And again.. :/

[amazingsteve]

true, we tried takign the keep half an hour before, but no rams, a hard door and mids spoiled the party so we retreated Was still fun though, when mids chased a few hibs down the road and we flanked them with 1fg \o/ made about 3k RPs in that single fight

 

[nuky]

and the hibs didnt use any third party programme at all to organise the raid? it was all done in ingame chat? tbh saying that exe shouting this on IRC was wrong is complete bs. its like saying if the iraqi's had attacked an american camp during the night, half the soldiers were sleeping, the ones awake shouldnt wake them up because they need their beauty sleep.

spying sucks yes, calling for help in the middle of a RR- well if we didnt do that we would just be quite retarded


EDIT: oh and i phoned a rl mate of mine and told him to get on and defend gralla too

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by nuky
and the hibs didnt use any third party programme at all to organise the raid? it was all done in ingame chat? tbh saying that exe shouting this on IRC was wrong is complete bs. its like saying if the iraqi's had attacked an american camp during the night, half the soldiers were sleeping, the ones awake shouldnt wake them up because they need their beauty sleep.

spying sucks yes, calling for help in the middle of a RR- well if we didnt do that we would just be quite retarded


EDIT: oh and i phoned a rl mate of mine and told him to get on and defend gralla too

So it was also ok then Tinky2 or what it was, told albs of mids raid? o.0

RR blabbing is wrong, but unnavoidable, leave it ffs, it doesn't matter and in this case didn't matter one bit, the raid had failed anyway, and it was other matters that made it such.


Xorta we did get to the RK unnanounced so don't say stuff you don't know, and lucky me, I wen't ld infront of a 125 big hib force 1 minutes walk from Grallahorn such good leadership imho.

 

[nuky]

Originally posted by Edlina
So it was also ok then Tinky2 or what it was, told albs of mids raid? o.0

if u read again: spying sucks yes, calling for help in the MIDDLE of a RR- well if we didnt do that we would just be quite retarded

tinky2 blabbed over an hour before - in the MIDDLE of a RR - how anyone can say its wrong is beyond me

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by nuky
if u read again: spying sucks yes, calling for help in the MIDDLE of a RR- well if we didnt do that we would just be quite retarded

tinky2 blabbed over an hour before - in the MIDDLE of a RR - how anyone can say its wrong is beyond me

Because it's against the CoC... MAYBE?

Using a third party program for in game communications is wrong, Tinky2 might have done a worse thing, but basicly it was the same thing, ie. babbling about a RR on irc, no matter when during the progress of the raid.

 

[Mavl]

rofl n1

 

[Cami]

Originally posted by Edlina
Because it's against the CoC... MAYBE?

Using a third party program for in game communications is wrong, Tinky2 might have done a worse thing, but basicly it was the same thing, ie. babbling about a RR on irc, no matter when during the progress of the raid.

Was just about to say that... nerf :|

 

[DocWolfe]

tbh I think that the 'tards saying fuck off and die etc. are worse than the people who actually commited the offence.

 

[tildson]

If all mids already knew this why did you bother posting it on IRC? Bad excuses, you really should apologize Exe.

 

[nuky]

Originally posted by Edlina
Because it's against the CoC... MAYBE?

Using a third party program for in game communications is wrong, Tinky2 might have done a worse thing, but basicly it was the same thing, ie. babbling about a RR on irc, no matter when during the progress of the raid.

i should really read that again.


but then it comes back to the point someone else brought up, about people using ICQ/MSN/Forums - phones (?) to tell other people. i can almost gaurantee everyone has done it, probably u urself, only its not so public and on a smaller scale.

I am going to kill me out of this arguement btw, digging a hole i will never be able to get out off

 

[Edlina]

So true, but I'm not here to flame you for your opinion, just to try to explain why it is 98% of the playing population hates blabbers on irc and how it can ruin a game (and spoil the fun for a lot of people playing)

What was done was done, it can't be undone, it didn't matter very much in this case but it's the principle of it, and it could potentially (sp?) ruin the fun for a lot of people spying or no spying, telling on irc is the same no matter when you do it, and there is nothing that can excuse it. An apology would be nice, but tbh all I could ever wish for, is people wouldn't do it at the next raid, it might make it more fair it was a raid against your realm, but it's the same for all realms no difference made.

 

[-foadon-]

Originally posted by old.Cher
also just a small question,,,,,, but how was there a defense force at bled when we are 3fgs arrived to take it......

just seemed strange that the first thing i saw at bled when it was scouted was at least a fg of mids there defending already.

please let me know how u knew we would be going there!

id say blame me camping hpk when 5+fg sprung out and zerged me ;p

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by -foadon-
id say blame me camping hpk when 5+fg sprung out and zerged me ;p

Rather unlikely, never had 5fg moving together (except after bled) had 4fgs together once, but I was leading them and we didn't meet anyone.

 

[Xeanor]

he can't pbae farm as easy when he loses relics so he tries to do whatever he can to keep them

end of story

 

[Shike]

heh

I fail to see the "right" in talkin, calling to arms or wtf ever about RRs on IRC at all. Any talk about it before it and during it on IRC is just simply wrong imho. Reason, there are loads of people that just idle inthere, maybe they arent ingame, maybe they are watching porn, maybe they are readin a book or something else, it can affect a relicraid, maybe it didnt this time, but maybe it will affect next one? And would mids really be happy about it if I in the middle of a midRR would say on IRC; ALBIES MOVE TO EXCAL FFS !!!!!!! I think not, hypocrits is what you are if you agree to what Exe did.

uke:

oh and ev0.. errr , are u 3 years old and think people are stupid or something? What you did was even sillier than what Exe did tbh. Shame on you.

 

[Kerram Darktyde]

never have and never will use IRC, you are not going to stop people using it and other methods of out of game comms.

Spys should be banned
People who tell mates a raid is under way well they dont deserve to be banned, it is stupid thing to say in such a place as it also alerts the 3rd realm making everthing more confusing and risks getting even more enemy at RK etc etc.

 

[kherny]

Originally posted by opoc
What an idiot....this is a game, have fun and why go to such lengths just to spoil it?

Even if its after the RR started and you found out ingame you shouldnt be using 3rd part programs to spread the word....

Agree.

Originally posted by old.spug
I hate to be the one to say this, but unfortuately idiots on IRC are a factor to take into consideration now when organsing RR's... 99% of the time it cant be avoided, but misinformation can help a lot... arrange a raid, give the wrong time to people, ask them to be there an hour in advance and leave early...

lots of ways to combat it, but it's always lurking there...

Agree.

and ultimately..

Originally posted by tildson
If all mids already knew this why did you bother posting it on IRC? Bad excuses

 

[Qte Eth]

well nice rule that is
"Using a third party program for in game communications is wrong"

so each time dragon raid ,tg,galla or some other raid is announced on BW or somewhere else,or is setup in some motd on some channel its against CoC?
and what are u doing here now ,if not using 3rd party programs for ingame communication?~

and please dont fail to see difference in spying for enemy,giving them information none of their realm can have ,and calling for help in the midle of rr when like 200+ ingame ppl already know about it

and as i see most hibs agree that nothing changed by that message,coz RR cant be succesfull if no rams are set up
so they just whine coz they whine
and i am quite sure none of mids who saw that message actually managed to get to relic soon enuff to see single hib there

and lol@ some stupid posts i saw here ,mainly from our dear albs

 

[Galewyr Dark]

actually i think most of the stupid posts r from mids....theres evena mid calling the middy stance wrong..what does that tell you.


-Gale


ps- don't play alb anymore

 

[mid_Efour]

haww hawww mids kept the relics and u hibbys got slayed like n00bs haw haww

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by Galewyr Dark
actually i think most of the stupid posts r from mids....theres evena mid calling the middy stance wrong..what does that tell you.

That most of us have cummon sence ???? I'm quit sure you have silly peopel in your realm too...btw if you cant see the diff between having 2 accounts each based in diff realms on the same server, and using one of em for spying/telling about a RR premature, and telling fellow realm mates about a RR that is already in progress.. Well then frankly you need professional help.. I would recommend several sessions of public flogging with an electric eel

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by mid_Efour
haww hawww mids kept the relics and u hibbys got slayed like n00bs haw haww

ewul mids

Damon, there is a difference yes, but basicly it's the same and it's not like you get a shorter imprisonment for shooting someone than from kicking and punching him until he dies, even if the first one causes less suffering for the victim.

It doesn't make it "more right" Exe first said something after most of the mids ingame already knew.

 

[Damon_D]

Sooo it makes a diff..but then again it does not...I see....no realy I do..I'm not quit sure what it is I'm seeing but..its clearly there..somewhere..distant...

 

[Qte Eth]

totally spoil RR
dont affect RR at all

"but basicly it's the same"

or tell me how did this message affect this RR ok?

coz first message cancelled planned RR

 

[Damon_D]

Qte Eth I think we wasting our time here..even ill fitted sarcasm does not bite on these... Maybe we should try with the jaws of life ???

 

[Yussef]

For gods sake, its against the channel rules, I don't give a shit if you think its right or not. Keep it out of god damn #daoc.prydwen.

Thank you.

 

[Damon_D]

I'm not saying its right..I said that in the very first post..but to say its the same is not correct..I allso said that I wish irc would go bye bye..thats kinda not gonna happen either is it ??
Common sence is the key here..I'm sure some of you have heard of it..But not all have a clear graps of it..sooo so long there are irc channels there will be fekkers who use em for stuff like this... sad..yes..much we can do about it..not atm it seem's..Ofcourse you can ban the peopel everytime..but as fare as I'm informed ( and nope I dont use irc ) they will just created a new account..or am I wrong ??

 

[Edlina]

It's the same thing, blabb about a RR on irc, wether you do it before or under the raid it's both wrong, it doesn't make it better that it first was said during the raid it's the same fellony (sp?) no matter when you convict it.

Even though it didn't make a difference for the raid, that's no excuse and doesn't make it 1 tiny bit better.

 

[Piojo]

whine whine whine jesus this forum is full of fucking retards.

 

[Xeanor]

IRC is actually a great online network

just that the daoc channels suck ass

like #daoc.prydwen, its just complete bullshit and whines all day, that's why you won't see me in there

still don't understand why people actually use that channel

but that's just my opinion, and it usually differs from others, i think