Albion casters and why they suck

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feathersham

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Hi all, Just an essay on why albion casters are a complete waste of time for rvr and if you ever even consider rolling a pure caster class to enjoy rvr dont!

Wizard = Total gimp, no defence, no worthwhile offence, no erm anything to make you a useful addition to an rvr group. Why is this ? Reason scc has ruined rvr for dd casters unless you have a handy pet and roled a chanter, you have no defence your tanks wont defend you and you are RP with legs expect to spend the rest of eternity spellcrafting and farming coin to pay for it and dont believe all the bullshit about Moc as been your salvation for rvr it wont make any difference. Basically you suck 8)

Cabalist: Dies before pet can do anything, another rvr gimp becuase scc gear makes your dots harmless little tickles to the guy with double the hitpoints you have and then some. You will die long before your pet does any kind of damage to anyone. Only useful for nearsight. Unfortunately scc means u sucks more shit than a Ubend also.. sorry but true....

Thurgie: Lol what can i say pbt your one useful skill has now as far as rvr is concerned totally pointless also. When the archer patch is released pbt will be penetrated expect to die alot at long range as the hunters and rangers that will soon appear after the patch appears. Sorry theurgies but u suck 8P

Sorcey: Good mezzer but with purge ip etc etc cc is now a total gimpage in itself ras with scc has also made u a pointless character for rvr, you along with the thuerg are now a spare part and only make a substitute for speed when a minstrel is not available for a group in rvr. Sorry dude but u suck also.

Necromancer: Nice power bot, nice idea but in rvr again u dont really matter to a group u suffer from the bitch which is scc to high resists make your dds suck shit. Pet sucks and is soon dead along with your pale arse.

So after all this your wondering god this guy sounds like a real moaning wanker. Well yeah your right I am a wanker and i do moan, but im human and just like to whine about how shit mythic have totally made casters a totally pointless class to play period. Spellcrafting has ruined a casters ability to do any kind of realistic damage that will allow them to live the hits hit takes any other class to kill them lol our armour and hit points are a total joke, The archer patch will make any caster class totally unplayable beyond how worse it is for a caster now to rvr, think of all those interupts on top of the interupts u get now from instants the other classes use on u already lol and the fast archer ability that will allow a ranger or hunter to bring your bt down and kill u before u can blink lol

Anyway im drunk im fucked off my english sucks as im babbling but my point is why the fuck didnt i roll a tank in the beginning lol this suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkks lol
 
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Piojo

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Originally posted by feathersham
Sorcey: Good mezzer but with purge ip etc etc cc is now a total gimpage in itself ras with scc has also made u a pointless character for rvr, you along with the thuerg are now a spare part and only make a substitute for speed when a minstrel is not available for a group in rvr. Sorry dude but u suck also.
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Haha this bit really makes u look stupid.
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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Originally posted by feathersham

Anyway im drunk im fucked off my english sucks as im babbling but my point is why the fuck didnt i roll a tank in the beginning lol this suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkks lol
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You kinda ruined your point by saying you posted under the influence of alcohol.
 
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Uncle Sick(tm)

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Originally posted by feathersham
Hi all, Just an essay on why albion casters are a complete waste of time for rvr and if you ever even consider rolling a pure caster class to enjoy rvr dont!

Wizard = Total gimp, no defence, no worthwhile offence, no erm anything to make you a useful addition to an rvr group. Why is this ? Reason scc has ruined rvr for dd casters unless you have a handy pet and roled a chanter, you have no defence your tanks wont defend you and you are RP with legs expect to spend the rest of eternity spellcrafting and farming coin to pay for it and dont believe all the bullshit about Moc as been your salvation for rvr it wont make any difference. Basically you suck 8)

Cabalist: Dies before pet can do anything, another rvr gimp becuase scc gear makes your dots harmless little tickles to the guy with double the hitpoints you have and then some. You will die long before your pet does any kind of damage to anyone. Only useful for nearsight. Unfortunately scc means u sucks more shit than a Ubend also.. sorry but true....

Thurgie: Lol what can i say pbt your one useful skill has now as far as rvr is concerned totally pointless also. When the archer patch is released pbt will be penetrated expect to die alot at long range as the hunters and rangers that will soon appear after the patch appears. Sorry theurgies but u suck 8P

Sorcey: Good mezzer but with purge ip etc etc cc is now a total gimpage in itself ras with scc has also made u a pointless character for rvr, you along with the thuerg are now a spare part and only make a substitute for speed when a minstrel is not available for a group in rvr. Sorry dude but u suck also.

Necromancer: Nice power bot, nice idea but in rvr again u dont really matter to a group u suffer from the bitch which is scc to high resists make your dds suck shit. Pet sucks and is soon dead along with your pale arse.

So after all this your wondering god this guy sounds like a real moaning wanker. Well yeah your right I am a wanker and i do moan, but im human and just like to whine about how shit mythic have totally made casters a totally pointless class to play period. Spellcrafting has ruined a casters ability to do any kind of realistic damage that will allow them to live the hits hit takes any other class to kill them lol our armour and hit points are a total joke, The archer patch will make any caster class totally unplayable beyond how worse it is for a caster now to rvr, think of all those interupts on top of the interupts u get now from instants the other classes use on u already lol and the fast archer ability that will allow a ranger or hunter to bring your bt down and kill u before u can blink lol

Anyway im drunk im fucked off my english sucks as im babbling but my point is why the fuck didnt i roll a tank in the beginning lol this suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkks lol
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I felt like quoting this big pile of steaming :m00:poo..

Thanks for the fucking headache, featherspam.
Spellchecker, get one - because your spelling suckkkkkkkkkkkks







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by the way..

"lol" - important if you rant/bullshit around.

"lol" makes every wrong right again.
Call someone a faggot arsehole and that person might be insulted - simply use "lol" and everything will be forgiven.
"lol" could make this world a better place.

"Iraq is developing weapons of mass destruction.... lol"
"Another 343 people die of SARS... lol"
 
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feathersham

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My spelling my be awful, but looking over it i fail to see any and I'd like to see anyone point out the above rant is not factual and put the point across that albion casters are viable for rvr post and pre the up and coming patch I mention.

Answer me this how the hell is a caster supposed to do anything when archers will kill you dead faster than a lurikeen can squeek?

How do casters do any damage when it takes a full spec fire wizard at least 6 - 8 nukes to kill a light tank?

How does a caster have any chance with no survivability option at all? You have archers that out damage you out shoot you, you have extremely large people that bash you over the head and kill you with one hit! You have small blue people that nearsight you all die, you have armour which only is good for a trolls napkin, you have a pointless defence called bladeturn which is ineffective? need I say more ???

Come on lets have ya! Its easy to come on here and take the piss out of what someone has written. I defy you to actually give me any reasonable response to this post, if anyone has any decent suggestions on how an albion caster class is viable as for rvr lets here them.

Otherwise keep posting crap on this thread, I wouldnt expect anything less after reading this forum for nearly 2yrs, oh and LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 
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-Nxs-

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give alb casters stealth..... and the ability to fire while cloaked.


pointless thread... pointless reply.
 
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Sharma

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When i look at this, i see

My view > Your view

Thus, not worth the bother reading ;)
 
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opoc

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Originally posted by feathersham
Hi all, Just an essay on why albion casters are a complete waste of time for rvr and if you ever even consider rolling a pure caster class to enjoy rvr dont!

Wizard = Total gimp, no defence, no worthwhile offence, no erm anything to make you a useful addition to an rvr group. Why is this ? Reason scc has ruined rvr for dd casters unless you have a handy pet and roled a chanter, you have no defence your tanks wont defend you and you are RP with legs expect to spend the rest of eternity spellcrafting and farming coin to pay for it and dont believe all the bullshit about Moc as been your salvation for rvr it wont make any difference. Basically you suck 8)

Cabalist: Dies before pet can do anything, another rvr gimp becuase scc gear makes your dots harmless little tickles to the guy with double the hitpoints you have and then some. You will die long before your pet does any kind of damage to anyone. Only useful for nearsight. Unfortunately scc means u sucks more shit than a Ubend also.. sorry but true....

Thurgie: Lol what can i say pbt your one useful skill has now as far as rvr is concerned totally pointless also. When the archer patch is released pbt will be penetrated expect to die alot at long range as the hunters and rangers that will soon appear after the patch appears. Sorry theurgies but u suck 8P

Sorcey: Good mezzer but with purge ip etc etc cc is now a total gimpage in itself ras with scc has also made u a pointless character for rvr, you along with the thuerg are now a spare part and only make a substitute for speed when a minstrel is not available for a group in rvr. Sorry dude but u suck also.

Necromancer: Nice power bot, nice idea but in rvr again u dont really matter to a group u suffer from the bitch which is scc to high resists make your dds suck shit. Pet sucks and is soon dead along with your pale arse.
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Thing is wizard is one of the best open rvr casters for dmg, they do alot more dmg than a light eld or void eld, ice wizard is on par with a mana eld and the few earth wizards are nifty too.

At least you cabalists get all dots in your spec line unlike ments do, get pet which can help out a bit but if you use cabby right they do alot of dmg, just not as fast as a wizard.

Theurgists have it easy, spam air stunning pets hard nukes and a ghetto mezz....all round decent caster for all situations....if ice spec aoe root for back up CC and them nuking pets dont do so much but a healer with 4 or 5 of them on him wont live long. Also pbt is good.

Sorcerers get the bolt range mezz, all the mezz resist buffs and chants making them nigh immune to it nearly and their group. speed, usefull dot and dd and lifedrain...pets....

Necro in open rvr as a group, not so good yet they can get away with dding stuff, good 1v1 on tanks though when they get a chance to que up spells. With all that absorb stuff to the pet is not allways so easy to kill.

Albs have the second best casters overall and mid the best....so if you want to whine about how crap casters are come join hib.
 
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old.Vae

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Re: Re: Albion casters and why they suck

Originally posted by opoc
Albs have the second best casters overall and mid the best....so if you want to whine about how crap casters are come join hib.
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Because Hibs have chanters which are not at all overpowered....
 
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Mavl

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Re: Re: Albion casters and why they suck

Originally posted by opoc

Theurgists have it easy, spam air stunning pets hard nukes and a ghetto mezz....all round decent caster for all situations....if ice spec aoe root for back up CC and them nuking pets dont do so much but a healer with 4 or 5 of them on him wont live long. Also pbt is good.
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and what about 6 sec pbt ?

and if u have mez you dont have root and nuking pets...

and a healer with 4 or 5 on him will have alot of time to live since those pets do a whooping 50 dmg per hit, if they hit(aka healer isnt st00pid).


Originally posted by opoc

Albs have the second best casters overall and mid the best....so if you want to whine about how crap casters are come join hib.
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poor poor enchanters... so gimped and useless, arent they.... and mana elds are usless too... i mean no utility at all...

And if you start pointing at enchantments line of enchanters, just keep in mind that all 3 realms have line(s) like that.



I disagree on sorcs with initial poster...

While they were extremely gimpy before, they are very fun and versatile now. A very nice support char. Yes, you wear cloth and die in 2 hits, but this grants you the longest mez in the game to compensate this. The only line that could use some more variety is perhaps matter line.


Wizards... well.... they are gimps. They can only do damage, and casters that try to do damage in rvr usually see numbers like 200(-300). Imo the main reason for that is just that resists hit wizards the most. While other casters cant do good gamage, but still have utility, wizards cant do anything good at all, since all they can do is damage. And they are very boring sometimes. Hopefully they will be more fun after they fix vp.

Cabalists... well... they are fairly nice, but also suffer heavily from resists, just very situational chars imo. but if they spec in a gimped line they can debuff their own lifetap.
 
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SoulFly Amarok

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You're a dumb fuck and also a newb.

I also hope, that the moderators catch your real posting nick, so they can ban you both.

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opoc

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Originally posted by SoulFly Amarok
You're a dumb fuck and also a newb.

I also hope, that the moderators catch your real posting nick, so they can ban you both.

-_-
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Me? :p

And malv no chanters and elds arent gimped or anything but don't have the utility of SMs since they usualy come aided by 10 sec insta aoe stun :p
 
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Edlina

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Think he ment the original poster Zega, since that was my firsts thoughts aswell, who know though, maybe he's just plain stupid. He sure doesn't know how to play this game properly at least.
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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How do casters do any damage when it takes a full spec fire wizard at least 6 - 8 nukes to kill a light tank?
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I'd say 8 - 10 vs decent resists, add to that the odd heal a healer might throw in :p
 
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Aule Valar

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Re: Re: Re: Albion casters and why they suck

Originally posted by Mavl
and what about 6 sec pbt ?

and if u have mez you dont have root and nuking pets...

and a healer with 4 or 5 on him will have alot of time to live since those pets do a whooping 50 dmg per hit, if they hit(aka healer isnt st00pid).
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air pets are not used to kill people (unless boad is up in which case they do more than nukes...)
in case you haven't noticed a healer with pets on him can't exactly cast a lot of spells - air pets exist to interupt casters
or when solo chainstun tanks so that they can be nuked down

and as for 6 sec pbt... screw it, 2 theurgs with 10 sec are enough, and then they can actually do something other than pbt
an air theurg can nuke nearly as hard as a wizard, backup cc, pet to interupt people and has a nice single target root
oh and friction > all casters
 
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cHodAX

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Alb casters suck, I have been telling people that for ages but people just tell me to FO etc... :)
 
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lakih

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I'd say 8 - 10 vs decent resists, add to that the odd heal a healer might throw in
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What you need is teamwork and debuff...
1800HP, 45% heatresist

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opoc

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Originally posted by old.cHodAX
Alb casters suck, I have been telling people that for ages but people just tell me to FO etc... :)
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I wouldn't tell you that if you said they are but i would say feel yourself lucky you're not hib :eek:

Though if you started saying mid glasses are gimps then i would say that to you :p
 
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Zebolt

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hmm...

Have you actually played the game..?

Aw, thought not :p
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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Lakih, I know debuffs work, but its kinda difficult to coordinate in a random group. Solar is high RR, uberbuffed and much more experienced than most and in a well made and very tough gank squad.

Kinda impossible for people who don't have all of the above to do that.

P.S. I dinged rr5 on a debuff nuke, so I'm not that useless :p
 
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Jergiot

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Re: Re: Albion casters and why they suck

Originally posted by opoc
Albs have the second best casters overall and mid the best....so if you want to whine about how crap casters are come join hib.
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roflol, yes u have a caster that totally ignores ur heat resist. that sux! .....
 
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shadowz

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lets compare some casters

PBAE caster
ALB = ice wiz they have , single cold resist debuff/dd and pbae and single root and

HIBS = Chanter , dmg shield , pet , 9s , stun , 50% debuff on baseline nuke , pbae

MIDS = sm they have pbae , pet , ae str con debuff , ae mezz(crappy tho) , cure mez , 80 s single mezz
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pbt classes (warden not caster tho)

ALB = theurg if they spec for 6s pbt they get pbt some crappy ice nuke , and pets which can only interrupt

HIB = warden , 24% resist buffs , 6 s pbt , heals , can fight "ok", and buffs

MID = rm , 6s pbt get ns , ae snare , same debuff/dd as ice wiz and a crappy nuke
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single nuke casters

ALB = fire wiz they can bolt + nuke + single root

RM = nuke , 10s , pbt (debuff their own nuke) , "crappy" ns and ae snare

HIB = Menta they get nuke mana regen , pet , dot , stun
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There's 2 ways for alb casters to debuff their strong nukers , either spec a spirit caba which can debuff their own baseline "lifedrain" + debuff the theurgs wind nukes, tho the caba will nuke for around 300 after he debuffed his target so his nukes are crap

And the other way is to have a body sorc who's crap imo (since sorcs are albs main cc they should get MIND not body) that debuff heat resist for the wizard and the sorc nuke for around 300 .

Hibs can simply use 1 chanter to debuff 50% heat for himself + for a menta then 2 ppl nuking same dmg

MIDS can also use 2 rms 1 rc and 1 dark and debuff 50% cold then 2 ppl nuking same dmg

imo the only good alb caster is sorc for cc and mana regen and mezz reduction , on the other hand we have bof so we can easily make uber melee grps oO
 
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