Anti-Cheat Software now on BarrysWorld CS publics

[natrat]

See topic - we've rolled out some anti-cheat software on all our public CS servers. While not getting every cheat, it gets a lot of them, and ANYBODY caught on it will be added to the perm ban file, no exceptions.

At the moment it is up as a trial only (although all caught will still be banned) and it will be updated to catch the latest cheats as they come up. So even if you can get around it right now, you won't forever, and is it worth the risk to you? It's trivial for us to update (less effort than it takes you to change wonid) so think twice eh?

You may notice a bit of spiking on the public CS servers - this is a side effect of the anti-cheat software and hopefully will be resolved soon.

cheers,
natrat

 

[Will]

Nice one - If you get it running all nice and stable, that's the important thing.

 

[Wij]

Oooh, and no details. Is this new secret stuff ?

/edit: ah, i read the other thread

 

[old.mraargh]

Hooray

I just wanted to say I am rejoicing in this decision.
Also, when not adminning it might mean I will get the odd game without having to make my tired fingers type yet another 'record demo'.....

 

[old.jobbie]

yes, tremendous

i played last night and saw 4 people kicked for cheating, 1 of them was a regular too.

can we not have a forum post to name and shame all the sad gimps banned,

only hope Nat can sort the lag out, instead of the normal everyone cheats last night all i heard was lag, lag, lag, bah some ppl are just never happy

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

Is a little concerned, knowing nothing about the programs u r using and how accurate they are, the "ANYBODY caught on it will be added to the perm ban file, no exceptions" sounds a bit scary based on a decision made by a newly installed and I'm guessing relatively untested program. The reason 4 my concern mebe in part due to having trouble yesterday when trying to connect to a couple of the CS servers, on my first attempt it would tell me I was banned from the server but on a second attempt at the same server I would get in and be fine apart from the red blobs floating accross my net_graph 1, so I got in and played and I didn't give it a second thought until now, and as I am pure as the driven snow apart from config.cfg tweeks I would be interested to know if I have been falsely added to one of ur computer generated death lists ?? :sleeping:

 

[Stazbumpa]

I think its absolutely hilarious. Me and a couple of clan mates were on last night and the amount of players, with their CLAN TAGS I might add, that got kicked was mind boggling. Puts paid to the theory that cheaters are in the minority.

Thank you Barrysworld, its about bloody time.

 

[old.Hooligun]

Some feedback.

1. BW are to be applauded for trying out something to catch
the cheaters.

2. The lag needs to be sorted out. If it can't
I would say take it off, I'd rather play with cheaters on
a smooth (as a modem will allow) server than the laggy
stuff I had yesterday on the Dual Duster.

3. The same server (Dual Duster) crashed between
every new map. Not as bad as the lag (I can live
with it even if I always miss the pistol round getting
back in).

4. Can you point me in the direction of how the stuff works ?
Last night I saw some messages about cheat software being
detected on someone/something called DeSigNate ? But when
I looked on the player list there was no matching name. Was
he/she/it kicked immediately ?

5. Later on, a right row broke out over someone on the CT team
cheating, loads of people changed their player name to
ADMIN NEEDED. A few mins later an option came up to
vote this player off or not. As it happened he wasn't voted off.
I didn't vote for 2 reasons:
a) I was busy hiding and being scared (as per usual) and
didn't realise what was going in time.
b) Being on the same team as this guy (until one round
previous) I wasn't in a position to make an informed
decision whether he was cheating or not. If you need
a majority to vote a player off then it's going to be
difficult as those on the same team will have a much
tougher time figuring out if someone is cheating.
If you don't have a majority then there is potential for
abuse and victimisation.
It seems a like an abdication of responsibilty to leave it
up to the players to vote.
Surely an admin is in a better position to see if a
player is cheating or not (can't you do 1st person
chasecam with admin control ??).

 

[Ch3tan]

The player voting should have been disabled.

The problems with people being abnned at random across all HL games was a WON issue, not adminmod.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Jobs, obviously the anti-cheat software isn't perfect...

YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BANNED YET

Heh, won't be able to play CS until the new year (5th Jan to be exact) so I won't be able to school yas for a while. Until then, happy hunting on the servers...

Grrr, I need ConditionZero or else me skillz will be sorely lacking soon!

 

[old.jobbie]

dunno if its just me, but also on the servers now, it times me out on nearly every map change

i have to retry to connect, alos when it dosnt time me out i miss the pistol round, i never missed the pistol round before

anyone help?

ill ban yer dolly, cheeky sod, just wait till after christmas, im gonna rape your little wooly arse

 

[old.mraargh]

YAY

Actually Jobbie I think you might find that that period of time is in fact the server configuring/preparing its admin mod software - I find that if I wait patiently for about 12 secs my computer loads the map and things begin as they ought to.

Jobbie does indeed cheat - he has the toggle/actuallycanplaythegameproperly.dll cheat, lesser known and most certainly not detectable by admin mod. This is in contrast to my cl_diewhilelookingatscenery modification which unfortunately is detectable by everyone.

I personally would rather play on a server which crashed every map and ran like a p133 with 4kb of ram (ie, a Jolt server) than one with a cheater on it. Furthermore, especially playing last night, I felt strongly that the lag issue is slowly getting better.

 

[natrat]

You should find the lag and end of map timeouts have no stopped. Please feedback here.

 

[Deady]

I shall look forward to this being on the TFC servers.

 

[Ch3tan]

Originally posted by natrat
You should find the lag and end of map timeouts have no stopped. Please feedback here.

Nat this degeneration in your ability to speak...have you actually slept in the last few days?

 

[Tom]

Just played for an hour or so after being away for a few days working.

The old system of calling for an admin or recording a demo worked well, why can't this anti-cheat software be run randomly, and unannounced? The increased ping (from 40 to 100) really sucks.

BTW Dollysheep, YOUR WOOLY ASS IS MINE! S H O T T E H ! !

 

[Ch3tan]

The ping issue should now be sorted, as natrat said (kind off) in his last post.

The old system is still in place, this just compliments it.

 

[old.ollyitus]

1) Anti cheat software is a good thing. I got no extra lag or map crashes.

there are a number of things i find highly annoying:
1) voting - cos the best player is always put up for voting off by some shit 8 year old.
2) Those annoying EVIL green text fade ins and outs. They soo piss me off

i would really like to see the evil fades deleted + voting disabled

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Voting seems really poo. Like Olly pointed out the best player does seem to get put up for a vote by some little twit every round (not that I've been playing... ).

Lag don't seem bad, though like Jobs said, I'm missing the pistol round now - which I never used to. The tactic of waiting to see who wins that all important first round whilst in speccy mode fails miserably (/me weeps). I hate those pistols... can't hit shite with 'em anyway so not too much of a bother.

Makes me laugh though, was round friend's earlier (hence the CS playing - whilst drunk though) and all (well most of 'em) the top players who used to be called 'cheat' (Jobs, etc.) by peeps who couldn't take their skill were still on. Makes you wonder about how many accusations and bitchy rumours there really were in the first place!!! Though in truth I never doubted yas Jobs...

ps. Lag is funny. I was shooting at a wall for no particular reason other than that it was looking at me funny and before I knew it some fewl had teleported in front of me and his head had blown clean off

 

[old.jobbie]

well have to say played on bw all night last night, didnt see any lag any where, didnt time out on map changes and actually made the pistol rounds, yay

well done Nat you can get some sleep now cheers


saw a few lamers being kicked for various cheats, which always gives me a giggle.

and bw servers last night were the fullest i have seen them for ages, hope it keeps up

oh well back to work, roll on friday

christmas for me = beer, cs, more beer, bit food, cs, bit sleep, cs, pee, cs, beer

oops forgot, and talk to mrs Jobbie and kids on christmas day


god i can narf dribble on.

 

[old.Hooligun]

More anecdotal feedback:

Dual Duster was better last night. Still some sticky lag but
not as bad as before. No noticeable delay between
level changes. Nice one !

Pings seem consistently higher when the server is busy,
250ish vs 180ish previously. Maybe a little more hardware is needed ?

Still like to see the introduction of a cl_nokevlarifpingunder100 flag

Xmas for me means no PC (we're at the folks) but with a couple of
GBA's, a link cable, and a couple of copies Doom (go Santa !) I should make it.

Cheers.

 

[Wij]

I actually played some CS on the BW servers last night and quite enjoyed it. I was even doing well for a little while

 

[Ch3tan]

If the servers are all more full, the ping will go up a tad. BUt your getting a generally better game of CS for now, so enjoy it.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

JOBS U HAVE KIDS!?

THE WORLD IS DOOMED!!!!1

 

[~Lazarus~]

Originally posted by jobbie
oops forgot, and talk to mrs Jobbie and kids on christmas day

Do you have a camcorder ?

Just record a conversation that your wife can play back at will.

You can get a few more frags in then

 

[old.DarkDestiny]

anti cheat programs dont' last long, they get hacked also....

 

[cenobite]

Then they get updated and the hacks get updated and etc... Never ending circle the only hope is to catch people that have'nt upgraded to latest cheat when the Anti-Cheat stuff is upgraded.

 

[old.Mr_Moo]

Rather than than cheats ay?

 

[old.Mr_Moo]

*that than

 

[old.Smeg]

Ahhh so the fun days of playing real people instead of bots has returned to Middle Earth.....

'bout bloody time

Maybe - just maybe I can kill some pple now