Anti Radar WORKING on US.

[MesS°]

2000 have downloaded the program last month. lets say those 500 that got the ban now is all of those, lets say 50% of the US people also stoped using radar.
So that would mean that it is about 1000 US people downloaded this program.
then it is 1000 EU ?
diveded by server numbers we are looking at 80-150 new radar users on excalibur last month

I feel the numbers are very hyped, lets face it ppl who needs to cheat in games are probally not the brightest of the lot several of them have probally DLed the same proggy more than once because they couldnt find the "I_PWN" button... Most of the cheaters are actually claiming they use radar to navigate in PvE, wich might be abit hard to belive if they have ever played a toon higher than lvl24 (damn humberton ants)... But if even half of them are telling the truth that leaves even less ppl actually Radaring agains you...

1 is still 1 to many tho...

Hang them all, i say!

 

[Aloca]

dout that all of the ppl downloading Radar continue using it tho.
and dont think mythic has banned all ppl using radar but many.
and crap players are still crap even if they use radars,
well exept maybe leaching radar cabbys and mofos like that...

Still it is ATLEAST 20 new radar users

 

[Aussie]

the maker of Xunleashed said he's still playing , he didn't get caught the first time nor the second time, she still claims it is impossible to detect it. those who got caught are cheaters who did something wrong i.e. activated some option combined with an unstable computer and daoc crashed. Those got caught. Many are still using it.

 

[Gordonax]

the maker of Xunleashed said he's still playing , he didn't get caught the first time nor the second time, she still claims it is impossible to detect it. those who got caught are cheaters who did something wrong i.e. activated some option combined with an unstable computer and daoc crashed. Those got caught. Many are still using it.

At $24.95 per person, he's not going to say "sorry, you're all going to get banned" is he?

 

[Gorrion]

Great new's indeed, althoug players should be banned permanently when cought 1st time, cheater noob's dont belong in daoc anyway, even with several 100's accounts or even 1000's banned, the game will be a much better for the remaining.

 

[Xplo]

Think GOA need to translate the anti-cheat program to french first before the frogs know how to use it.

 

[Ilienwyn]

Think GOA need to translate the anti-cheat program to french first before the frogs know how to use it.

Hahaha, good one tbh :worthy:

 

[HerculesPluto]

name and shame on main site imo

 

[behatch]

Nice to see that they acually made some think to counter radar that works

Question remains,how long for? )

I'd say a month and you'll say another release,unless the developers cba xD

itsa sad but its true i reckon anyway..

 

[Konah]

What player do hes problem , not the guilds problem.

not if he/she is driving your group and u know (or suspect) they are using radar, no.

there's good drivers and there's unreal drivers... very easy to tell the difference.

 

[Whisperess]

As long as it's 100% fool proof not to flag someone not using radar as a radar user, this is very good news.

Remember being banned from a CS server for "Lambert" something.

Turns out I was banned for background rendering a model in 3d Studio Max using lambert shading while playing... ( you would even flag as using "Lambert" if your login name for Windows was Lambert - etc ).

Just make it 100% fool proof that one flagged as a cheater actually cheats and all is well

 

[Talifer]

Trouble is by the time GOA get NF running in Europe, the writers of these radar programs will probably have been able to mask their presence from the new checker code and it will never work in Europe, that would be sad indeed.

Talifer

 

[cougar]

zoyster, you play easymode. most classes etc, it's so easy you dont even need radar in alb

 

[behatch]

Trouble is by the time GOA get NF running in Europe, the writers of these radar programs will probably have been able to mask their presence from the new checker code and it will never work in Europe, that would be sad indeed.

Talifer

I'd say you pretty much got it in that post

One more advantage off being on non american servers

I doubt very much they will stop radar,maybe he will have to rewrite the code? BUT,why? the game is decaying rapidly..but then again i wonder how much moneh the fuckers got out off it

 

[Clipse]

lol Cougar wrong thread I agree, nerf Albion. u have radar and 28 boofs, we have AD/FC/NO

 

[Cerberos]

Lets pray to our temple of daoc in France that they just insta-radarcheck without any warning and do a fullscale sweep. Should make the differance.

Who says that aint? Where does it say that the new radarcheck only works with NF?

 

[cougar]

Who says that aint? Where does it say that the new radarcheck only works with NF?

noone afaik

 

[etcetra]

Sigh, a 7 day ban for cheating. uke:

Its the same as allowing cheats..

 

[MesS°]

Sigh, a 7 day ban for cheating. uke:

Its the same as allowing cheats..

Its only been said 9823749823749 times before lets try again...
Its all about the money, if ppl get a warning they "can" continue to play/pay after they return from the ban period. Those that didnt stop cheating after the warning got banned4life...

Im sure many who cheat didnt get banned because Mythic wants them to cut the radaring on there own, again to save subs... They have been registred, as an exsample second round of bannings included ppl who cheated before NF...

Its no where near what i wish for the cheaters but it will do...

Hopefully next step is removal of rps/7day ban as warning...

 

[cougar]

Its all about the money, if ppl get a warning they "can" continue to play/pay after they return from the ban period.

No, it's not all about money but maybe they dont want permaban as first option in case they might be wrong sometimes, we have really no idea how the radardetection works. One guess is with the crashreports tho.. A game who has reputation to be cheatfree attracts ALOT of players. This money-company whine is so boring and clueless.

 

[MesS°]

No, it's not all about money but maybe they dont want permaban as first option in case they might be wrong sometimes, we have really no idea how the radardetection works. One guess is with the crashreports tho.. A game who has reputation to be cheatfree attracts ALOT of players. This money-company whine is so boring and clueless.

What are you on Cougar? if it wasent about the keeping the subs why dont they just ban everyone they believe are cheating?
They dont have to explain anything they can do with the accounts as they please, u accepted that when u started playing...

I agree with your point about cheatfree games. But it will allways be about the money. And im not saying thats a bad thing...

 

[Tay]

Apparently, the maker of the commercial radar program said he altered it to stop mythic from detecting it ...

this was before this latest round of bannings (which included a whole load of people using this commercial program)

The GNU license one states that it is able to detect when Mythic sniff for cheats, if they know this then they will know how to get around it.

The last I heard from a friend in the know yesterday was that certain trials were being undertaken on the Euro servers, he was not awe of whether this would result in bannings or anything.

 

[MesS°]

The last I heard from a friend in the know yesterday was that certain trials were being undertaken on the Euro servers, he was not awe of whether this would result in bannings or anything.

LET IT BE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tay]

I totally agree with the reset to zero on RPs. That way we can all see who the offending people are. I am all for the name and shame. But, without proper proof all we get on FH is slander and hearsay. If the big difference comes from the mouths of Mythic and GOA, nobody who gets reset or banned can cray about it and call them liars. As i don't do RvR very often i do not see what the radar user can do. Although, i have been in groups from time to time where we get attacked from behind (5 times in a row from the same guild seems a bit dodgy). So, anything that makes these abusers leave the game with their tails between their legs is a good thing. Cant wait til they start over here and see all the "bye bye, leaving game cos i had enough" threads going up !!

Well done Mythic and GOA. :worthy:

Its only slander if its not true

tbh go have a look at the screenies, its feckin horrendous what they can see and do

 

[cougar]

What are you on Cougar? if it wasent about the keeping the subs why dont they just ban everyone they believe are cheating?
They dont have to explain anything they can do with the accounts as they please, u accepted that when u started playing...

I agree with your point about cheatfree games. But it will allways be about the money. And im not saying thats a bad thing...

IF they had enough info for 1000 accounts perm-banning, they would still not lose cash from it, only goa-europe got 160 000 active accounts. And banning cheaters is a really good PR. But, you dont wanna ban thos you aint certain about.

 

[Tay]

As long as it's 100% fool proof not to flag someone not using radar as a radar user, this is very good news.

Remember being banned from a CS server for "Lambert" something.

Turns out I was banned for background rendering a model in 3d Studio Max using lambert shading while playing... ( you would even flag as using "Lambert" if your login name for Windows was Lambert - etc ).

Just make it 100% fool proof that one flagged as a cheater actually cheats and all is well

If I recall it was to do with Punkbuster, you must have been running the client for it to have detected you, Lambert was used to light up badly lit areas thus causing you to have an advantage.

It was a administrator type thing, they choose to use it or not, it was not an issue with the software, Names were flagged as inappropriate if they were on a bad word list, and guild tag registration was made mandatory towards the end of Punkbuster..

Even PB was not 100%, as I have stated several times before no method is 100%, its a question of undeniable guilt...

 

[MesS°]

IF they had enough info for 1000 accounts perm-banning, they would still not lose cash from it, only goa-europe got 160 000 active accounts. And banning cheaters is a really good PR. But, you dont wanna ban thos you aint certain about.

Why wouldnt they loose money from banning 1000 subs? ofc they would, a few might reroll and many new would come, but they would still loose the majority of the 1000 subs banned... It looks to me like they are letting ppl know they can see it, to stop them. And that way keep the excheaters subs and get the new once for beeing "cheatfree"...

Anyways this wont get sorted untill Mythic gives a press release wich explaions it, this is all speculations...

 

[Tay]

No, it's not all about money but maybe they dont want permaban as first option in case they might be wrong sometimes, we have really no idea how the radardetection works. One guess is with the crashreports tho.. A game who has reputation to be cheatfree attracts ALOT of players. This money-company whine is so boring and clueless.

erm, if you have inside information about what drives Mythic then please tell us..

The money whine is a sound one and in the absence of ANYTHING to the contrary its the best we have.

Granted the money idea is speculation, but no more clueless than claiming capping buffs to avoid grapple is not cheating somebody said that once.

 

[MesS°]

erm, if you have inside information about what drives Mythic then please tell us..

The money whine is a sound one and in the absence of ANYTHING to the contrary its the best we have.

Granted the money idea is speculation, but no more clueless than claiming capping buffs to avoid grapple is not cheating somebody said that once.

Ouch!

 

[Tootz]

What some people, and GOA/Mythic have to realise, is that cheaters aren't the only ones paying their subs. The past few months things have been getting much worse imo with regard to the number of suspected radar groups roaming the frontiers. The news of these bans and the new checks GOA/Mythic are using is welcome, but I'm afraid that a 7 day ban just doesn't cut it with me - especially because these people are never named and shamed and so after their "7 day holiday" they can just come back and continue as normal with nobody any wiser that they've been cheating all this time.

If I don't start seeing some more serious punishments given out, and if these checks don't make it over to Europe in the next few months (or with NF at the latest), then I'm going to have to give serious consideration as to whether I want to renew my account or not. At the minute, GOA/Mythic are trying to have their cake and eat it, and if they're not careful, its gonna start going moldy real fast and they'll be left with servers full of ex-radar users because all the honest players will have gotten fed up, and switched to EQ2/WoW.