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TeslaUK
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Ok, firstly, hi to you all, and yes I know all realms read this. I would also like to say to those reading this that this is likely to be a long post, and if you don;t wish to read it all , stop now. also, to the usual flamers, I expect it, and will ignore it. I do however wish response, both positive and negative, and hopefully between us all, I hope to understand why Albs do not do as well as can be in the BG. I will not comment on RvR as I have much xperience on the US servers, but not over here. Also, to note, this is not meant to be a flame in anyway , shape or form, and neither is it a criticism, i am stating the way I have seen things since my return only, and offer my view on how we can help each other and hopefully improve maters for ourselves.
Secondly, I am posting this for a few reasons :-
I started out in DAoC on this server (Excal), when it first became available over here. I used to post on GOA's forums (which were taken away) and that, among other reasons, such as the very poor customer support, made me quit the Euro serves and goto the US servers.
Support etc still continues to be far superior over there (imo), in the US. I am back for personal (RL) reasons which I will not go into here. Suffice to say, RL made it not possible to continue playing on the US servers, but I like playing DAoC, therefore here I am.
A quick background on me. I am in a good guild ,The Dragon Fighters. I was in this guild before I left, when it was still young, and continued to stay in contact even when in the US. When I went to the US, obviously I started from scratch. I made my own guild, which is still running , and was very sucessful, and continues to be so. I can still access the game in Bedevere and pop in to say hi using a guild mates buff bot. The only point to this is to emphasize the fact that I have been to 50, run a guild etc. So the fact my highest toon on here is 35, does not mean I know little about the game. I know quite a lot about the game, and how it plays out, have been playing , like I said since it became available over here. So I would like to think I am not a "newbie", or as I once put in on GOA's forums as Dr. Tesla, a "Stupid Newbie(tm)". Maybe some of the longer playing people here will recall those posts. Hopefully they were entertaining
Anyhow, onto what I really wanted to say ( at last) :-
The purpose of this post is to really say how I see Albion from a reasonably fresh perspective coming back from the US, and my ideas on what will hopefully improve the success rate for us in the BG. As you can see from my sig, I have taken a Scout and a Infil, also a Thurg, through BG0, BG1 and BG3, between them, so have expericne in them all of late. My Thurg is currently in BG3 and reasonably close to maxing there, so that is twice through BG3 in recent weeks. During my times in BG0, BG1 and BG3 , this is what I have noticed, more than anything :-
The teamwork from the Albs, is either exceptionally good, or, more often the case, pitiful, borderlining on non-existence. Also, the attendance in BG3 in particular, is poor, from Albs, but when we do get 2FG+ to match the Mids, at the first round of deaths, albs tend to log. This does not seem to be the case for the Mids, who seem to have a pretty committed bunch who will turn up in numbers of a FG+ almost every night.
The attendance to the BG from Hibs is poor to non existent on the whole, with the exception of BG0. I do not know the reasons behind this, having not played a hib, however that is the case in my experience. When the Hibs do actually come out in numbers they do well, however, and I am puzzled why they do not make their presence felt more often. Usually it is AlbsvMids, Mids winning most often in BG3, unless Albs have equal numbers. (more or less). It seems pretty evenly split in BG1 and split moreso between Mids and lbs in BG0 with Hibs ocassionaly sparkling. I have alos noticed that the Hibs on this server tend to be much more present if the own the CK. As soon as they do not their presence is restricted to the odd 1 or two NS, and other solo people. At most the very occasional FG.
I am curious why this is the case, hopefully readers of this forum, from all sides can help answer. I would also like to offer some small ways in which this can improve for us Albs.. Being new to the server I am not overly familiar with the political side of things (so and so guild sucks, dont group with any of them etc, only group with your own guild etc) and frankly have little interest in that sort of thing anyway, finding it all a bit petty, but acknowledge it probably exists as in all servers, and contributes.
With the introduction of the medallions and effectivley a free level, I find this somewhat surprising.
Anwyay , onto my suggestions. I get the impression that Mids, (and even Hibs when they actually manage to stop hugging the trees and attend) already do this, but Albs for the most part do not. /salute to both those realms, it is good to see. Hoepfully albs will manage it more regualrly and give you better fights one day.
1) when you get to a bg, or even when waiting on the pad find out who has the /cg and join it.
2) If no /cg exists, make ONE.
3) If you run the /cg , make it public.
4) When you join the /cg if you wish to get a group...ASK for one.
5) If your the group leader, pay attention to the /cg and recruit those who wish to join your group, or those classes your looking for.
6) USE THE CG. Too often, even when there is a cg it is not used. You don't get shot for using it. People will leave it if it is not active or simply ignore it. Do not SPAM it, but use it in a constructive manner. use it to get a group, and to report enemy positions and other useful info.
7) Four groups of 4 people is not a good thing. ESPECIALLY for Albs who need so many different classes to make a good group equiv to the other realms. Try going for 3 FG of people instead . You will hardly ever get the "perfect" group. However 8 Albs working together is far better than 2 groups of 4, and will 99% of the time do better. Get it on and kick some ass.
8) Leave a bit of your pride behind and follow your group leader. (not neccasarily the guy at the top who can invite). Take it in turns to be the GL to try different styles of leadership, if need be. "next port I would like to try leading" The BG are for practice, after all, for real RvR. So try different things.
9) Don't hassle rezzers. Sure ask for a rezz in /cg. No prob. Nut don't spam it, and don't hassle them. We have to few of them as it is, they do one of the hardest AND most boring jobs in RvR, but we fail without them. Most rezzers (inc Pallys) are happy to do so if they can. ( I said most, not all). give them time to get to you and do their stuff, power is a problem often. (/salute and thanks to the rezzers of our realm.)
10) People play this game to have fun ,and will play the way they want to. Despite all of the above, if you don't want to play that way, kudos to you, do what makes you happy, and have fun. It is just my view on it, and if we all done it , we all would all benefit (imo). If it is not your thing or you disagreee or can improve on these suggestions (AND THEY ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS FOLKS!! ~ if anything I am curious why it is this way here, it isn't generally this way on Bedevere) then put it down here. Most important, for those who MAY agree broadly with this sort of thing, and you see people who dont play this way ~ remember it is up to them entirely...they pay to play the way they wish. I do still believe a few simple things like the above will help for a more successful BG realm however, and the more that help make it so the better..and therefore the more fun to be had by all, even including our honoured enemies who will get a better fight out of it.
Go get the medals folks it really is a great reward. Break up those tedious xp levelling hours with a bit of fun murder, and most of all enjoy yaself!.
Thanks for reading it all if you made it, and thanks for any and all replies, negative and positive, even the flamers, who will help keep this post on the 1st page.
cya soon.
Secondly, I am posting this for a few reasons :-
I started out in DAoC on this server (Excal), when it first became available over here. I used to post on GOA's forums (which were taken away) and that, among other reasons, such as the very poor customer support, made me quit the Euro serves and goto the US servers.
Support etc still continues to be far superior over there (imo), in the US. I am back for personal (RL) reasons which I will not go into here. Suffice to say, RL made it not possible to continue playing on the US servers, but I like playing DAoC, therefore here I am.
A quick background on me. I am in a good guild ,The Dragon Fighters. I was in this guild before I left, when it was still young, and continued to stay in contact even when in the US. When I went to the US, obviously I started from scratch. I made my own guild, which is still running , and was very sucessful, and continues to be so. I can still access the game in Bedevere and pop in to say hi using a guild mates buff bot. The only point to this is to emphasize the fact that I have been to 50, run a guild etc. So the fact my highest toon on here is 35, does not mean I know little about the game. I know quite a lot about the game, and how it plays out, have been playing , like I said since it became available over here. So I would like to think I am not a "newbie", or as I once put in on GOA's forums as Dr. Tesla, a "Stupid Newbie(tm)". Maybe some of the longer playing people here will recall those posts. Hopefully they were entertaining
Anyhow, onto what I really wanted to say ( at last) :-
The purpose of this post is to really say how I see Albion from a reasonably fresh perspective coming back from the US, and my ideas on what will hopefully improve the success rate for us in the BG. As you can see from my sig, I have taken a Scout and a Infil, also a Thurg, through BG0, BG1 and BG3, between them, so have expericne in them all of late. My Thurg is currently in BG3 and reasonably close to maxing there, so that is twice through BG3 in recent weeks. During my times in BG0, BG1 and BG3 , this is what I have noticed, more than anything :-
The teamwork from the Albs, is either exceptionally good, or, more often the case, pitiful, borderlining on non-existence. Also, the attendance in BG3 in particular, is poor, from Albs, but when we do get 2FG+ to match the Mids, at the first round of deaths, albs tend to log. This does not seem to be the case for the Mids, who seem to have a pretty committed bunch who will turn up in numbers of a FG+ almost every night.
The attendance to the BG from Hibs is poor to non existent on the whole, with the exception of BG0. I do not know the reasons behind this, having not played a hib, however that is the case in my experience. When the Hibs do actually come out in numbers they do well, however, and I am puzzled why they do not make their presence felt more often. Usually it is AlbsvMids, Mids winning most often in BG3, unless Albs have equal numbers. (more or less). It seems pretty evenly split in BG1 and split moreso between Mids and lbs in BG0 with Hibs ocassionaly sparkling. I have alos noticed that the Hibs on this server tend to be much more present if the own the CK. As soon as they do not their presence is restricted to the odd 1 or two NS, and other solo people. At most the very occasional FG.
I am curious why this is the case, hopefully readers of this forum, from all sides can help answer. I would also like to offer some small ways in which this can improve for us Albs.. Being new to the server I am not overly familiar with the political side of things (so and so guild sucks, dont group with any of them etc, only group with your own guild etc) and frankly have little interest in that sort of thing anyway, finding it all a bit petty, but acknowledge it probably exists as in all servers, and contributes.
With the introduction of the medallions and effectivley a free level, I find this somewhat surprising.
Anwyay , onto my suggestions. I get the impression that Mids, (and even Hibs when they actually manage to stop hugging the trees and attend) already do this, but Albs for the most part do not. /salute to both those realms, it is good to see. Hoepfully albs will manage it more regualrly and give you better fights one day.
1) when you get to a bg, or even when waiting on the pad find out who has the /cg and join it.
2) If no /cg exists, make ONE.
3) If you run the /cg , make it public.
4) When you join the /cg if you wish to get a group...ASK for one.
5) If your the group leader, pay attention to the /cg and recruit those who wish to join your group, or those classes your looking for.
6) USE THE CG. Too often, even when there is a cg it is not used. You don't get shot for using it. People will leave it if it is not active or simply ignore it. Do not SPAM it, but use it in a constructive manner. use it to get a group, and to report enemy positions and other useful info.
7) Four groups of 4 people is not a good thing. ESPECIALLY for Albs who need so many different classes to make a good group equiv to the other realms. Try going for 3 FG of people instead . You will hardly ever get the "perfect" group. However 8 Albs working together is far better than 2 groups of 4, and will 99% of the time do better. Get it on and kick some ass.
8) Leave a bit of your pride behind and follow your group leader. (not neccasarily the guy at the top who can invite). Take it in turns to be the GL to try different styles of leadership, if need be. "next port I would like to try leading" The BG are for practice, after all, for real RvR. So try different things.
9) Don't hassle rezzers. Sure ask for a rezz in /cg. No prob. Nut don't spam it, and don't hassle them. We have to few of them as it is, they do one of the hardest AND most boring jobs in RvR, but we fail without them. Most rezzers (inc Pallys) are happy to do so if they can. ( I said most, not all). give them time to get to you and do their stuff, power is a problem often. (/salute and thanks to the rezzers of our realm.)
10) People play this game to have fun ,and will play the way they want to. Despite all of the above, if you don't want to play that way, kudos to you, do what makes you happy, and have fun. It is just my view on it, and if we all done it , we all would all benefit (imo). If it is not your thing or you disagreee or can improve on these suggestions (AND THEY ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS FOLKS!! ~ if anything I am curious why it is this way here, it isn't generally this way on Bedevere) then put it down here. Most important, for those who MAY agree broadly with this sort of thing, and you see people who dont play this way ~ remember it is up to them entirely...they pay to play the way they wish. I do still believe a few simple things like the above will help for a more successful BG realm however, and the more that help make it so the better..and therefore the more fun to be had by all, even including our honoured enemies who will get a better fight out of it.
Go get the medals folks it really is a great reward. Break up those tedious xp levelling hours with a bit of fun murder, and most of all enjoy yaself!.
Thanks for reading it all if you made it, and thanks for any and all replies, negative and positive, even the flamers, who will help keep this post on the 1st page.
cya soon.