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Kinag

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Sharkith said:
you should move because there are better places where the game is what you remember it as. Where there are massive battles and sieges. Thats a fact. All your doing is perpetuating your own misery by staying. Complaining here is doing nothing other than giving people like Kagato some kind of sick pleasure.

It makes sense to move and believe me it does not take that long to get going in a new place. As Zorba said:

"All you have to do is cut the rope and be free!"

You're wrong about that one.

It takes ages to level from 1(20)-50.

Getting geared might not be hard with the ToA changes, but the leveling process is daunting.
 

Gahn

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Kinag said:
You're wrong about that one.

It takes ages to level from 1(20)-50.

Getting geared might not be hard with the ToA changes, but the leveling process is daunting.

Uhm think i got 2 days played on zerk, 49.5 and ml3 and 4 arties leveled.
Not that long ;)
 

Gahn

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whinersmincer said:
so u soloed to 49.5 in 2 days ?

2 Days = 48 hours of playing (not that i started on a Friday and finished on a Monday ofc -.- took my time rerolled 3 weeks ago), not soloed since i moved with rest of group tho.
I reckon u can solo (on TDs) in 4 days tho with a good free level bonus Realm.
 

Dre@d

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1-50 isnt hard if u do it correctly.( Even Greag managed to do it )
And is it me or this kind of raids only happen on exc/pryd cluster?
Seriously now, those who whine on fh about ac'ers and to albs in general go US/avalon, cause all u do with whine is feeding his stupid mentality, isnt that hard to change server and it will benefit both sides, yourself by finding a better community and kids cause they get angry wen u add on them wen killing guards at 6 am.
(Sorry for my crap-english).
 

Sharkith

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Kinag said:
You're wrong about that one.

It takes ages to level from 1(20)-50.

Getting geared might not be hard with the ToA changes, but the leveling process is daunting.

Nope - I would have agreed with you four months ago - in fact I posted here saying I would never leave and that I would prefer to quit instead. Well in the end the guild are too cool to leave.

A high population server has people running into instances all the time. They invite you into their groups and you can level much much faster. I have done relatively little grinding solo (about 20%). I very seldom ever had interaction with people outside of my guild on Prydwen because there was just to low a population where we are now I have had plenty of interaction with people I don't know and I am levelling extremely quickly.

After moving I have 2 characters above 40 already, epics to 7th step, and champion quests to Chapter 2. My zerker is 47 and quite a few ML group steps done. I am not always able to play either.

I thought like you 4 months ago Kinag but I was wrong. Seriously it is not that hard and you can protect yourself from all this negative feeling and whine. It really is the sensible option when you have people who quite literally 'don't give a shit' (As Kagato himself said).
 

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whinersmincer said:
so u soloed to 49.5 in 2 days ?
i did 1-50 in bit under 2 days on classic. Solo with rm. No 50 gear, just what the money got me. The tds make it really easy.
 
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Sharkith said:
Nope - I would have agreed with you four months ago - in fact I posted here saying I would never leave and that I would prefer to quit instead. Well in the end the guild are too cool to leave.

A high population server has people running into instances all the time. They invite you into their groups and you can level much much faster. I have done relatively little grinding solo (about 20%). I very seldom ever had interaction with people outside of my guild on Prydwen because there was just to low a population where we are now I have had plenty of interaction with people I don't know and I am levelling extremely quickly.

After moving I have 2 characters above 40 already, epics to 7th step, and champion quests to Chapter 2. My zerker is 47 and quite a few ML group steps done. I am not always able to play either.

I thought like you 4 months ago Kinag but I was wrong. Seriously it is not that hard and you can protect yourself from all this negative feeling and whine. It really is the sensible option when you have people who quite literally 'don't give a shit' (As Kagato himself said).

Shark, don't waste your time with making serious posts with these people. They do not play the game in the same spirit as we do so they will never understand that beating someone on unfair terms/grounds ( outnummbering, shit'o'clock raids etc ) isn't as rewarding and frankly in my book means shit.
 

dajnamajt

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its a 24/7 game, i got no clue why people whine.. been like this for 5 years.. no news. if they wanna take it when noone is awake then sure.. why not? then they gain it without a problem, i would say smart albion. Altho my opinion is neutral
 

Darzil

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You bastards, I want to try to recapture it primetime, at least once !

Would have been nice not to log in after work (7:30) and seen Alb 4 keeps down, mind. It's much harder to fight back at that point. I'm guessing I'll have to expect the same again tonight ? Dunno when they were taken, but they didn't show in /social, because that only went back 4 hours.

Darzil
 

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dajnamajt said:
its a 24/7 game, i got no clue why people whine.. been like this for 5 years.. no news. if they wanna take it when noone is awake then sure.. why not? then they gain it without a problem, i would say smart albion. Altho my opinion is neutral

Surely the reason for playing must be for the challenge and to have fun, something which I honestly can't see fighting npcs to take an object when there are noone there to defend can offer. More importantly, it takes away the thrill of relic raids; the action, the people, the tactics and all that is fun about relic raid. Not fighting npcs early morning/late night when noone else is there.

It's not smart, cunning or whatever. It is just lame.
 

Sarumann

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atleast asa alb u can lvl from 1-50 in about like 16-20 hours
Make DS necro and what u want as main then a cleric on 3rd and heeeeeeey permanent pulling :)
 

Sarumann

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I think GoA should just make it even if its in a keep or the main relic keep u need 5 FGs to be able to pick relic up
cant be that hard anyways :m00: Would sertently stop albs latenight/earlymorning raids
 

whinersmincer

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Sarumann said:
I think GoA should just make it even if its in a keep or the main relic keep u need 5 FGs to be able to pick relic up
cant be that hard anyways :m00: Would sertently stop albs latenight/earlymorning raids

why the hell should the once that play in the mornings have it harder then the rest.. maybe the got a job where the have to work undtil 05 and then the come home and wanna play abit before the to go sleep ???
 

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This will give you an idea of the current Alb mentality. I was in the defence /bg last night, solo as usual and was reading the Alb comments. The one that stuck in my mind was from a well known player whose reaction when questioned about forming a keep retake was as follows.

" We will stay at Beno and wait till Midnight before retaking keeps".

This is not a verbatim quote but there will be many who will remember the exact words used.

The problem that Albs now have is this PVE keeps back mentality and this is what is wrecking what little fun there is left to be had on the server.

I have said it before and I will repeat it. It is time that all keeps were set at a level in proportion to the numbers online. For example, as numbers get lower, the number and level of NPC's should increase, making it harder for those who insist on playing in their own special way, and we all know who they are.

It saddens me to see Albs qqing when the Mids make an effort to get the server started again, if it carries on like this what is there left to enjoy. No matter how hard Albs try you cannot polish a turd.
 

Kinetix

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About the relic and AC i got nothing to add, but dam i would pay to see Pips face now :fluffle: :p

on the server change part i just wont try to avalon cause i cant understand shit of german, its like a german moving to a spanish server :eek7:
 

snoepie

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Netcode said:
Ah we knew this anyway, but i dont understand why hibs just dont pve back their relic and get balance in the game

i'm asleep at 5am in the morning !
logged on last night and 1st thing i thought when i did /rw was omfg lolololol , let's go get our relic back now !
shame i seemed to be the only one trying with a wee bit over a fg :p
 

Phule_Gubben

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Kinetix said:
About the relic and AC i got nothing to add, but dam i would pay to see Pips face now :fluffle: :p

on the server change part i just wont try to avalon cause i cant understand shit of german, its like a german moving to a spanish server :eek7:

Do you understand spanish? :)
 

Sigwyen

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Sharkith said:
you should move because there are better places where the game is what you remember it as. Where there are massive battles and sieges. Thats a fact. All your doing is perpetuating your own misery by staying. Complaining here is doing nothing other than giving people like Kagato some kind of sick pleasure.

It makes sense to move and believe me it does not take that long to get going in a new place. As Zorba said:

"All you have to do is cut the rope and be free!"

Well shark not all can just move and start over .. not all speak german or french or have the time to lvl to 50 get cl's get ml's get toa'd etc ...

Its cool some have that possibility but thats not an option for all

regarding the albabies snatching relic back I DONT CARE ... i hate all albabies they are red and should be dead

They can take the relics at what hour suit there skills the best....
Ofc midg will do it at our will when ever we want to

/Mirk
 

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elbeek said:
This will give you an idea of the current Alb mentality. I was in the defence /bg last night, solo as usual and was reading the Alb comments. The one that stuck in my mind was from a well known player whose reaction when questioned about forming a keep retake was as follows.

" We will stay at Beno and wait till Midnight before retaking keeps".

This is not a verbatim quote but there will be many who will remember the exact words used.

The problem that Albs now have is this PVE keeps back mentality and this is what is wrecking what little fun there is left to be had on the server.

I have said it before and I will repeat it. It is time that all keeps were set at a level in proportion to the numbers online. For example, as numbers get lower, the number and level of NPC's should increase, making it harder for those who insist on playing in their own special way, and we all know who they are.

It saddens me to see Albs qqing when the Mids make an effort to get the server started again, if it carries on like this what is there left to enjoy. No matter how hard Albs try you cannot polish a turd.

>:|
 

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dajnamajt said:
its a 24/7 game, i got no clue why people whine.. been like this for 5 years.. no news. if they wanna take it when noone is awake then sure.. why not? then they gain it without a problem, i would say smart albion. Altho my opinion is neutral


yes its been 24/7 for 5 years. but before nf came this sort of late night keep taking was impossible. it needed large numbers cunning and good leadership, it used too mean a lot to the ppl who managed to get the relic from the keep and make it back to there homeland. since nf it can be taken by a handful of ppl who wait until theres no opposition. so i would say not smart albion. Altho my opinion is not neutral
 

Darzil

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elbeek said:
This will give you an idea of the current Alb mentality. I was in the defence /bg last night, solo as usual and was reading the Alb comments. The one that stuck in my mind was from a well known player whose reaction when questioned about forming a keep retake was as follows.

" We will stay at Beno and wait till Midnight before retaking keeps".

True, though most Albs disagreed, and so the BG attempted to fight back against the Mids, thereby losing Beno. (Including me, I'd rather lose the relics and have a fun fight than sit in a keep and rot)

It saddens me to see Albs qqing when the Mids make an effort to get the server started again, if it carries on like this what is there left to enjoy. No matter how hard Albs try you cannot polish a turd.

Well, the Mids are making an effort to 'get the server started' again today, they've captured 2 keeps so far this morning, and broken port to all other than Ren and Hurb. I reckon they prefer daytime PvE to nighttime PvE.

Darzil
 

Darzil

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elbeek said:
This will give you an idea of the current Alb mentality. I was in the defence /bg last night, solo as usual

Apologies for the partial quote, but this does indeed show the Alb mentality well.

The mids had some high RR organised groups who knew what they were doing and worked well together. The albs had mainly soloers and pugs.

Darzil
 

Dre@d

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Kinetix for your info there's 1fg of germans that was playing spanish server( i think), and u dont have to know german to get to lvl 50 or even to get into german pugs and ts, ALL and when i say all i mean ALL of pugs i joined said it was nps that i cant speak german, cause u can understand baic things like INC ( u should udnerstand that even beign an alb) or link(left) and such stuff, ppl is very friendly, and im talking from the pov of a spaniard, my english isnt perfect, my german is.. well my german isnt ^^ so u shouldnt have any probs with german stuff.
Btw, im starting to learn basic stuff in german thanx to joining ts pugs^^ is funny at least.
 

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Kinetix said:
About the relic and AC i got nothing to add, but dam i would pay to see Pips face now :fluffle: :p

on the server change part i just wont try to avalon cause i cant understand shit of german, its like a german moving to a spanish server :eek7:
First thing i said to myself when i logged on fh this morning drinking a cup of tea, was ho well lets read about the nightshift crew, TBH it's quite sad how a small minority of albs can upset so many and nothing is being done about it,but apart from that hay, I'm just fine and dandy:wanker: ho and another thing, my face was made for only lords to look at.
 

Kinag

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Sharkith said:
Nope - I would have agreed with you four months ago - in fact I posted here saying I would never leave and that I would prefer to quit instead. Well in the end the guild are too cool to leave.

A high population server has people running into instances all the time. They invite you into their groups and you can level much much faster. I have done relatively little grinding solo (about 20%). I very seldom ever had interaction with people outside of my guild on Prydwen because there was just to low a population where we are now I have had plenty of interaction with people I don't know and I am levelling extremely quickly.

After moving I have 2 characters above 40 already, epics to 7th step, and champion quests to Chapter 2. My zerker is 47 and quite a few ML group steps done. I am not always able to play either.

I thought like you 4 months ago Kinag but I was wrong. Seriously it is not that hard and you can protect yourself from all this negative feeling and whine. It really is the sensible option when you have people who quite literally 'don't give a shit' (As Kagato himself said).

I'd love to roll on Avalon again, but I wouldn't be able to level as I basically can't stand it, I'm bored as hell in pve as it's not exciting at all.

If I were to roll on Avalon again I'd have to have access to a L50 character I could PL with :p

But I've quit so.. :p
 

Sharkith

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Sigwyen said:
Well shark not all can just move and start over .. not all speak german or french or have the time to lvl to 50 get cl's get ml's get toa'd etc ...

Its cool some have that possibility but thats not an option for all

regarding the albabies snatching relic back I DONT CARE ... i hate all albabies they are red and should be dead

They can take the relics at what hour suit there skills the best....
Ofc midg will do it at our will when ever we want to

/Mirk

Hi Mirk,

I have no clue about any other language and I swore blind I could not move 3 months ago. I have now moved and I am delighted with the prospects of RvR where I am. What I am trying to say to you is that it is actually a very real possibility.

It might seem impossible but if things are getting that bad here - just move. There are threads in the other servers section telling you who is where. Seriously when a server is full primetime you can get groups dead easy and you have that friendly community feeling you don't have here.

Lets face it - most of the dicks here don't care if you stay or go so why not go for it and have the game you pay for?

- it makes sense you know it does!

Sharkith
 

Awarkle

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damn and there was me going to be starting my cat hearding turd polishing business in the next few weeks :D

its a shame that folks dont want to experience aspects of the game that was designed in.

OK seiges arnt the most fun in the world to some people but some might have enjoyed taking the relics back or fighting mids with extra power. Instead a few have ruined that for them.

There isnt anything in the game rules that state that relics have to remain static but if folks start doing night time raiding then the other realms might start doing the same. Taking away some aspect of the game that folks find fun.

I dont think we should get into this whole rr ac just relic raid when you want to if thats at silly oclock then so be it. But shouldnt really complain about every single ac raid. Some folks may work different shifts some people may be up in the middle of the night.
 

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