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talivarevil
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lol u beat me 1 while u even admit i was distracted 
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karlophin
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Originally posted by kinadold
It has been know for long time that a pure tank class allways lose
to a stealther class in 1on1, that is if the tank stays around
Thats crap mate,
I own stealthers hands down if there not buffed to high heaven.
A fight at amg in emain the other day for example. I killed a blue con polearm user whilst his lvl50 infil mate was attacking me. Turned round and owned the infil on like 3 hits, fair enough I was using triple wield and I did have to IP near the end. But I still won and was on close to 100% health after killing the infil and IP'ing anyways.
Must be cause Blademaster are uber
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old.Odysseus
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Lol karlo.
Had the infil used his brain he could have run away, stealthed, kept coming at you with PA till you either fled or died.
The infils problem was that he went into tincan-head-on mode and tried to out-tank you.
Out-tanking a tank is NOT something to try in leatherarmor (or studded for that matter).
Problem with that tactics is that theres always more than 2 ppl around - especially in emain.
Had the infil used his brain he could have run away, stealthed, kept coming at you with PA till you either fled or died.
The infils problem was that he went into tincan-head-on mode and tried to out-tank you.
Out-tanking a tank is NOT something to try in leatherarmor (or studded for that matter).
Problem with that tactics is that theres always more than 2 ppl around - especially in emain.
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karlophin
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Yeah,
I agree there and it caused me a few chuckles I have to say.
But even so, Im still persistant on the fact that Blademasters are desinged as stealth killers
Give me see hidden!!!! hehe
I agree there and it caused me a few chuckles I have to say.
But even so, Im still persistant on the fact that Blademasters are desinged as stealth killers
Give me see hidden!!!! hehe
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kinadold
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There is nothing a tank class without snare/stun can do to the
hit and run thing. But then his allso fighting on the stealthers
term and thats generally a bad thing.
But a well timed purge and a slam might keep that pesky
assasin in range tho
Against a minstrel the immunity timers on stuns might be used,
and his stun purged when he tries to flee.
Against an archer no chance, but an archer cant kill a tank class
unless he stays.
hit and run thing. But then his allso fighting on the stealthers
term and thats generally a bad thing.
But a well timed purge and a slam might keep that pesky
assasin in range tho
Against a minstrel the immunity timers on stuns might be used,
and his stun purged when he tries to flee.
Against an archer no chance, but an archer cant kill a tank class
unless he stays.
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talivarevil
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/stick/tri/attack/sprint and hope hes dead before hes 2 far to hit
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karlophin
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Nope, I agree
If a stealther runs from me Im not gonna persue him, its stupid.
Thats if hes passed the hitting mark as talivar says above though.
If a stealther runs from me Im not gonna persue him, its stupid.
Thats if hes passed the hitting mark as talivar says above though.
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hotrat
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I had a quick look for this change in all the 1.54 patch notes on camelot herald and can't see it, anyone got a link?
It can't be true, minstrel have been nerfed enough what with purge, see hidden, determination...
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Noche
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Lol @ skills
Buff bot > skill (when I got u with Omega u fought him, just plain melee with dds he moosed and still damn close to die, and sorry but that´s not skill involved at all)
Sorry but if using a couple of bloody styles and dd x 2 (or one if there is one no stealthed stealther to prevent him from stealthing) + mez, stunning at last of battle to make sure is not some serious skill... this game involved few skills anyway.
And no not owned by him recently, last time Alpha got me was when I fought a mid.
Found Fast last time in DL, he died without dropping a single buff, and he killed 4 hibbies in a row (yeah not yellow con I know because mincers rn´t supposed to be harder than heros moosed). Now that deserves some WD dude.
If u don´t notice it, I hate buff bots
Buff bot > skill (when I got u with Omega u fought him, just plain melee with dds he moosed and still damn close to die, and sorry but that´s not skill involved at all)
Sorry but if using a couple of bloody styles and dd x 2 (or one if there is one no stealthed stealther to prevent him from stealthing) + mez, stunning at last of battle to make sure is not some serious skill... this game involved few skills anyway.
And no not owned by him recently, last time Alpha got me was when I fought a mid.
Found Fast last time in DL, he died without dropping a single buff, and he killed 4 hibbies in a row (yeah not yellow con I know because mincers rn´t supposed to be harder than heros moosed). Now that deserves some WD dude.
If u don´t notice it, I hate buff bots
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old.Tzeentch
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wow
first you demonstrate your hypocrisy, and now you resort to lying to try and hide it
fact: I was at the front with tomask when the albs came - you can ask tomask this
other side of sauvage?
how the fuck do you think you got there?
your dad bought the speed song for you?
and wtf, you ran at the fucking first sight of the albs you chicken shit cunt
we had 2fg running around sauvage also, we didn't need ur mad 'hey guys lets hide in the bugged tree and use exploits' to find a rez..
and wtf are you talking about 'other 6' ?
<=== noob?
lol.
i always thought it was the rezzers job to run, not the level 50 hero in epic armour.
fucking rp leech.
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1Jesta
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/me gets popcorn
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old.Tzeentch
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that'll be £2
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Juanita
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It's in the 1.54G patch notes.
Excuse me while i weep for the poor minstrels with speed 5, SoS and stealth...
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old.anubis
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well, using this tactics even bards kill zerks ^^
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=38839885
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=38839885
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False
mythic knows if they took away that from a minstrel many minstrels would stop playing
""Excuse me while i weep for the poor minstrels with speed 5, SoS and stealth..."""
Bards have speed 5 . they get AE INSTA mezz next patch and they can heal !! insta mezz is better than running mezz , minstrel run mezz is single target, u can speed 5 behind a FULL group and insta mezz them all . and our stealth is uber
nobody can see us if they are close as somebody said above with all the resists/purges and other likewise ra's dd's and stuns and mezz's from a mins aint wat they used to be .
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Tigerius
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If you think this is a Minstrel FIX then hell yeah I'll be awaiting the bard "fix" too. It's needed.
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Kagato.
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Must admit, as a pure tank I hate people running away too, but thats why every other style I use is a snare type.
Very well fought that Alpha.
Very well fought that Alpha.
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thebinarysurfer
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Wouldnt say i like alpha but he knows his stuff. Expecting a minstrel to go toe to toe with a hero with IP and moose ready to burn is just plain silly.
Incidentally stop whining about bard becoming overpowered. Was a time when hib classes were a joke. Nice to see them finally being brought up to speed (no pun intended). Maybe it'll unbalance things maybe not - but this game will never be totally balanced anyways - quit the whining.
Incidentally stop whining about bard becoming overpowered. Was a time when hib classes were a joke. Nice to see them finally being brought up to speed (no pun intended). Maybe it'll unbalance things maybe not - but this game will never be totally balanced anyways - quit the whining.
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dazam
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My hat is Off to alpha for beating me i have cooled down since last night i must accept defeat and admire ur tactics of Survival I was wrong... as For the Sauvage incident u were ded before they even reached tomask u were ded Through ur own foolishness I was mezzed an by the time They cam for me all 3 of u were dead Ask Iphis he also agrees Cause we were talking about it after it happend
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old.Tzeentch
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i was dead before they reached tomask cus i am a bard holding a fucking instrument and we were mezzed
you really dont know much about rvr do you?
it's pretty hard to stop 2 minstrels from mezzing you when you just saw them.. my own foolishness?
fucking newbie
you really dont know much about rvr do you?
it's pretty hard to stop 2 minstrels from mezzing you when you just saw them.. my own foolishness?
fucking newbie
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Noche
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Till the day Alpha dies at DL without dropping any buffs (doesn´t count LD --> rec) I can´t really show any respect, sorry dude.
Ppl haven´t seen how he meleed down a moosed hero buff-less without IP, was simple silly, and NO, that´s not skill involved, it´s pure melee. Being able to hit harder than me (twice harder) it´s np, but with same wpn (which is SLOW wpn in alb) hitting FASTER than me (lurikeen NS with less than 3.0 spd wpn) that´s not skill.
Kite = skill, plain melee vs a 2h hero moosed and almost winning (I had to join to kill and prevent him using IP) is not wot I call skill.
Ppl haven´t seen how he meleed down a moosed hero buff-less without IP, was simple silly, and NO, that´s not skill involved, it´s pure melee. Being able to hit harder than me (twice harder) it´s np, but with same wpn (which is SLOW wpn in alb) hitting FASTER than me (lurikeen NS with less than 3.0 spd wpn) that´s not skill.
Kite = skill, plain melee vs a 2h hero moosed and almost winning (I had to join to kill and prevent him using IP) is not wot I call skill.
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Jiggs
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yeah no more minstrels thats a bad nerf
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Jiggs
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"Changes in 1.54G:
Fixed issues with Mesmerize - under certain situations if cast on a player, the casting player would not be put into combat mode."
its not obvious at first sight but this essentially is the death knell of that once fine class the minstrel
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off topic
Teza 50 Skald Excalibur
Tezaa 50 Enchanter Andred
Teza 50 Ranger Nimue
Bubuss 50 Sorcerer Igraine
OMFG
ps: nice to c yah again
Teza 50 Skald Excalibur
Tezaa 50 Enchanter Andred
Teza 50 Ranger Nimue
Bubuss 50 Sorcerer Igraine
OMFG
ps: nice to c yah again
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heya lofff, long time ago hehe .Playing a bit my skald till euro pvp becomes live,hope to see u on bg here or next pvp server .
.Playing a bit my skald till euro pvp becomes live,hope to see u on bg here or next pvp server .
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btw alpha, usually theres always a fugging stabber or sth to finish a good 1on1, last time there wasnt... u got me with 30% hp left... (after ips fas and stuff... preety nice fight ) BUT FUGGING HELL! I BURNED ALL MY END ON UR BLOCKS AND EVADES! fugging lucky git
Next time we get a good 1on1 i might drop u... (lucky perv)
What makes me think is: How will it b when i get my selfbuff and u respec gromit to fullybuffer? sth makes me think i wont b even close anymore
ps: tzee is ELITE! (or sth, ufff xD)
) BUT FUGGING HELL! I BURNED ALL MY END ON UR BLOCKS AND EVADES! fugging lucky git Next time we get a good 1on1 i might drop u... (lucky perv)
What makes me think is: How will it b when i get my selfbuff and u respec gromit to fullybuffer?
sth makes me think i wont b even close anymore ps: tzee is ELITE! (or sth, ufff xD)
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lofff
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Originally posted by Old_Teza
heya lofff, long time ago hehe
Actually lofff has been long on vacation
alting etc - btw u KEELED my bard and daighs' hero a week ago (bard was 35sh and hero 42sh) and fugging hell it reminded me the old times We were just giving a noob run to emain... kinda suiciding.cya on pvp i hope altho i wont play that much there
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hotrat
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Well sometimes when i play mezz i get a few secs of speed before combat tics in, which sometimes allows me to mezz a 2nd person who is running away, cant see it as a major nerf (compared to other RA's).
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old.Tomask Writus
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looool , yeah dont think i saw a hero run that fast and i dont think tzeen had enough time to react to two minstrels desstealthing then mezzing at about point blank range .... not to mention the sorc as well.
For me wasnt much point running just prolonges your death in that situation so i died in a nice visable spot got a rez
and i dont think tzeen had enough time to react to two minstrels desstealthing then mezzing at about point blank range .... not to mention the sorc as well. For me wasnt much point running just prolonges your death in that situation so i died in a nice visable spot got a rez
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hahaahahahahahah @ whine
I bet Alpha kicks on every whinepost , so go on!
I bet Alpha kicks on every whinepost , so go on!