Motoring Any car nerds following the Detroit show?

[DaGaffer]

There are some remarkable cars on display from normally boring as hell manufacturers this year:

Kia. 300bhp - cheaper than a GT86. Kia!


A Lexus that goes BMW M4 chasing. 500bhp, none of that hybrid nonsense.


A four door version of this will be the next Volvo XC-90. Being a parent may not mean my motoring life is over after all.

A Cadillac. They'd actually be able to sell this in Europe.


This is a Toyota. Its probably the new Supra. Its like their designers have started dropping acid or something.

 

[Chilly]

That Toyota is cool.

 

[Tom]

The Kia will never be produced. There's no room for an engine at the front, which means it'll have to be in the middle or the back. Which instantly makes it a 2-seater coupe with limited market appeal. Face it, would you buy a 2-seater Kia, or a 2-seater Porsche?

 

[Chilly]

Or four 2 seater Kia's?

 

[DaGaffer]

The Kia will never be produced. There's no room for an engine at the front, which means it'll have to be in the middle or the back. Which instantly makes it a 2-seater coupe with limited market appeal. Face it, would you buy a 2-seater Kia, or a 2-seater Porsche?

The Kia is actually a runner. Its a 2+2 they reckon they could get on the market in less than two years (the main engineering change is the headlights wouldn't be legal in the US). And the main point is they're touting it as costing less than the Toyota GT86/Subaru BRZ twins, so the Porsche comparison isn't relevant

Most of the car is production viable, apart from the stacked LED headlights, which are too low for US regulations, while the viability of the see-through A-pillars hasn’t been evaluated either. Yet it’s not a pipedream or crazy concept. ‘We always imagine it [a concept] on the street,’ says Kia president, Peter Schreyer, ‘and that’s the same with this car’.

Because its RWD I assume the engine is flipped on its side to achieve the low bonnet line. The guts of the car will probably be based on this:

 

[Olgaline]

The Kia is actually a runner. Its a 2+2 they reckon they could get on the market in less than two years (the main engineering change is the headlights wouldn't be legal in the US). And the main point is they're touting it as costing less than the Toyota GT86/Subaru BRZ twins, so the Porsche comparison isn't relevant

That Kia looks an awfull lot like a pimped out version of the theyundai Veloster to me.

 

[Olgaline]

Hyundai Veloster even - which, incidentally is a silly car btw

 

[TdC]

I actually kind of warmed to that Kia. I never thought that would happen. My MUM drives a Kia ffs

 

[Olgaline]

There are some remarkable cars on display from normally boring as hell manufacturers this year:

What are your thoughts on this?

 

[Olgaline]

Hyundai Veloster even - which, incidentally is a silly car btw

Yes, we all know how you love your cheap plastics

 

[DaGaffer]

What are your thoughts on this?

It's an inoffensive mid size saloon. It's alright for a Chrysler (certainly the interior is an improvement on the normal Chrysler shitbox quality) but I don't know why anyone in Europe would be interested.

 

[Olgaline]

It's an inoffensive mid size saloon. It's alright for a Chrysler (certainly the interior is an improvement on the normal Chrysler shitbox quality) but I don't know why anyone in Europe would be interested.

I kinda like the 300c though - Yes, it's a guilty pleasure (5,7 Hemi or 6.1 SRT ofcause )