Alliance

[sopan]

Hi

Just read the rvr-forum and I have been thinking in the same terms as another middie has. We gotta make a new alliance with the few players we got left. We cant accomplish anything with 20 different alliances.

So pls someone that have the spirit to try to get us mids together again, start making a new one and lets get our relics back.

 

[Arepa]

Hi

Just read the rvr-forum and I have been thinking in the same terms as another middie has. We gotta make a new alliance with the few players we got left. We cant accomplish anything with 20 different alliances.

So pls someone that have the spirit to try to get us mids together again, start making a new one and lets get our relics back.

Take your diabolic trio and serg it back

Batman Robin and Catwoman.

 

[Adficio]

Well the tries to build a new "active" alliance, been many from diff parts.
However must alliances "even" those who are like half dead refuse to se the light.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Its not just alliances, its guilds too, way too many out there because people like to play their own little god, rather than joining extablished active guilds.

 

[vavires]

But, an new alliance could work tho.

We can try set something up.

I got the leaders of the biggest alliances on paper here.
If we can get the together, Maybe talk about Forming a new special name for the new alliance, Who knows, this could actually be very nice, but there will have to be talks about it.

 

[Haldar]

good idea.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Its not a problem only focused on alliances...it is many times a guild problem too; as some1 else correctly stated before.

 

[Jarroman]

a sidenote to all these, lots of guilds where created pre cluster just for claiming purposes which ofc shouldn't be needed atm

ofc it is guild problems, alliance = guilds , guilds have ups and downs, the thing is to pick those guilds that have less chances to brake up, or at least, have a decent stadard number of players all this time. guild rps should be quite secondary criteria tbh

 

[old.Eyez]

the problem is the alliance and spirit from the players to gather up and do something together imo

i think an active alliance with the active guilds would help midgard a lot in these days.. we just need an alliance like FoM used to be when FoM was active and had a good leader

 

[old.Whoodoo]

I still say its not an alliance we need, its to fill out the larger guilds from the small ones.

Some of the larger guilds are getting low on BPs to hold keeps and towers, the smaller guilds can only maintain them for so long, so why not merge into the larger ones to pool all the resources.

Then the larger alliances will then adopt these larger guilds, as normally they wont give a second look at small guilds who are not as active, or who dont offer any benefit to the alliance as a whole.

Take a look at the most active guilds on pryd and excal, the lower end of the range making 100K a week cant be making enough BPs to support keeps and towers.

 

[vavires]

I still say its not an alliance we need, its to fill out the larger guilds from the small ones.

Some of the larger guilds are getting low on BPs to hold keeps and towers, the smaller guilds can only maintain them for so long, so why not merge into the larger ones to pool all the resources.

Then the larger alliances will then adopt these larger guilds, as normally they wont give a second look at small guilds who are not as active, or who dont offer any benefit to the alliance as a whole.

Take a look at the most active guilds on pryd and excal, the lower end of the range making 100K a week cant be making enough BPs to support keeps and towers.

you need both, bigger guils and 1 United Alliance would so rock.

 

[gohan]

can i be supreme overlord?

 

[old.Eyez]

then make a new alliance, with the big active guilds and kick the inactive guilds.. and then if there still are some rvr guilds around let them get a spot to fill the alliance

 

[Aeris]

Well DC are kinda active, bit slack atm cos of the summer but we would like our alliance (fedaykin) to be bigger than it currently is, or at least have more rvr orientated stuff in there

so yeah up for owt here

 

[Konstantin]

good ide my liddul sopa!

 

[old.Eyez]

good ide my liddul sopa!

think he got the idea from my reply on the rvr forum

 

[sopan]

Hi again

All I see is talk! we need to get things started and a alliance with a leader who really enjoys being one.

The first step must be to get a alliance that is active.

To merge all small guilds are as I see it a mistake. Many of the small guilds can and are holding towers atm. That is a must!!

But even as we are writing there are still unclaimed towers out there.
I know we dont have anything to defend but it has been and will still be a problem to keep all we need claimed if we merge all small guilds. And to let em be out of the alliance? Think many of the smaller guilds have alot to contribute with so I dont understand why they shouldnt be involved. Cause that is just the problem atm. Alot of ppl think and want to do so nasty stuff to our rp cows outthere but the problem is that we cant get all on the boat.

So get Val or whoever who got the stamina and patiance for the work to start a new alliance and dont shut ppl our due to the fact that they are small guilds.

I was very surprised and glad to see that there was some good intentions the other night and hope u keep up with em :worthy:

 

[vavires]

Hi again

All I see is talk! we need to get things started and a alliance with a leader who really enjoys being one.

The first step must be to get a alliance that is active.

To merge all small guilds are as I see it a mistake. Many of the small guilds can and are holding towers atm. That is a must!!

But even as we are writing there are still unclaimed towers out there.
I know we dont have anything to defend but it has been and will still be a problem to keep all we need claimed if we merge all small guilds. And to let em be out of the alliance? Think many of the smaller guilds have alot to contribute with so I dont understand why they shouldnt be involved. Cause that is just the problem atm. Alot of ppl think and want to do so nasty stuff to our rp cows outthere but the problem is that we cant get all on the boat.

So get Val or whoever who got the stamina and patiance for the work to start a new alliance and dont shut ppl our due to the fact that they are small guilds.

I was very surprised and glad to see that there was some good intentions the other night and hope u keep up with em :worthy:

Val= Vav?

I wanne try it yes, but i wont be in game the first hours.

 

[old.Eyez]

Val= Vav?

I wanne try it yes, but i wont be in game the first hours.

Gl tell me if u could use a helping hand controlling the mids.. i will self be in a little danish rvr guild soon.. but will be with the concept to help the realm ofc :worthy:

 

[Aerendur]

I think the first step is to always have a RVR BG up and running. Wether you are in the same alliance or not, everyone can join that to read whats going on and get involved.

An alliance isnt that easy to start. And there are many different views on what should be allowed and what not, if it truly will become a big alliance, then rules are even more important.

 

[Mas]

/as WTS belt of sun 1p!!!!

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Well, Savage Conclave is open for new members.

 

[Framer]

now IF (notis the big IF) we are going to merge the alliance I wold like to se a leader that got a long time experience of leading.... some one that have been around from day one and for that I have a few ppl in mind. I wont mention these ppl becors this is more or less grabed from the air but then again these ppl are well uset to leading everything from small xp grps up to big scale ml runs.

But here is the reson to the IF part... I really do not think that merging everything and every one togheter will do much good becors that will be the same like stacking wood on each other, I mean it wold be like geting all the negativ spirit and merge it into one big pile of shit really ...

what need to be done is leave the alliance and guilds like it is for now sure can merge all the smaller alliances into bigger ones but we shall not start merging guilds with other guilds just to fit more ppl into a alliance, that is a great way to get problems, ppl not liking each other and so on is a great way to get even more chaos...

What need to be done is to get a leader figur some one that every one can rally behind and follow with out to much asking why and why not ...
some one that got the time to plan rvr raids and rvr attacks on the enemys...
And that this person is in charge of a own BG were he informs about ideas and plans he got going for the evening , if there are any majo events coming up like RR or so on.. then every one is free to join in on what they want and get the latest info they need...
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But giving this heavy task to one person is more or less impossibel I mean we cant get one person nail him down infront of his computer 24/7 and force him to lead us... so I sugest we get one main leader fellow and a seckond in command for him and maby even a third leader that can cover the shifts the other two leaders not are around but for this to work these leaders really need to get along and work togheter...

but well that is my idea of what needs to be done

 

[Vonwar]

now IF (notis the big IF) we are going to merge the alliance I wold like to se a leader that got a long time experience of leading.... some one that have been around from day one and for that I have a few ppl in mind. I wont mention these ppl becors this is more or less grabed from the air but then again these ppl are well uset to leading everything from small xp grps up to big scale ml runs.

But here is the reson to the IF part... I really do not think that merging everything and every one togheter will do much good becors that will be the same like stacking wood on each other, I mean it wold be like geting all the negativ spirit and merge it into one big pile of shit really ...

what need to be done is leave the alliance and guilds like it is for now sure can merge all the smaller alliances into bigger ones but we shall not start merging guilds with other guilds just to fit more ppl into a alliance, that is a great way to get problems, ppl not liking each other and so on is a great way to get even more chaos...

What need to be done is to get a leader figur some one that every one can rally behind and follow with out to much asking why and why not ...
some one that got the time to plan rvr raids and rvr attacks on the enemys...
And that this person is in charge of a own BG were he informs about ideas and plans he got going for the evening , if there are any majo events coming up like RR or so on.. then every one is free to join in on what they want and get the latest info they need...
´
But giving this heavy task to one person is more or less impossibel I mean we cant get one person nail him down infront of his computer 24/7 and force him to lead us... so I sugest we get one main leader fellow and a seckond in command for him and maby even a third leader that can cover the shifts the other two leaders not are around but for this to work these leaders really need to get along and work togheter...

but well that is my idea of what needs to be done

Very good idea Framer, we have had that kind of management in The Fedaykin Alliance a while ago.

Gustav + Ovron + Runardigi was the triumvirate. It worked very good, because first of all, the 3 could talk and work together, and second of all, we felt as guildmasters/members that the management of the Alliance, was doing some activities several times a week.

If we only have one person to lead the alliance he will be worn down in no time. If we on the other hand have 3 they can supplement eachother all the time, and we will get more action, raids, rvr bg etc.

We have been in New Era since ppl started to break alliance chat rules in our old alliance, so a set of rules is needed too.

Best regards

Vonwar
Guildmaster of Danish Huscarls.

 

[Namefake]

the problem here will be to find the leaders, everyone got some nice friends that they want to see on the "throne", get some proposals, make a poll vote for it here or something and lets go for it, if it doesnt work, we try again.

maybe using a poll vote can be a bit dumb, maybe someone else can contribute with something.

also, leading normal PVE raids, is NOT the same as leading a realm in RVR, i also know how the mobs in pve will react on an encounter, but not how albs/hibs will respond on an attack, we need an openminded leader that aint complaining on AFKers, with strict decisions once he has decided what to do.

 

[Framer]

Yeah I agree with that but problem is to get the info from here to well the fellows in the alliances.. we need to call for a major meeting with all the alliance leaders first to let them talk this over then ones they agree to get along with this idea or to scrap we can start talking what ppl that migth be geting up and lead but first we have a "few" mids to get along with this idea... and there I think the major problem is

 

[Jarroman]

pvp leadership is a nasty thing, and as stated above very very much different than ml leadings etc...

take chronic for example, excellent ml leader, but when it came to rvr events ... well ... if ardamel hadn't been on that afternoon some months ago, i doubt his leading would manage us take 1 keep.

we also need a leader that doesn't think lame tactics and ac raids as option

and last but not least, don't fool yourselves... a leader of this kind comes out of natural - in game selection. u can't force one to lead or force yourselves to be leaders , cause if u do so, you are bound to fail.

 

[Framer]

I have to agree with you jarroman but we still need to wake this topic up in game also so every mid out there know what is going on.. I bet that not every mid reads this so we need to find a way to get the info out in a good way

 

[vavires]

After thinking this throug, u cant do it...

An alliance has a guildcap of 20guilds. So unless ppl wanne merge guilds to make 1 strong alliance its not gone happen.

Tho, i still urge ppl to leave small alliances and join bigger once, and merge smaller guilds to bigger guilds (i left my own made guild to join eotr as well).

Ppl are also exaggerating on the leader subject, We dont need a king/president in midgard, we need to learn to work together, there are ppl that do the job leading a bg better then others, but if the ppl in it dont listen u are getting nowhere.

Teamwork + motivation = Strong united realm.

vav.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

At some point every alliance needs to consider 'Do we want to grow?' - New Era is currently full, as far as I know. Some of the guilds in the alliance are tiny, and a few are completely dead.

It has already been decided that if we get a request from a larger, active guild, the dead wood will be cut. At some point that will include the tiny guilds - though it would be preferably if people would just merge up the tiny ones into one larger one and free up the slots.

My suggestion would be to join the guild with the most realmpoints - and keep an alt in the old guild so you can still use the stored bounty points in it for tower claiming.