Another necro trick!

[old.mattshanes]

Oh shit better watch out from hibs population becoming 80% animists now even dook might try one

 

[Sharma]

have yu noticed how the albs defend this bug because it gives them a way to get the relics easy?

 

[Brannor McThife]

Originally posted by sharma
have yu noticed how the albs defend this bug because it gives them a way to get the relics easy?

Um, being able to put your pet on stay and walk around, within a limitted radius is now a bug?

Rah!



-G

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by Brannor McThife
You sure you play enough fun, relaxing games? You seem to have a lot of frustration and anger built up.



-G

Only towards twat's.... especialy those who dont play the game , but defend peopel who are using so call'd game features to ruin the game for others. It's not that I dont like you.. Your just a waste of space.....and breathing air that could be used more usefull.. for ballones for eksampel

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Oh shit better watch out from hibs population becoming 80% animists now even dook might try one

Hehe, you're just bitter 'coz I keep frying your ass before you get anywhere near me.

Tip: Don't run into PBAoE.

 

[Sharma]

Originally posted by Brannor McThife
Um, being able to put your pet on stay and walk around, within a limitted radius is now a bug?

Rah!



-G

i thought you had to stay in the pets LoS as in if you pass through a wall blam goes the pet..

 

[Brannor McThife]

Originally posted by sharma
i thought you had to stay in the pets LoS as in if you pass through a wall blam goes the pet..

No.

Necros use the stay-move-release to get around in dungeons a lot. Works well when in the Barrows and DF.

I've heard of one or two necros that have got across to Hib/Mid sides of DF using this technique.

And with the utterly CRAP pathing system of pets, losing your pet everytime LoS was lost on it, would mean necros would spend 90% of their time summoning new pets.

-G

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
They should of made the necro similar to the one in diablo 2

Lol.

Give AE resis debuff, Bone prison/wall, Corpse explosion and bone spirits

amplify damage and Iron maiden wouldn't hurt either

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Heh people think enchanters are overpowered what about animists? imagine 8 of them guarding a keep that can be:

7 mushroomsx8=56 mushrooms.
Hitting capped resistant alb=150 a hit sometimes.

so 56x150=8000(?)

That can be 8000 dmg on one person who goes near them basically making it impossible to take the keep?

Makes taking keeps very easy too. Basically you can't get near the gate / walls because you're chain nuked by turrets.

Also GTAE can work vs a PBAE defence, you just need a lot of it.

 

[Falcon]

ROFL Mattshanes, and how exactly do you propose an Animist get those shrooms to all target the same player? You can't, they attack randomly, so no you'll never get 8000dmg on a single player if they're in a group, you'll get a few pathetic little, VERY highly resistable 150dmgs on lots of players.

Animist pets have quite a long cast time on their DDs too, so in fact they're nowhere near as powerful as you'd like to make out.

Yes Animists turrets can hit through walls, but as I say, you can't determine what you hit, they have a very high chance of being resisted, they have a slow cast time and there's one other gaping issue with them which I wont say because then you'll all abuse it to make yourself immune to them :/

Animists are good in keep defence for sure, but definetely not a touch on necros and not in the ways most people think.

P.S. Brannor, for someone who acts like such a goody goody and arse-kisser to Kemor you're extremely quick to use legal exploits every chance you can, but hey you always were rather two faced.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Took 5 albs out in a very short time at beno they are a keep defence class ffs.I have capped every resist and some on 29% they are rarely resisted still even,i don't what spell type they are perhaps body(?) but they did 120-150 in a VERY quick time.

By the way i was refering to they can do upto 8k damage if they all hit one which is very unlikely but even if 50% hit one target its 3-4k damage.....

 

[Brannor McThife]

Originally posted by Falcon
P.S. Brannor, for someone who acts like such a goody goody and arse-kisser to Kemor you're extremely quick to use legal exploits every chance you can, but hey you always were rather two faced.

blah blah blah to the first bit.

Legal exploit? Isn't that a contradiction in terms. If it's legal, it can't be an exploit, if it's an exploit, it can't be legal.

Every chance I can (could)? Pray tell, please ellaborate. Two faced? How so? Ellabarote on your accusation Xest.

I am amused at this sudden aggression from you. Oh wait, does it have something to do with the whole Dark Tools of Camelot issue?



-G

 

[Bagloor]

Originally posted by Brannor McThife
Legal exploit? Isn't that a contradiction in terms. If it's legal, it can't be an exploit, if it's an exploit, it can't be legal.

That Sir is a lie, the word exploit itself have nothing to do with if it's legal or not.

 

[old.Krusha]

what if the 30 hibs actually had a constructive thought and rushed down and took the pet and clerics out? (you know standard stun/pbaoe spam they so fondly use) But nooo.. they stand up in the relic room waiting to pbaoe, and when they actually had to -move- to do some dmg.. they whined...

Its always easier to pint and cry than actually think in the us

 

[Falcon]

You're honestly daft enough to think 15 Hibs stand a chance against 60 Albs ?

Brannor, of course "legal exploit" isn't a contradiction in terms. You can exploit without breaking laws in many different circumstances whether it's in game or in many real life situations.

What's DToC got to do with anything?

 

[Brannor McThife]

Originally posted by Falcon
You're honestly daft enough to think 15 Hibs stand a chance against 60 Albs ?

Yes. 4/5 PBAE and the rest druid/warden = 60 dead Albs. Not to mention the guard spawn.

Originally posted by Falcon
What's DToC got to do with anything?

Just wanderring if it was my lambasting of the DToC creator on the prydwen.net forums that generated your hostility towards me and the "two faced" comment.

Would still like an explanation for that jibe.

-G

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Falcon
You're honestly daft enough to think 15 Hibs stand a chance against 60 Albs ?

Brannor, of course "legal exploit" isn't a contradiction in terms. You can exploit without breaking laws in many different circumstances whether it's in game or in many real life situations.

What's DToC got to do with anything?

Seen rvr excal section.... 2 fgs hibs killed 80 albs?keke

 

[Jonaldo]

Bit disappointed in Brannors supporting of using exploits but as he's left the game now it's nothing to do with anything as he's no longer allowed any valid statements

Simple solution, shade form is vunerable to damage.. fair enough, shade form should be mezzable. This isn't the case at the moment but should be very easily implementable.

 

[old.Cher]

God mattshanes i once knew a time when u weren't bitter to every class you felt had skills your class should have, whatever happened to you??

all you ever seem to do now is run around saying you either want someting nerfed (so you can kill it) or...... no wait thats about it.

Me think someone is no longer having fun, maybe its time you quit

 

[Falcon]

Yes. 4/5 PBAE and the rest druid/warden = 60 dead Albs. Not to mention the guard spawn.

If 60 Albs aren't capable of mezzing, stunning or rooting 1fg then it makes even more of a mockery that such incompetent players were able to get the relic.

Remember also that stealthers can't take relics stealthed, which should be in the same boat as necros not being able to take them in shade form, both offer forms of immunity and it's arguable that stealth is even less powerful than the necros shade form due to the fact you can be knocked out of it there and then without having to chase another entity.

 

[Brannor McThife]

Originally posted by Falcon
If 60 Albs aren't capable of mezzing, stunning or rooting 1fg then it makes even more of a mockery that such incompetent players were able to get the relic.

I recall defending the Dagda Relic Tower against 30-40 Albs, and there were only about 6 of us. It's really easy, when you can PBAE through the floor, and they can't target you for spells through the floor.

Without the necro, 1FG could EASILY have kept 60+ Albs at bay. It's the old Keep Lord defense scenario. At present, Necros can clear the Lord's room with impunity, in the future, they won't be able to do much in keeps. Grabbing items with the pet on STAY is something most necros learn to do when killing aggro mobs in PvE.

-G

 

[Falcon]

Er yes, but no one said anything about defending up in the relic room, they said the Hibs should've gone down to kill them before the necro went up, and 1fg Hibs wont survive more than a few seconds against 60 Albs in "open field" RvR unless as I stated, the 60 Albs are truly retarded.

 

[VidX]

Still the argument stands:

If a Necro is in Shade mode, unable to be affected by any attacks, simply because it isn't really there, how can it actually pick up physical objects?

Yip, it might be possible to kill the pet in the middle of the Albs guarding it, but hmm... how?

15 Hibs, most likely res-sick, vs 60 Albs who know they are coming down (Necro will notify), how? Intsa-Mezz then pbaoe? yip, that'll work if the Albs are behaving like nice sheep and standing together or on top of the pet, and not spread out around the keep like logic dictates.

Trebuchet? Really, how many people actually would think of bringing a Treb to a relic defence with probably only 60 Hibs online in total?

"Yip, your group run to DC through the Albs, retake the keep, grab a Trebuchet or 2, and ammo of course, and fight your way back through the 10 groups of Albs camping the relic keep. Us 8 will keep the rabble from the keep and wil clear the way for you coming back. Just remember to wake us up when you are incoming since it's 7am and we're half falling asleep here and some of us need to leave for work soon, so run along and don't stand around wasting time."

err... YEAH RIGHT!

Even at that, a Treb in the relic tower.... yeah... ok, so who is running the wallhack to see through the walls to groundtarget the pet? Also, the Albs where were? At the second door?

Lemme see... distance from relic to second door along the x and y axis... about 600... minimum range of a Treb... yip, thought so, IMPOSSIBLE!

Yip, Albs bitch about only Hibs having endurance song, so they get it. So Mythic seem to be making it so each realm has more or less equal abilities but on different classes. So where are the Mid and Hib necro-shade abilities?

Or let me put it this way: If the Necro was a Hib or Mid class, how would the Albs feel? Hmm... the Barrysworld forums would be down with the amount of Albs whining.

Necros need sorted, Animists need sorted, ALL pet LoS issues need sorted, and Mythic need to start to think before doing silly things like making an invulnerable class, even with the fact they are only invulnerable when their pet is alive.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by old.Cher
God mattshanes i once knew a time when u weren't bitter to every class you felt had skills your class should have, whatever happened to you??

all you ever seem to do now is run around saying you either want someting nerfed (so you can kill it) or...... no wait thats about it.

Me think someone is no longer having fun, maybe its time you quit

Oh and who was the one moaning about necros?then realises she hasn't tried a minstrel in rvr and moves to an overpowered realm to try to be good...

Did i say nerf animists?erm no so fucking read

 

[Balbor]

Originally posted by VidX
Still the argument stands:

If a Necro is in Shade mode, unable to be affected by any attacks, simply because it isn't really there, how can it actually pick up physical objects?

Yip, it might be possible to kill the pet in the middle of the Albs guarding it, but hmm... how?

15 Hibs, most likely res-sick, vs 60 Albs who know they are coming down (Necro will notify), how? Intsa-Mezz then pbaoe? yip, that'll work if the Albs are behaving like nice sheep and standing together or on top of the pet, and not spread out around the keep like logic dictates.

Trebuchet? Really, how many people actually would think of bringing a Treb to a relic defence with probably only 60 Hibs online in total?

"Yip, your group run to DC through the Albs, retake the keep, grab a Trebuchet or 2, and ammo of course, and fight your way back through the 10 groups of Albs camping the relic keep. Us 8 will keep the rabble from the keep and wil clear the way for you coming back. Just remember to wake us up when you are incoming since it's 7am and we're half falling asleep here and some of us need to leave for work soon, so run along and don't stand around wasting time."

err... YEAH RIGHT!

Even at that, a Treb in the relic tower.... yeah... ok, so who is running the wallhack to see through the walls to groundtarget the pet? Also, the Albs where were? At the second door?

Lemme see... distance from relic to second door along the x and y axis... about 600... minimum range of a Treb... yip, thought so, IMPOSSIBLE!

Yip, Albs bitch about only Hibs having endurance song, so they get it. So Mythic seem to be making it so each realm has more or less equal abilities but on different classes. So where are the Mid and Hib necro-shade abilities?

Or let me put it this way: If the Necro was a Hib or Mid class, how would the Albs feel? Hmm... the Barrysworld forums would be down with the amount of Albs whining.

Necros need sorted, Animists need sorted, ALL pet LoS issues need sorted, and Mythic need to start to think before doing silly things like making an invulnerable class, even with the fact they are only invulnerable when their pet is alive.

FOOL - 15 hibs should not be able to kill 60 ALBs under no circumstance, and can only do so by using multipul PBAE, there is no way of geting past that, yet you seem to think its fair. No we find a way of getting around it, a way that is not totally invisible (just kill the pet for god sake, if you can't then you didn't have enough people to do so and didn't deserve to win) and you start to cry. You woundn't like it if the mids too all the relics and logged 20 L50 SMs in relic room of both keeps and there was no way to get it would you.

 

[mid_Efour]

hmm that was one hell of a boring read..... BW and Vn boards.

Gratz on RR6 matt

I dont think necros should be able to pick up relics. withouth dropping out of shade form or whatever.. then they have the 20 sec recast time then.....back to normal.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Thanks efour!!! i miss seeing your troll yeah all this

NERF NECROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FFS everyone knows about now,i even hate it myself.Anyway not long til 1.60 now and should be less whining then

 

[Dook_Pug]

LOL.

Why do you guys bother with Brannor?

All of his comments are biased to whatever realm/class he happens to be playing at the time.

Don't even bother humour him, he's just a running joke now.

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by Balbor
FOOL - 15 hibs should not be able to kill 60 ALBs under no circumstance, and can only do so by using multipul PBAE, there is no way of geting past that, yet you seem to think its fair. No we find a way of getting around it, a way that is not totally invisible (just kill the pet for god sake, if you can't then you didn't have enough people to do so and didn't deserve to win) and you start to cry. You woundn't like it if the mids too all the relics and logged 20 L50 SMs in relic room of both keeps and there was no way to get it would you.

Ok, you know anything about warfare/tactics or even history?

Defending a keep: You are looking at a typical 10:1 attacker:defender ratio. The defenders have the upper hand unless outnumbered or out-thought.

 

[Brannor McThife]

Using Dook's Logic (tm). If I'm not playing any realm, that means I'm not biased towards any realm.

However, something that has always amused me, even in my playing days, is most people's inability to grasp the simple fact, that I actually don't care about the realm I play for, more importantly I cared for the rules. And playing in a realm, meant I was able to more closely observe people in that realm, and report more of them.

But don't let me burst your prejudiced bubble there Dookie. Us South Africans just aren't quite the same as you.



-G