of words with Sean and -honesty- I had some weird thoughts in my mind for some hours.
As a member of CL, even one of the youngest ones, I think I'll write here what -I- felt.

I do not have a problem with what you did.

I mean - the people who have spoken with you, spoke with you - and if you would have been male or female... I am sure it would not have changed anything of what -you- wrote.

The people who spoke with Kittens spoke with 'her' a) because of what 'she' said, not because of what gender 'she' had. Means - if someone was flirting with her - understandable that they are pissed off now.

And this story with the abortion... Kittens, I hope for you that this was really true - because you have *NO* idea what such a thing means to a woman.

Talya
Tequn[CL]Rijar
Nanny of the [CL]0wns

 

[old.Alco2]

Hm, I think every topic, or reply that ive ever posted has caused someone grief (usually me), or annoyance, but after seeing this going on for however long, I decided to stick my (pretty uninformed) opinion in. Ok, first off, I like Xtro, hes a cool bloke on irc, always got a good word to say to most ppl, and got time for every1. Now I can understand how he would feel hurt by this. I have plenty of friends on the net, both male and female, even tho I dont go around looking for net friends.. therye just ppl I've met thru gaming.. and tbh if I found out that some of them had lied to me like this, I'd find it pretty hard to take myself (This isnt really a male/female issue, its about lying to those who u are closest to.. sure u take a risk of being lied to by anyone who u cant see face to face, but after a while, its easy to come to trust those u think u know..). I can also see where Kittens is coming from I think.. youve made a bunch of acquaintances, while (intentionally, or otherwise) posing as something youre not.. then they become friends.. now, theres a chance they may never find this lie out, so do u risk losing all your friends (and tbh theres a fair chance of losing a lot I think), or do u carry it on.. After a while, theres a point of no return, where itd be impossible for you to come clean about this, as too many ppl have become involved with/friendly with your other self.. So basically, it happens, and sure, ppl will be pissed for a bit, some rightly, some wrongly (lots probably cos they feel like prize geeks for trying to chat up/flirt with a geezer, lol). However, dont forget, lots of these peeps are youngsters, teenagers etc, so u cant really expect sympathy or understanding (Ok, I know this doesnt apply to everyone, but try hanging out in #bwtl for a while, and see just how mature most of em are )...
O.K... long post over, hmm, world still not brought to rights I guess, but anyway.. X, I feel sorry for u m8, seems youve been genuinely hurt thru this.. Kittens, feel sorry for u too m8, got caught up in a difficult lie, and I also feel sorry for anyone else whos suffered thro this (hm, guess I'm in a sorry mood). Look at it this way, in a few months time, not many ppl will remember any of this, therell be a new villain floating around the tribes scene for everyone to hound. Merry Christmas one and all, and goodwill to all men (and women)

Rich (Alco)

 

[old.J]

1. It's IRC. Read it, don't believe it.

2. Kitkat...no hard feelings...I could probably never understand your reasons, but hey..it doesn't bother me one bit d00d. Cya around. =P

Merry Christmas Euro Tribers!!!...can we please forget this now? Please?? Pwetty pwease??? =(

 

[old.Kattanga]

No need to include my name there J, im a 100% home grown genuine child of Xion!




/me gets back to other interesting stuff, ahh squeezing the fungal pores on the areas of me feet with athletes foot

 

[old.SPAM SemiGod]

Ah Kattanga, seasons greetings to you...

SG

 

[old.Kattanga]

Oh Dear

Regards

And have a very merry christmas, if u can spare some time away from the computer.

 

[old.Kittens]

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas to one and all! It's nice to see some festive spirit in the land of forums. To all those who understand and wouldn't mind seeing me - see ya round guys, wh00p yeah!

For those who don't want to see me round, wait until you find out my new nick, then type /ignore NewNick.

A joyous outcome for all.

Have a fun Christmas, I know I will

 

[old.[CL]Marky Boy]

Andrew.....thats ur name i beleive....

ive refrained from posting on this forum as at this moment in time after all the posts i no longer have any feelings on the matter but one last thing niggles me why dont you drop the "Kittens" nick and at least post as ur real name ie "Andrew" surely that would be the most honourable thing to doo without giving ur "new /nick" but in dooing so it still seems to me that you dont want to come clean about who you really are.


Enough shit has gone on now AFAIC

ohh and i hope you did have a good Xmas as i did with my wife kids in THE REAL WORLD


HP new year ALL [CL] Marky Boy

Actually not a Boy but a 32 year old guy with beer gut but NOOOOO beard....;o)

 

[old.Kittens]

Marky Boy, the only reason I post as 'Kittens' is because it's the only way that people know it is ME posting, and not someone who just registered having a laff.

I'm glad you had a nice Christmas in 'THE REAL WORLD'. I also had an excellent Christmas with my family, and a wonderful New Year with my girlfriend. So, er, gosh I feel small. I hope you feel that your Christmas was more fulfilling, but it wasn't. Mine kicked ass.

And what is with this pop psychology shit? HELLO?!?! I don't think I'm a girl, and I am a perfectly normal person, who has a right laugh and the only real important thing to me is 'THE REAL WORLD'. If I cared about IRC as much as you seem to, I would be a sad, sad person (no offence). I don't have some psychological problem, I have reiterated my reasons a million times, and if you think I have a problem, it is only because your miniscule brain cannot comprehend the truth (no offence).

Anyway, enough already. Happy New Year

 

[old.[CL]Marky Boy]

pop psychology ???????........right over my head that

As for me and IRC im sure you beeing a member ov the Tribes community and a former member ov CL you would know i spend very little time in IRC (no offence taken)

 

[old.Kittens]

Yeah, point taken Marky mate, sorry. Pop psychology is just short for 'popular psychology', for example, people 'analysing' what I did as if they have any idea - i.e. you saying that I am keeping the Kittens nick 'cos I am unwilling to admit my true self to people...

Or Morpheus with his 'maybe you do want to be a girl' lark. Anyway, I was just being spiteful because you implied that I had no idea what real life is. Trust me, mate, I know - which is why this whole pallava over something that is just a game is rather baffling to me...

Andy (for Marky's benefit)

 

[old.Morpheus]

I think Mister (or is it Miss) Pop Psychology needs a lesson in sarcasm.

I can start a kitty if you want. We'll have a whip round.

You're a bad man, and you did a bad thing.

 

[old.Kittens]

Oh Morpheus, Morpheus, Morpheus... what right have you to judge me, you who have never spoken to me in your entire life? You think you equal God in your right to judge me?

I think before you start judging anyone, you should realise that you have no idea what happened:

Quote: '...despite all the shenannegins that took place of which I only have one side of the story...'

You've already said you only have one side of the story. I wouldn't dare presume that you were a totally lifeless geek because you have actually had the nick 'Morpheus' for 'over ten years', and spend your time commenting on a subject about which you know nothing... that would be unfair.

Please do me the same courtesy.

Oh yeah, and who said I didn't understand sarcasm...

 

[old.Morpheus]

You're a bad lady-boy, stop scaring the kids.

Really, after all the apologies and all the rhetoric, you appear now to be saying "I did nothing wrong, I did nothing bad". Tsk.

 

[old.Kittens]

Please.... please! No more lady-boy comments! I can't take them, they hurt too much, oh how they hurt........

Oh yeah, and I'm not saying I didn't do anything wrong. I did. But what's the point in repeating it? You already read it about a hundred times. And another thing - all I'm doing is replying to flames from you here - and frankly, they have nothing to do with the issue whatsoever. 'Stop scaring the kids'??? Riiight....