Albs in NF

[Kinad]

5 min purge = A class need to focus on what it can do when its rooted not mezzed. Removal of mezz as a win button will allow hybrids to perform better.

Friars can fight, bodyguard, grapple, get fast purge, adds vital resists and heal, so compared to current mezz hell i think they will be ok.

 

[Gordonax]

We'll be sticking with teh standard HG group:

Mincer
Smite cleric
Rejuv cleric (only level 44 though)
Body sorc
Scout
Theurgist (air specced)
Armsman (crossbow spec)
Necromancer
Reaver

And of course, as nine people turn up, we'll be moving at tank speed with the mincer afk and running ablative.

 

[Warlock]

Mincer
Smite cleric
Rejuv cleric (only level 44 though)
Body sorc
Scout
Theurgist (air specced)
Armsman (crossbow spec)
Necromancer
Reaver

Feck...
There are no valid tactix to beat this group :worthy:

What are we gonna do ?????

 

[gwal]

i would be soooooooooo supriced if friars ever gonna be a part of a alb gank group ...

2h dam dealer with shitty heals.... they need some godly RA for me to group with a friar in RvR thats for sure...

allso in my exprince having only 1 pbaoer sux.... maybe possible if he is RR10... but as they rarely are 1 is not enough... then rather no paboer

friar is gonna be good, static tempest, zoarkat bracer, bg, grapple, hitting with 2h dont matter much by now due to ppl BGing, not guarding, and the resist buffs are gonna be well needed

1 pbaer can work just fine if used in a fitting grp.. just ask mondane about his runs with us

and theres prolly gonna be a number of decent setups, but most of them will prolly have:
cleric
cleric
friar
mind sorc
theurg

as for last 3 spots.. mebbe body sorc, theurg, cabby, cleric (allowing for a buffshearing focused), paladin, and minstrel will be amongst the considerations.
like.. body sorc, cabby, paladin
or body sorc, cleric, minstrel
some will prolly try and put ice wiz in it to use with static tempest.. so mebbe body sorc, ice wiz, paladin

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

i would be soooooooooo supriced if friars ever gonna be a part of a alb gank group ...

2h dam dealer with shitty heals.... they need some godly RA for me to group with a friar in RvR thats for sure...

as apposed to a duel wielding merc with no heals at all ?

afaik (read a post somewhere) friars out dmge mercs over time (when hit haste) so for the 1st 30seconds of a battle friar > merc when it comes to dmge dealing ... we can heal if rooted and we DO have some nifty ra's to bring to a rvr grp now (static tempest , whirling staff etc etc)

only reason friars didnt get many rvr groups pre-NF was due to NO det ... now with the new purge (i plan on going max purge) 5 min re-use timer . im practically gonna have purge up every fight. so if mezz'd and i purge .. if i then get rooted or snared i can bg/grapple/heal/rez/throw weapon etc whilst rooted. im UNaffected by buff shearing. and can have same usefull arti's as clerics (HE , EOY etc etc for the heals n rez's).

so all in all. imo friars will be a VERY valid (maybe not a MUST) addition in a gank group.

ofc im a tad biased seeing as friar is my main . but im also trying to be neutral with my point of view.

 

[Shangrila]

NF wont make a hugh difference for albs imo, perfect group will be the same one that I encounter most of the time:
12 mages +
10 clerics/friars +
8 palas +
10 random tanks +
roughly 10 stealther adds

;-)

serious. the 5min purge will boost hybrids a lot, so albs would be stupid to not get friars into groups, resists, heals, and strong tank, good combination imo. Static Tempest will be nice as well.

 

[Danya]

light/ment mentalists might start to become more popular in hib with the removal of group purge - you might have to find that "demezz" spell that the other realms use

Ment has always been the better secondary spec for an RvRing light mentalist. Just most people go weak at the knees over the very thought of crack and overlook that it's the only useful spell in mana (unless you're specced 46+).
I'm almost tempted to reactivate and get my ment out for NF, would need a respec back to ment secondary though.

 

[popa]

The future of mids and hibs in NF seems pretty Ok.
But what about albs ?
Anyone thought about this ? How will alb post-NF group look like ?

alb is better on my opinion like :
1 pally
1 sors
1 cleric
rest fiars whit ml8 and group fixed

and 3 or 4 buffbots on back
can take a minstrel too but sors speed ok mids use rune soo...

 

[Fedaykin]

so much focus on friars here - forgetting all about imo albions best hybrid;

The Reaver.

cleric rej/enh
cleric rej/enh
sorc - 46 body/27 mind
theurgist - 40 ice/ 35 earth
Reaver - must spec for 5 min purge
Reaver - must spec for 5 min purge
Paladin - must spec for 5 min purge ml8 battlemaster
Friar - must spec for 5 min purge ml8 battlemaster specced high enhance for top heat resists


not bad imo


rox?

 

[Phule_Gubben]

Mincer (1)
Smite cleric (2)
Rejuv cleric (only level 44 though) (3)
Body sorc (4)
Scout (5)
Theurgist (air specced) (6)
Armsman (crossbow spec) (7)
Necromancer (8)
Reaver (9)

New alb fg in NF consists of 9 players

 

[Tay]

New alb fg in NF consists of 9 players

Please tell me you're J/K or was it a tad subtle?

 

[Gordonax]

New alb fg in NF consists of 9 players

It's the classic HG9 - 9 people turn up for RvR and we're not turning anyone away. Hence we all run at tank speed (or caster speed if the niner is a caster)

 

[Gordonax]

Feck...
There are no valid tactix to beat this group :worthy:

What are we gonna do ?????

We once ran agroup that was something like:

Mincer
Sorc (body)
Cleric (smite)
Theurg
THeurg
Theurg
Theurg
Theurg

- and did ridiculously well, because Hib groups would automatically move into a classic PBAOE box formation and get petted to death. It's always great seeing "perfectly balanced groups" that can only play in one way and, if faced with different, can't handle it

 

[Ilienwyn]

so much focus on friars here - forgetting all about imo albions best hybrid;

The Reaver.

cleric rej/enh
cleric rej/enh
sorc - 46 body/27 mind
theurgist - 40 ice/ 35 earth
Reaver - must spec for 5 min purge
Reaver - must spec for 5 min purge
Paladin - must spec for 5 min purge ml8 battlemaster
Friar - must spec for 5 min purge ml8 battlemaster specced high enhance for top heat resists


not bad imo


rox?

yay, I hope NF will finally get me easier in good groups, or not?

 

[[TB] Benedictine]

Im with Fedaykin on this one - I think reavers will benefit most even if most of it is positional.- better damage, offensive spells, and most importantly, no confusion over the whole 'do i retreat and heal now or later' thing in combat (with accompanying delay break between combat/healing). The 'you cannot cast for 'x' seconds after breaking from combat was a real pain when I was playing no 2 healer in the old TB groups. Another thing - just how many active friars are left?

 

[gwal]

so much focus on friars here - forgetting all about imo albions best hybrid;

The Reaver.

cleric rej/enh
cleric rej/enh
sorc - 46 body/27 mind
theurgist - 40 ice/ 35 earth
Reaver - must spec for 5 min purge
Reaver - must spec for 5 min purge
Paladin - must spec for 5 min purge ml8 battlemaster
Friar - must spec for 5 min purge ml8 battlemaster specced high enhance for top heat resists


not bad imo


rox?

thought bout more tank focused grp as well, but with banelord merc instead of one of the reavers

 

[Phule_Gubben]

Please tell me you're J/K or was it a tad subtle?

ofc it's a joke.

Gordonax!

 

[Filip]

hehe IF friars get a spot in the "fotm" group from alb then i guess we have been though all class's ...

the must have group would have been..

wizz (OOOLDDD times)---> pole arms ----> merc's ----> cabby/body sorc ---> mixed reaver/friar etc...

would have been wonderfull with a group who lastet though the patch's ... at least for better RR's which albs gain slower anyway

 

[Yaehl]

i would be soooooooooo supriced if friars ever gonna be a part of a alb gank group ...

2h dam dealer with shitty heals.... they need some godly RA for me to group with a friar in RvR thats for sure...

allso in my exprince having only 1 pbaoer sux.... maybe possible if he is RR10... but as they rarely are 1 is not enough... then rather no paboer

Filip if u don't have a friar in u team AKA STATIC TEMPEST , then u won't manage to make a roxor team . Some may say BS or not so matter etc etc but i like to be the first in Albion excalibur to say it and see it already ... READ MY WORDS i tell u in the nf future friar for albion with their static tempest ra will be A MUST TO HAVE in a team . U'll see =) u can do sooo many things in a defensive and offensive way in a 8 vs 8 rvr roaming or keep siege etc etc . Friar fortehwin .
FRIAR prepare to have many pms in the near future like io u ml 8 ++ and got static tempest ?? your answer : yes why ? their answer JOIN US PLS . =)))

 

[Glottis]

So retarded, Albion needs another class to compete...
Mythic should remove 33% of the Alb classes, and move the utility to the remaining classes. Then Albion can bring a FG to the battlegrounds and compete.
But knowing Mythic, they would just remove the cleric, sorc and theurg, without doing any utility replacing....
Regards, Glottis

 

[Raven]

you have such a hard life glottis

 

[Jiggs]

ofc friars is the fotm!

 

[Phusion]

i would be soooooooooo supriced if friars ever gonna be a part of a alb gank group ...

2h dam dealer with shitty heals.... they need some godly RA for me to group with a friar in RvR thats for sure...

allso in my exprince having only 1 pbaoer sux.... maybe possible if he is RR10... but as they rarely are 1 is not enough... then rather no paboer

teh friar in NF:

- bodyguard
- grapple
- power leak spam with end reduce buff
- Static tempest 3 (18 sec ae stun, not affected by det)
- high resist buffs, 24%matter/cold/heat cold is good vs mid debuff groups and heat is good vs enchanter debuff ofc.
- high dmg from staff
- backup heals/resses
- 6 sec ae disarm
- + some abilities from various artifacts.

looks cute imo

 

[Haldar]

- 6 sec ae disarm

how? harpy cloak?

 

[Jiggs]

ae disarm is rr5 friar RA^^

 

[Filip]

i dont know any friar's who got ml8 ....

is there any1 in alb ?

i belive more in the reaver ..


beside's that i really hope for the albs in NF they gain something ...

atm doing mixed/caster groups with no GP/no det tanks/shit resists (continue whine) .... sux

 

[Clipse]

QS !!

 

[Roadie]

Reavers get alot of loving and dont forget how evil the cold proc on levi is.

It might be worth trying a group like this:

2xclerics
1xpala
1xminstrel
1xbody sorc
1xreaver
2xwizzi

reaver picks targets with debuffed levi dmg from the sorc and the wizzies nuke when they can. Same setup with two ice/earth thurgs might be fun as well.

 

[Filip]

afaik dont ice pet give cold dam ... even though it say "numbering cold" etc etc ... theurg TL said at some point that ice pet do spiritdam .. but you cant debuff for it ...

 

[Zoogle]

- 6 sec ae disarm

how? harpy cloak?

Whirling staff friar RR5 ability does medium damage and disarms everyone around in a 350 radius for 6 secs