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Danya
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This is a forum, it's designed for threads being taken off topic. If you didn't know that you must be shockingly naive.
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old.Chavez
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Or incompetent....
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old.windforce
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only saw mids running away last night followed by albs
"Middies stand and get yourself farmed"
Went to Grauchan Gorge and got whiped by Hibs. But sure we kicked ass first
"Middies stand and get yourself farmed"
Went to Grauchan Gorge and got whiped by Hibs. But sure we kicked ass first
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Picture if you will...
Emain Macha - lovely summers day.
Albion has amassed a sizable army at the mid-milegate.
Midgard too has chosen to invade hibernia.. and is gathering strength around their portal keep.
> Albs Charge outnumbered mids
> Mids run back to MPK
> Albs follow Mids to MPK, but quickly get board
> Albs run back to MMG leaving non-speedbuffed people to all die, they are also not rezzed and end up releasing.
> Mids skip back up to MMG and pull the albs back down, once there the casters end up on the front-line and as they are casting away, they forget that they should be back at th MMG with the rest of the Albs, and are left for dead.
> Rinse.
> Repeat.
> Middys win.
> Then - when things really get dull a faint voice can be heard...
.."lets get DC"...
Emain Macha - lovely summers day.
Albion has amassed a sizable army at the mid-milegate.
Midgard too has chosen to invade hibernia.. and is gathering strength around their portal keep.
> Albs Charge outnumbered mids
> Mids run back to MPK
> Albs follow Mids to MPK, but quickly get board
> Albs run back to MMG leaving non-speedbuffed people to all die, they are also not rezzed and end up releasing.
> Mids skip back up to MMG and pull the albs back down, once there the casters end up on the front-line and as they are casting away, they forget that they should be back at th MMG with the rest of the Albs, and are left for dead.
> Rinse.
> Repeat.
> Middys win.
> Then - when things really get dull a faint voice can be heard...
.."lets get DC"...
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VidX
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...Continuation
> Mids arrive at DC
> Mids spot a few defenders, mostly tanks and rangers
> Mids pull the guards
> Guards die easily
> More Mids arrive
> Mids start bashing on doors
> Hibs start taking pot-shots at mids
> First door down
> More mids arrive
> 2nd door at 25%, Hib defenders disappear
> 2nd door falls
> Someone /whispers 'Do not charge the Lord Room'
> Trolls charge to the Lord Room so all Mids follow
> 2 groups of Hibs at Lord Room
> Hibs start pbaoe spam
> Mids die
> 10 minutes later, repeat for Albs vs Hibs
> Mids arrive at DC
> Mids spot a few defenders, mostly tanks and rangers
> Mids pull the guards
> Guards die easily
> More Mids arrive
> Mids start bashing on doors
> Hibs start taking pot-shots at mids
> First door down
> More mids arrive
> 2nd door at 25%, Hib defenders disappear
> 2nd door falls
> Someone /whispers 'Do not charge the Lord Room'
> Trolls charge to the Lord Room so all Mids follow
> 2 groups of Hibs at Lord Room
> Hibs start pbaoe spam
> Mids die
> 10 minutes later, repeat for Albs vs Hibs
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old.marteeny
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Saturnine that is so true, a few times now I have stood there mezzing mids when they are around 16 of em, mez about 8 or so, albs now outnumber mids, but albs dont realise because they've already run 
I expect to die once I've mezzed some mids (having no survivability unlike other realms cc), but it woiuld be nice occasionally if I could watch albs take advantage and make use of my death.
btw thanks to cool infils like Lakarell and Ghosted who occasionally pop up and slap down the odd enemy stealther when they go for me
I expect to die once I've mezzed some mids (having no survivability unlike other realms cc), but it woiuld be nice occasionally if I could watch albs take advantage and make use of my death.
btw thanks to cool infils like Lakarell and Ghosted who occasionally pop up and slap down the odd enemy stealther when they go for me
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Coren
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If you don't have speed and don't want to die, don't go to mpk...
Makes it even more stupid.
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case-rigantis
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there`s dieing Coren and then there`s being deserted by your colleagues....
using your personal experience Coren we could also say...
"want damage buffs?....play a wizard"
"want strength buffs?...play a cleric"
unbenown to yourself there is an idea know as teamwork currently moving trhough teh ether awaiting to be discovered by yourself....
using your personal experience Coren we could also say...
"want damage buffs?....play a wizard"
"want strength buffs?...play a cleric"
unbenown to yourself there is an idea know as teamwork currently moving trhough teh ether awaiting to be discovered by yourself....
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Danya
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I don't think Coren said, "play a minstrel" there. Having speed doesn't mean playing a minstrel case, it means being in a group with one. If your group doesn't have a minstrel, don't go to MPK, you will get left there and ganked by skalds.
Similarly:
"want damage buffs?....group with a wizard"
"want strength buffs?...group with a cleric"
Maybe you should try this teamwork thing you were just saying about...
Similarly:
"want damage buffs?....group with a wizard"
"want strength buffs?...group with a cleric"
Maybe you should try this teamwork thing you were just saying about...
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case-rigantis
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going from Coren`s example having a minstrel makes no difference if your minstrel fecks off without telling youOriginally posted by old.Saturnine
"> Albs run back to MMG leaving non-speedbuffed people to all die, they are also not rezzed and end up releasing.
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If you don't have speed and don't want to die, don't go to mpk..."
plenty of times ive seen 10-15 people mown down because their minstrel or the rest of the people there didn`t say they were retreating to MMG
all it takes is 1 person in 1 of the groups who`s heading back to MMG
to yell "retreating to MMG!!" before setting off
all you do by not doing this is help the other realms gain realm points..
leaving your colleagues to die because they didn`t notice half the force get up and leave without saying anything or just because they aren`t quite as fast as a level 50 minstrel in my opinion is unacceptable
"> Albs run back to MMG leaving non-speedbuffed people to all die, they are also not rezzed and end up releasing.
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If you don't have speed and don't want to die, don't go to mpk..."
plenty of times ive seen 10-15 people mown down because their minstrel or the rest of the people there didn`t say they were retreating to MMG
all it takes is 1 person in 1 of the groups who`s heading back to MMG
to yell "retreating to MMG!!" before setting off
all you do by not doing this is help the other realms gain realm points..
leaving your colleagues to die because they didn`t notice half the force get up and leave without saying anything or just because they aren`t quite as fast as a level 50 minstrel in my opinion is unacceptable
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Danya
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I've yelled about retreats plenty of times. People don't pay attention. They die, because either they stay too long or have no minstrel.
If they don't have a minstrel they shouldn't be there at all. It's not worth jeapardising half the force because a couple of morons decided that they would camp MPK without speed.
If they don't have a minstrel they shouldn't be there at all. It's not worth jeapardising half the force because a couple of morons decided that they would camp MPK without speed.
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case-rigantis
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but thats the whole point! by not making it clear you`re retreating you DO jeapardise half the force!
ok there will always be people who don`t listen when they should or don`t move fast enough and are caught but currently the case is..
1st person at MPK : "lets retreat to MMG draw them out"
2nd person : "good idea..whoaaah they`re charging?!"
3rd person:" erm there only 20 of us left the other 20 just left for MMG...RUN!!!!"
followed by 10-15 death messages as the disjointed force is hunted down and killed....
rinse repeat...
i`ve not done much of this PK camping but when i have i`ve never EVER heard anyone shout retreat the case is always as above ..
ok there will always be people who don`t listen when they should or don`t move fast enough and are caught but currently the case is..
1st person at MPK : "lets retreat to MMG draw them out"
2nd person : "good idea..whoaaah they`re charging?!"
3rd person:" erm there only 20 of us left the other 20 just left for MMG...RUN!!!!"
followed by 10-15 death messages as the disjointed force is hunted down and killed....
rinse repeat...
i`ve not done much of this PK camping but when i have i`ve never EVER heard anyone shout retreat the case is always as above ..
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Danya
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I yell (as in "/y Let's go MMG" or similar), how much clearer do you want it? Individually /send each person there and wait for them to acknowledge.
The point stands, if you're not in a group with a minstrel, don't go to the PK, you will get killed.
The point stands, if you're not in a group with a minstrel, don't go to the PK, you will get killed.
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case-rigantis
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i`m beginning to see why albion will never win a war.....
remember thE battlecry guys! ONE FOR ONE! AND ONE FOR ONE!
remember thE battlecry guys! ONE FOR ONE! AND ONE FOR ONE!
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I'll get my group to chase Mids to PK if it's worthwhile, but once there we will turn back right away, unless someone's been hit by a root etc. Frankly, if you're so disjointed you can't stick to your group, what are you doing there?
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It does happen that people without speed follow the zerg to PK ... it's not always obvious that speed-less types shouldn't go there. Also it is sometimes necessary to go there to rez guild mates or friends, even group mates, who have been caught out whether you have speed or not.
Case - don't moan about people not fighting at the PK. PK camping is exceedingly lame. The enemy can build up huge forces then rush down the hill and zerg you.
If people want to camp anywhere it should be at milegates.
Case - don't moan about people not fighting at the PK. PK camping is exceedingly lame. The enemy can build up huge forces then rush down the hill and zerg you.
If people want to camp anywhere it should be at milegates.
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Lochlyessa
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I'm not normally in a group in emain, so obviously I don't normally have speed.. I run to mpk with everyone else, usually /dance with a few mids.. then run back.
when will people realise that camping a pk is exceedingly stupid?
For a start.. it means the ppl getting camped may get bored and go home - no rps for you.
Secondly.. someone lag runs, pulls the guard - Oh look, we're all dead,ta!
Thirdly.. you complain when mids do it to us..
What comes around goes around.
If your sensible in RvR, not having speed shouldn't prove that much of a problem
when will people realise that camping a pk is exceedingly stupid?
For a start.. it means the ppl getting camped may get bored and go home - no rps for you.
Secondly.. someone lag runs, pulls the guard - Oh look, we're all dead,ta!
Thirdly.. you complain when mids do it to us..
What comes around goes around.
If your sensible in RvR, not having speed shouldn't prove that much of a problem
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Coren
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Let me rephrase my last post then:
If you don't have a group with speed or if you're unable to communicate with and stick to your group minstrel, don't go to mpk...
Well said.
If you don't have a group with speed or if you're unable to communicate with and stick to your group minstrel, don't go to mpk...
Well said.
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old.Enigma
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Originally posted by Dannyn
I don't think Coren said, "play a minstrel" there. Having speed doesn't mean playing a minstrel case, it means being in a group with one. If your group doesn't have a minstrel, don't go to MPK, you will get left there and ganked by skalds.
Similarly:
"want damage buffs?....group with a wizard"
"want strength buffs?...group with a cleric"
Maybe you should try this teamwork thing you were just saying about...
Dumb is as Dumb does. If everyone runs and you stay behind all those nasty stealthers pop up. Get real theres one thing being ignorant and theres another supporting an ignorant person. Doh!
Not everyone has a group not everyone has a full group.
Teamwork is you all run together and you all run back at the same speed together. The one place where ppl can learn to watch the rear is when running back from the pk's. Albs lack it. Mids lack it. And the previous USEFUL posts have it down to a tee how the zerg wars work.
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Coren
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Who's ignorant here? The one saying: 'Don't go to mpk if you don't have speed, since you'll have a big chance of dieing' or the one running without speed/group/sense to mpk to die over and over again?
Why should the people surviving adept their tactics to the the one the dead people use, instead of the other way around?
Why should the people surviving adept their tactics to the the one the dead people use, instead of the other way around?
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old.marteeny
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Its worrying that a few people think others are stupid/ignorant/morons just because they do what they like in rvr, sure its best if everyone sticks together, but how about just accepting people do what they like and this doesn't make them any of the above things.
In emain at the moment its not just about sticking with your group its also about sticking with other groups because of the large forces of enemies that often roam around.
Stick to your own group with a minstrel, yes you can run away quicker. Stick to the same pace as the slowest group, then more numbers in battle, which would hopefully mean more battles won.
[edit] btw good fighting in emain tonight, fun with hibbies at crossroads near dc, then middies near mmg after.
In emain at the moment its not just about sticking with your group its also about sticking with other groups because of the large forces of enemies that often roam around.
Stick to your own group with a minstrel, yes you can run away quicker. Stick to the same pace as the slowest group, then more numbers in battle, which would hopefully mean more battles won.
[edit] btw good fighting in emain tonight, fun with hibbies at crossroads near dc, then middies near mmg after.
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Actually, I prefer to take 1-2 groups away from the zerg and do our own thing. Zerg warfare is utterly boring, more so if we have to slog around without speed. Harsh, but true
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old.Enigma
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Tell me where you go and we'll try find you. The zerg is boring. There is no teamwork in it. Its who can get to the rp's fastest. Thats why the slowest people get behind its a large uncoordinated group looking for rp's. Is this the endgame!!!
Its levelling in disguise. I want to be RA 10 so I dont care how often I die or kepp killing the same MOB I must be the next rr up or I must be the best Class. The fact is we cant tell who is the best in class. If I was grouped with Niar say. I could be the best in my class as far as rp's are concerned. If I played 24 hours a dya running in zergs I could be the best in my class.
I was in emain a total of an hour last night and left as soon as mids started zerging albs. I was wondering how the game mechanics could be changed to make this game a bit more tactical whilst keeping within the roleplay theme. At the moment there are more tactics and skill involved in Counter Strike,TFC, well any of them. We need to make our own rules here and it will always end up the same until everyone is bored.
If you havent got a minstrel or skald in your group. Zerging is going to be hard work for you. Come on own up. How many times have you zerged say 16 people and ended up with no rp??
A new tactic for you. Saw a guy run solo into some albs with the rest of the group about 5 seconds later. 6 albs stopped to whack 1 guy and forgot about the herd 5 seconds behind. How funny is that! I could see the albs faces. "ITS MY RP. ITS MY RP"
Its levelling in disguise. I want to be RA 10 so I dont care how often I die or kepp killing the same MOB I must be the next rr up or I must be the best Class. The fact is we cant tell who is the best in class. If I was grouped with Niar say. I could be the best in my class as far as rp's are concerned. If I played 24 hours a dya running in zergs I could be the best in my class.
I was in emain a total of an hour last night and left as soon as mids started zerging albs. I was wondering how the game mechanics could be changed to make this game a bit more tactical whilst keeping within the roleplay theme. At the moment there are more tactics and skill involved in Counter Strike,TFC, well any of them. We need to make our own rules here and it will always end up the same until everyone is bored.
If you havent got a minstrel or skald in your group. Zerging is going to be hard work for you. Come on own up. How many times have you zerged say 16 people and ended up with no rp??
A new tactic for you. Saw a guy run solo into some albs with the rest of the group about 5 seconds later. 6 albs stopped to whack 1 guy and forgot about the herd 5 seconds behind. How funny is that! I could see the albs faces. "ITS MY RP. ITS MY RP"
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Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
Actually, I prefer to take 1-2 groups away from the zerg and do our own thing. Zerg warfare is utterly boring, more so if we have to slog around without speed. Harsh, but true
Very True
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old.Isos
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it was very funny battle in emain today
40 mids and 8 albs that was way to far away from pk when they know the mids were camping amg.
40 charged, the 8 albs ran and I tough, How hard can it be to solo a mid zerg? and charged, maybe I could have gone tought unoticed and killed a caster =)
all albs do not run! just some =)
40 mids and 8 albs that was way to far away from pk when they know the mids were camping amg.
40 charged, the 8 albs ran and I tough, How hard can it be to solo a mid zerg? and charged, maybe I could have gone tought unoticed and killed a caster =)
all albs do not run! just some =)
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Lochlyessa
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I would run but I lag too much.
Do not confuse this with bravery.
Do not confuse this with bravery.
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VidX
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Lochlyessa, you ROCK!
Probably the Alb I notice the most at the front line.
/salute
Probably the Alb I notice the most at the front line.
/salute
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Lochlyessa
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You only notice meh cos you nuke me to death in under 9 seconds
Hiya tho, would love to actually get to cast vs you one day
Hiya tho, would love to actually get to cast vs you one day
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And shes on perma rez duty for some people as well