another rant about someone being lame

[Novac]

go go gmoney ! tbh... u got ur chance of doing it, gmoney had his. ive done som with my necro after some fg has gotten whiped on it. yey so ? atleast i let em join for credit. ive also gotten som ''stolen'' from me many times when ive died... who care's thats what happens with loads of arti's. if u aint lucky with som go on make your own necro or maybe ask someone else to do it for u. ive done SoM for my friends many times.

 

[Rep]

atleast i let em join for credit.

yea well, he didnt

fact of the matter is, i was first on the scene, and so were my reinforcements. we all started the encounter with the thought in our heads that we would leave with at least the encounter, if nothing else. then ended up logging with nothing, hence the QQ.

 

[Edaemos]

thats pretty much the moral of the story right there minau, well said



there were 3 DT on at the time, i pmed all 3 asking if an officer was on, only one (named Pall) replied, very politley, saying that there were none except the recruitment officer who has gone afk for a while.

stop taking this as an attack on DT, i said nothing at all about DT in original post except for the fact that Gmoney was in DT. i have no problem with DT, nor have i ever had problems with any guilds in particular. if i hate, i hate individuals and make up my own mind about others in their guild ty.

Use their guild forums then mate http://www.drakan-templars.com/Portal/html/modules.php?name=Forums , don't bring these issues here it doesn't achieve anything.

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

hey scumbag! nope.. but ppl who hang with SS is as bad as SS themself ))

 

[Technodave]

Techno, have you ever heard of , or . ?

u see what time i made the post?

 

[Danamyr]

*snip* Lots of crap *snip*

You tried. You failed. WTF is the problem?

QQ elsewhere IMHO

 

[Rep]

You tried. You failed. WTF is the problem?

QQ elsewhere IMHO

why even post something so dumb? if u cant see what my problem is, re read.

 

[elbeek]

u see what time i made the post?

So correct punctuation, or any for that matter, is only possible during daylight hours?

 

[Kalidur]

So correct punctuation, or any for that matter, is only possible during daylight hours?

depends if your nocturnal or not

 

[Vandrakken]

depends if your nocturnal or not

Maybe he uses a keyboard similar to the scouse keyboard :worthy:
Keyboard

 

[nakkiel]

you mean like you did when AoR "stole" your SoM? That was a proper QQ of the highest order that one.

hahahaha

 

[Crimson LoneWolf]

Who the hell cares about punctuation and gramar here anyway? You read, you translate, if its too hard an effort on your part to understand the meaning, then why on earth do you? bother

 

[Methos]

Who the hell cares about punctuation and gramar here anyway? You read, you translate, if its too hard an effort on your part to understand the meaning, then why on earth do you? bother

If you don't bother to write a decent post, others won't bother reading it.

 

[Galoma]

Not giveing ppl credit is a bad thing to doo... specialy when its a hard (spawn-time) arty to get... it should always be posibel for other to get credit...

I got a few necros my selc and BBs... and have been doing a few artys my self... thoe not SOM... and ppl can always joi´n for the credit... and it they got there first (as in the case with a fg dieing to CS today) i ress them, join the be... farm it with them, under the 1 condition that i get torandom like every1 ells... :worthy: Well a few times its pre-claimed if i can solo it and im there first

sadly there is a few ppl ingame who don't know how to behave :/

Regards Galoma

 

[pbaz]

if its too hard an effort on your part to understand the meaning, then why on earth do you? bother

Excellent example of how misplaced punctuation can totally wreck the meaning of a sentence.

 

[elbeek]

Who the hell cares about punctuation and gramar here anyway? You read, you translate, if its too hard an effort on your part to understand the meaning, then why on earth do you? bother

try...bother?

And why not use punctuation lets face it if i was to write like this and not bother using any punctuation alot would tire and not bother to read what is written and then completly miss the point of the thread and make some lame reply because it was too hard to read in the first place also it makes my eyes bleed reading line upon line of words with no break in the sentence whatsoever and whilst we are on the matter if my granmar waz bad then thoze whoze furst langwage iz not english wood realy struggle toooo understand wot iz writted so letz at leest mack sum efort too try and spell korektly and uze the afourmentioned punctuatshun if at all posibull.

 

[Red HATred]

try...bother?

And why not use punctuation lets face it if i was to write like this and not bother using any punctuation alot would tire and not bother to read what is written and then completly miss the point of the thread and make some lame reply because it was too hard to read in the first place also it makes my eyes bleed reading line upon line of words with no break in the sentence whatsoever and whilst we are on the matter if my granmar waz bad then thoze whoze furst langwage iz not english wood realy struggle toooo understand wot iz writted so letz at leest mack sum efort too try and spell korektly and uze the afourmentioned punctuatshun if at all posibull.

MUAHHAHAAH the sarcasm!!!!

 

[Garnet]

try...bother?

And why not use punctuation lets face it if i was to write like this and not bother using any punctuation alot would tire and not bother to read what is written and then completly miss the point of the thread and make some lame reply because it was too hard to read in the first place also it makes my eyes bleed reading line upon line of words with no break in the sentence whatsoever and whilst we are on the matter if my granmar waz bad then thoze whoze furst langwage iz not english wood realy struggle toooo understand wot iz writted so letz at leest mack sum efort too try and spell korektly and uze the afourmentioned punctuatshun if at all posibull.

Best post in the thread. Haha

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

amazing the way the issue is beign glazed over here because people would rather nitpick Grammer.


anyways i'll just troll somewher else

 

[rampant]

naaa the issue is irrelevant - they got wiped, and someone else came along and got it. It was not very nice, but thats the game

 

[Crimson LoneWolf]

Elbeek, perfect example of someone who loves to hear himself speak/read his own writing.

 

[Edaemos]

try...bother?

And why not use punctuation lets face it if i was to write like this and not bother using any punctuation alot would tire and not bother to read what is written and then completly miss the point of the thread and make some lame reply because it was too hard to read in the first place also it makes my eyes bleed reading line upon line of words with no break in the sentence whatsoever and whilst we are on the matter if my granmar waz bad then thoze whoze furst langwage iz not english wood realy struggle toooo understand wot iz writted so letz at leest mack sum efort too try and spell korektly and uze the afourmentioned punctuatshun if at all posibull.

Andy

 

[Danamyr]

why even post something so dumb? if u cant see what my problem is, re read.

I fully understand your post, you clearly are missing my point. Your group tried and failed. The Necro is under no obligation whatsoever to help you out. If he is capable of completing the artifact requirements then good luck to him TBH.

I really cannot see what the fuss is about. Any claim your group had to the artifact was lost when you got wiped out - it's a free for all again then.

 

[elbeek]

Elbeek, perfect example of someone who loves to hear himself speak/read his own writing.

I also have a sense of humour. Do you?

 

[Crimson LoneWolf]

Yes, i talk to kids every day.

 

[Killswitch]

I fully understand your post, you clearly are missing my point. Your group tried and failed. The Necro is under no obligation whatsoever to help you out. If he is capable of completing the artifact requirements then good luck to him TBH.

I really cannot see what the fuss is about. Any claim your group had to the artifact was lost when you got wiped out - it's a free for all again then.

As I understand the CoC, it's not even that straightforward is it? Since you can't 'camp' an arti or mob spawn (and it's first person to hit the mob that 'gets' it), I guess there's nothing stopping a necro letting a group kill the first two mobs and then pulling the third one. Not sure that's right, but I've seen a similar thing happen with Eriny's charm. My groups pulled and killed the mobs and got the orbs up until the last camp, where another group pulled the last mob and got the orb.

Seems like common sense is the only way forward here. Even then, you can run into problems. It's possible that Techno didn't act in the most friendly way, but if he's to be believed then the group that wiped weren't exactly Mr and Mrs SweetnessAndLight.com now were they? It certainly sucks that they then broke CoC by attacking the mobs that TECHNO had pulled.

If they'd wanted to steal the encounter, they should just have waited until the 2nd mob died and then pulled the third before Techno could hit it.

TOA - the new buzzword for total, unwavering, all-encompassing greed and stupidity. They could at least have made the CoC more clear as to the rules involving Arti and ML encounters. The new rule about farming encounters is a complete joke and waste of precious bits.

How hard would it have been to set encounters so they couldn't be interfered with? Roll on Instanced TOA imo!!!

This rant has been brought to you by the letters T, O and A and the punctuation marks ., , ?, and !.

/bow

 

[Huntingtons]

there is no law against me farting on some1s food, but its common sence not
to do it

I've been misinformed!

 

[Dalmar-Hume]

As I understand the CoC, it's not even that straightforward is it? Since you can't 'camp' an arti or mob spawn (and it's first person to hit the mob that 'gets' it), I guess there's nothing stopping a necro letting a group kill the first two mobs and then pulling the third one. Not sure that's right, but I've seen a similar thing happen with Eriny's charm. My groups pulled and killed the mobs and got the orbs up until the last camp, where another group pulled the last mob and got the orb.

Seems like common sense is the only way forward here. Even then, you can run into problems. It's possible that Techno didn't act in the most friendly way, but if he's to be believed then the group that wiped weren't exactly Mr and Mrs SweetnessAndLight.com now were they? It certainly sucks that they then broke CoC by attacking the mobs that TECHNO had pulled.

im pretty sure that i read a post from a GOA GM stating that a encounter is main mob and all related adds, which by defination means that whoever did pull the erinys charm mob was in fact breaking the CoC by interfering in your encounter. we do really need a updated clarifaction for arti encounters that require several steps to be done

one problem with inviting ppl to a BG is that the CoC doesnt recognise any loot arrangements and if technos did join your BG (which could have had loot permissions etc) and you didnt let him have the cloak he would have been left without anything - as far as the games concerened anyone in the BG at time of completion is involved in the encounter and as such entitled to the loot.
tbh the safeest thing in that posistion would have been to leave them there dead and pull the encounter (as they had failed)

 

[IainC]

im pretty sure that i read a post from a GOA GM stating that a encounter is main mob and all related adds, which by defination means that whoever did pull the erinys charm mob was in fact breaking the CoC by interfering in your encounter. we do really need a updated clarifaction for arti encounters that require several steps to be done

one problem with inviting ppl to a BG is that the CoC doesnt recognise any loot arrangements and if technos did join your BG (which could have had loot permissions etc) and you didnt let him have the cloak he would have been left without anything - as far as the games concerened anyone in the BG at time of completion is involved in the encounter and as such entitled to the loot.
tbh the safeest thing in that posistion would have been to leave them there dead and pull the encounter (as they had failed)

The way it works is like this:
Previously (pre-ToA), there weren't any 'multi-mob encounters' (or at least none that didn't take an entire raid to get to) so the CoC was fairly straightforward. You couldn't preclaim a mob, a camp or an area, you could only 'own' the mob that you were fighting at that time. 'Fighting' in this case meaning that you had at least pulled it. Along comes ToA and, of course many encounters consist of several mobs linked together - Danos and his guards, the harpies for Harpy Feather Cloak, The sphinxes at Shades of Mist for example. To me it seems harsh and unfair that a group that has defeated 99% of an encounter can be denied the reward because someone pulls the boss mob a second before they've cleared the last of his adds. So we changed the CoC slightly to include 'encounters' rather than just single mobs. This way, if your group was doing SoM and have killed two of the sphinxes and a third group come along and steal the last sphinx from you then they are breaking the CoC as the whole encounter belongs to you.

Having said all that though, an encounter does not belong to you indefinitely. You can't kill one mob, then go and have dinner, a little nap and come back expecting to still own it. You only own it until you've either completed it or are unable to continue. Once either of those things happen, it then belongs to anyone again. You've had a shot, you either did it or didn't and now it's open to whoever can start it again. If your group wipes you no longer own the encounter even if you have rezzers inc. It doesn't matter if you die on the first or the last mob, you've still failed and have given up your ownership of the encounter.

Players may make their own rules about what is 'fair' or 'right' on top of these rules but from our side that is all we take into account when dealing with reports of artifact theft. If you follow those rules then you aren't 'stealing' an encounter.

 

[Ebra]

Instead off making fun we make eachother life hell as much as possible.
A solo Necro doing this encounter well lets face probally he was a farmer talking he deeds to be good because they where dead and could take over.
For what? the cash he has already probally is alot i guess.
Words off sharing, helping are hardly there anymore.
Try not to farm lots off cash try to farm alot off friends.
I really would change alot for Albion even in RvR.