Apologises to Hibernia

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Necroscope said:
rofl mids do a very nice PRIMETIME relic raid , and you do a middle of the night raid and come here and gloat... :worthy:

True; but look at this:

Mids sneak through Hall of Corrupt -- Marfach and sneak up onto Dagda with 140 peeps and have 140 Mids on Dagda and we didnt notice ANYTHING before the first guard went down.

Now thats sneaky; but well played

Now look at: 3-4 fg Hibs taking keeps 1 at a time; keep for keep and not a sole comes defend.

Who's fault is that?
 

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Rustan said:
Right back at you ..

Originally Posted by Mordur
can only /bow to such leetness and skills tbh!
friggin idiot

and then zapsi says
Well he didnt do it alone did he ?
I bet many guilds went to support him ( I had no clue )

That to me is continuing the Durgi flame and adding everyone that was on the rr to the list of idiots.

half empty or half full.. I guess you see what you want to.
 

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Rustan said:
Rofl, check the facts .. you did a nighttime raid :)
this is a good one : http://daoc-stats.com/Prydwen/

Depends how you define it the raid started when leaving odins for fensalir, that was about 22.30gmt according to that homepage, seeing as it took about half an hour to run to fensalir, kill the aggro underway and take the keep, and that was no more than 1 hour after we returned the 2 power relics to Dagda, so technically 1 hour for starting repairs etc on the RK, making sure the relics are safe etc isn't really bad. So it was really a chain of events that started with the mid RR and if you would have bothered to show up at 23pm gmt (or in the 15 minutes we took to destroy the gates and take the keep) when we took fensalir it would never have ended the way it did.
 

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Rustan said:
Rofl, check the facts .. you did a nighttime raid :)
this is a good one : http://daoc-stats.com/Prydwen/
I checked, look:
[00:00:03]
- »Hibernia«'s keep "Fensalir Faste" is now claimed by »Ascending Dawn«
- »Danish Huscarls« lose the control over "Fensalir Faste"
- »Hibernia« conquered the keep "Fensalir Faste" from »Midgard«
This is start of a raid, just after midnight =! night raid
We wait for Mids to show up but they don't, so we move onto the next keep.

[00:50:02]
- »Hibernia«'s keep "Arvakr Faste" is now claimed by »Na Fianna Dragun«
- »Wrath of Valhalla« lose the control over "Arvakr Faste"
- »Hibernia« conquered the keep "Arvakr Faste" from »Midgard«
50 minutes later, F I F T Y, and hardly any Mid tried retaking Fensalir
No defense again from Mids, we take several other keeps. Magic relic goes neutral:

[02:10:03]
- »Midgard Magic relic« is »neutral«

This is a DIRECT result of Mids not coming to retake Fensalir
30 minutes later we capture the relic.
Remaining people were bored and took Glenlock and Bledmeer.
Remaining people get bored and decide to move STR.
At around 4am both relics have left the STR relic keep.

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The raid started BEFORE midnight =! night raid. the ONLY, the SINGLE reason why Mids lost their relics, is because they were TOO LAZY to come and retake Fensalir faste at a PRIMETIME hour. So cut the whining crap and blame yourself for this one.
 

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Will the mids stop whinign about when the hibs took the rleics, weather they did it at 9pm gmt like us, or 3 am gmt it makes no difference, in the end of the day, Midgard should have had the people to repulse their efforts. and ALL credit and respect for the hibs bloody hard work, in achieving what they did. 1 am, we had the number to crush the hib threat before it even reached Grallarhorn, too few Mids answered the call to arm, I followed that hib crew round all night, and just about ever keep they entered had a small array of mines waiting for them. They were extremely we organised, lead, and disciplined in the manner they took our keeps. Midgard in comparison was a shambles, the defense cg broke out into an arguement over some people being powerleveled noobs and some not, over 50% of the cg didn't even know where the keeps the hibs were attack was so they stood around in svasud doing nothing, hoping the 1-2 fg albs camped outside woudl go away.

What was doen with the relics from my opinion was poor form from the hibs, the same thing was done on 3 US servers last year and the offending realm punished harshly for various stated reasons, only server that did same thing and got away with was mid/guin cause the mids there didn't interact with their enemies in any way, the physically placed the hib and alb power relic in Castle Myrdin personally, yes a bonus too albion?? not really, but they refused to ally themselves with albion, and left them no option as to if they wanetd relics. the other servers dropping things at pk's etc we're dealt with harshly.

But none of that detracts from the fact 33 mids were in emain as our keeps fell, and those who bothered to defend were appaulling at it.

Well played Hibernia, rest assured, this will not go unpunished ;)

D.
 

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Durgi said:
What was doen with the relics from my opinion was poor form from the hibs, the same thing was done on 3 US servers last year and the offending realm punished harshly for various stated reasons, only server that did same thing and got away with was mid/guin cause the mids there didn't interact with their enemies in any way, the physically placed the hib and alb power relic in Castle Myrdin personally, yes a bonus too albion?? not really, but they refused to ally themselves with albion, and left them no option as to if they wanetd relics. the other servers dropping things at pk's etc we're dealt with harshly.

Don't be too harsh on us Durgi, I am sure if we felt had even a chance of holding 6 relics for more than a few hours the situation would be different ;)

The fact that you had managed to sneak 140 Mids to our RK primetime was a big factor in that decision :p
 

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The whole thing in Mid (after repelling mids from Dagda) started with 3fg hibs that gathered up and took Fensalir, after which we sat for around 15-20 minutes, within that time, only 12-18 mids showed up to try retake Fensalir (defend their frontier?)

After waiting around some more, we went for Arvakr, hoping we could get more mids out to play. Nothing happened and the avalanche started to roll quickly.

You have yourself to blame mids, no matter what time it was.
 

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A small point (I was in bed and missed it), but the daoc-stats site gives times in CET. 00:00 CET = 11:00 GMT.

Darzil
 

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Tareregion said:
I checked, look:
[00:00:03]
- »Hibernia«'s keep "Fensalir Faste" is now claimed by »Ascending Dawn«
- »Danish Huscarls« lose the control over "Fensalir Faste"
- »Hibernia« conquered the keep "Fensalir Faste" from »Midgard«
This is start of a raid, just after midnight =! night raid
We wait for Mids to show up but they don't, so we move onto the next keep.

[00:50:02]
- »Hibernia«'s keep "Arvakr Faste" is now claimed by »Na Fianna Dragun«
- »Wrath of Valhalla« lose the control over "Arvakr Faste"
- »Hibernia« conquered the keep "Arvakr Faste" from »Midgard«
50 minutes later, F I F T Y, and hardly any Mid tried retaking Fensalir
No defense again from Mids, we take several other keeps. Magic relic goes neutral:

[02:10:03]
- »Midgard Magic relic« is »neutral«

This is a DIRECT result of Mids not coming to retake Fensalir
30 minutes later we capture the relic.
Remaining people were bored and took Glenlock and Bledmeer.
Remaining people get bored and decide to move STR.
At around 4am both relics have left the STR relic keep.

-----------------------------------
The raid started BEFORE midnight =! night raid. the ONLY, the SINGLE reason why Mids lost their relics, is because they were TOO LAZY to come and retake Fensalir faste at a PRIMETIME hour. So cut the whining crap and blame yourself for this one.


00:00:03 a tuesday night is hardly primetime, half of my GG logs an hour before that. Primetime is mostly around 18-23 imo. Ofc there´s lazy bastards like that stays up all night, but most actually log around 23-00 CET. Depending on timezone etc.
 

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Azurat said:
00:00:03 a tuesday night is hardly primetime, half of my GG logs an hour before that. Primetime is mostly around 18-23 imo. Ofc there´s lazy bastards like that stays up all night, but most actually log around 23-00 CET. Depending on timezone etc.

ok then let me get this right then

so.. if someone attacks at say 18.00 cet i can say it not prime time as i on bst which is behind that?

Basically. people live in different time zones, they work different hours so may not be able to play in you primetime. They may need less sleep then you so can play till later etc. Just because your not up dont mean hundreds of others arent on. besides a war doesnt stop when one side goes "sorry tired mate. can we continue tomorrow!?"
 

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Uhm

Azurat said:
00:00:03 a tuesday night is hardly primetime, half of my GG logs an hour before that. Primetime is mostly around 18-23 imo. Ofc there´s lazy bastards like that stays up all night, but most actually log around 23-00 CET. Depending on timezone etc.

Aye i'm a lazy bastard who actually works 12 hours a day, play 6 hours (when he plays) and sleep other 6 hours (or less nm that), caught the idea? now stfu pls ^^
 

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In a war, most people are taken from there jobbs just to supply the army, and not have to go to sleep just cause they have to be up in the morning.

In this game, people go to sleep cause they have to work. Not me but i know a lot has to.

And i wasn´t saying that he couldn´t raid, just that it´s hardly primetime.
 

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Gahn said:
Aye i'm a lazy bastard who actually works 12 hours a day, play 6 hours (when he plays) and sleep other 6 hours (or less nm that), caught the idea? now stfu pls ^^

Well i´m a lazy bastard, i even missed me after like.
 

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Azurat said:
00:00:03 a tuesday night is hardly primetime, half of my GG logs an hour before that. Primetime is mostly around 18-23 imo. Ofc there´s lazy bastards like that stays up all night, but most actually log around 23-00 CET. Depending on timezone etc.
My GG logs around 1am CET mostly, even though there are often still plenty of enemies around. Does that mean it's not primetime for me? ^^
 

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Tareregion said:
hibs raided on primetime, i swear m8s, seriosulsy, i belive it was primetime, thx all


rofl, you actually belive that crap you just wrote? :eek:
 

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im fine with 0% melee, overpowered n all.


lets hope albs dare go out more with fg rps now tho:m00:
 

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Mordur said:
i was comparing the size of durgi's ego to the size of germany, not the size of both's egos ... sorry to any germans that misconcepted this and got offended, was not the idea.

Ah, ok. I missunderstood this. But the USA are much bigger then Germany too. :wub:

And no, I was not offended, just wanted to say so. :D
 

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Durgi said:
But none of that detracts from the fact 33 mids were in emain as our keeps fell, and those who bothered to defend were appaulling at it.


That's pretty bad tbh ^^. I noticed when we took Crim from Albs pretty late that Mids were in emain. That doesn't happen on Hib at all.
 

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Mid have only selfs to blame for worst relic defense I've ever seen. Dunno why, it's mids problem...guess guild politics, too busy lvl'ing artifacts etc.

Forty mids did come out to retake keeps, but died and never bothered coming back. That don't say much.

Whine on ur own forums about why u lost relics instead of boo hoo'ing cos raid happened late on a school night. ;)

Mael, 50th ment.
 

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Tareregion said:
flame attempts not rly working, are they? xD

your attempt too explain hib raid was primetime wasnt rly working either eh? ;d
 

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remi said:
your attempt too explain hib raid was primetime wasnt rly working either eh? ;d

The difference is, which seems to be a hard to grasp concept:

Was the relicraid primetime? Nope; it wasnt. I admit that.

BUT was there chance of defense? Well.. thats what Tare is really saying: It took Hibs quite a while to make the preparation for the (upcoming) relic-raid.

There where enough opportunities for the Mids to stop the upcoming attempt. They didnt. Instead they went venturing in Emain exactly doing what?

Contrary to your prime-time raid where you sneaked 90% of the force through Marfach there wasnt a chance to defend really when the first relic went down.

Mids had a chance to defend; plain and easy. They didnt do that, why? I dunno; ask perhaps those 33 Mids in Emain xD
 

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Puppet said:
Was the relicraid primetime? Nope; it wasnt. I admit that.
bla bla~~


and another hib trying too justify thier primetime raid , ZZzzzzz
 

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