Alb tank set up 1.83

[Zede]

Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
------
Merc
Paladin
Tic
Arms/merc/reaver
------
Theurg/Caba

3 mercs would do as well ofc, but im aiming for the greatest utility. all speculation as of now, but ones has to try and work out these things.

whats gonna work best ? will arms and pallys shove out friars and casters ?

 

[Equador]

I still think you should include a friar into such a group, as they make terrific bodyguards, and their endurance reduction buff + paladin endurance chant makes your group going strong without problems.

 

[Mikor]

was thinking about tank group setup the other day and came up with

cleric
cleric
sorc
pally
friar
merc
arms
theurg/caba but you could prolly put a tic in here as well

 

[Zede]

having baod x2 (caba & tic) & free tic rr5 ra, kinda for me shoves friar out of the grp for me

 

[Konah]

u gotta be alive to press baod

friar friar friar

 

[Legean]

Yeh givf friar love. Id also be tempted to put in an earth wizzy for AE snare with no immunity after 1.83 wizzys get nearsight too in earth line so they'll have some more utility.

 

[Bahumat]

Cleric
Cleric
Paladin
Sorc
Thuergist
Merc
Merc
Reaver

 

[Dakkath]

Bahumet, I like your grp setup...

Means I may actualy get a group again!!!

 

[Ljuvasara]

How about this then:

sorc
cleric
cleric
------
bg paladin
2hander paladin
hybrid armsman
mercenary
mercenary

 

[Valgyr]

How about this then:

sorc
cleric
cleric
------
bg paladin
2hander paladin
hybrid armsman
mercenary
mercenary

Nah u need more pallys change 1 of the mercs to a pally and the other to a armsman!

 

[Kerith]

How about this then:

sorc
cleric
cleric
------
bg paladin
2hander paladin
hybrid armsman
mercenary
mercenary

2h paladin = zero dmg, and with 2k range end theres no point in using 2 paladins. not as if the support needs celerity buff.

if you gonna have double BG then friar + paladin, tho that kinda limits your dmg output somewhat, so maybe paladin + armsman. personally i like:

cleric
cleric
sorc(mind)
sorc(body)
paladin
tic
reaver
reaver

drop a twf between charging tanks and enemy sport, extend a little drop the tanks with cold debuff, celerity and 3x levi (maybe tic stays offensive and interupts support, if 2x sorcs cant handle it ^^). then push with 3x BL + levi + celerity.. /drool

 

[Urgluf]

cleric
cleric
sorc
friar
pala
merc
merc
+ theurg/caba/cleric/reaver/tic

theurg is nice for eb/haste and pet spam, caba with ml9 pet and ns/disease, another cleric for interupting with shears etc, reaver for twf, slam, levi, bl.. or tic for RR5 + and levi, bl

 

[kirennia]

u gotta be alive to press baod

friar friar friar

Thats a silly argument I suppose sorcs have to be alive to mezz so that means they're useless too...and clerics have to be alive to heal so we wont bother with them...

edit: As for what I'd go for:

Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
Cabby
BG friar or pally
Merc
Merc/armsman
Heretank


Fantastic survivability, good damage output, good interupts and above average healing

 

[MadsKaizer]

Anyone saying that friar doesnt work for bg because they die to easily havent tried it I guess, when the tanks realize im bodyguarding someone, they just change target to another, not me

 

[Valgyr]

Thats a silly argument I suppose sorcs have to be alive to mezz so that means they're useless too...and clerics have to be alive to heal so we wont bother with them...

edit: As for what I'd go for:

Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
Cabby
BG friar or pally
Merc
Merc/armsman
Heretank


Fantastic survivability, good damage output, good interupts and above average healing

I would defenetly go theurg over cabby in a tank grp. pure pet spec

 

[Kerith]

Anyone saying that friar doesnt work for bg because they die to easily havent tried it I guess, when the tanks realize im bodyguarding someone, they just change target to another, not me

i dont think anyone is saying that

I would defenetly go theurg over cabby in a tank grp. pure pet spec

either could work tbh, tank grp = banelords = interupts, so cabby can work well to kill charge tanks on support with sorc

 

[Konah]

Thats a silly argument

not rly. instamezzed due to los/ss6/radar, stun+assist nuke on cabby/theurg, /rel

plus i assume theres a range on baod? there isn't on friar resists.

plus friar resists last the whole fight not just a few seconds.

plus u can baod ontop of friar resists for even more QQ dmg.

 

[Zede]

not rly. instamezzed due to los/ss6/radar, stun+assist nuke on cabby/theurg, /rel

plus i assume theres a range on baod? there isn't on friar resists.

plus friar resists last the whole fight not just a few seconds.

plus u can baod ontop of friar resists for even more QQ dmg.

tic snare is better than a bg friar in my opinion. we have ran a tic a few times in the gg now, and it works really well.

alb is limited with grp set ups, mids and hibs can always seem to fit in 1 class that needs 2 in alb :/ blame mythic, but pallys will be fotm above friars come 1.83. c'est la vie.

 

[toxii]

cleric
cleric
friar
mind sorc
body sorc
thurg
cabalist
merc




you was talking about utility?

 

[fettoken]

Minstrel
Paladin 2h
Paladin 2h
Paladin 2h
Paladin 1h / block
Cleric Smite / Reju / Warlord
Cleric Enhance / Reju / Perfector
Reaver


Fuck utility

 

[Beltorak]

I would put the Arms on BG duty and use the Pally in the ASS train

 

[Phule_Gubben]

cleric
cleric
friar
mind sorc
body sorc
thurg
cabalist
merc




you was talking about utility?

dump a cleric for a Tic and you're free to go.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Lots of discussion here but I think a lot of strange setups do good. It all depends on the players and if they are having fun with it.

2 x Cleric, 3 x Friar, 1 x Sorc, 1 x Theurg, 1 x Cabby or
2 x Cleric, 1 x Friar (BG), 1 x Armsman (secondary BG, slam/snare utilty tank), 1 x Sorc, 1 x Theurg, 1 x Cabby, 1 x Heretic,
I'd like to try.

Don't realize why you need Celerity on assist train when most Mercs should be hitting cap swing speed anyway and Friars have endu cost reduction buffs.

But since this was about a tank setup:

2 x Cleric, 1 x Sorc, 1 x Friar, 1 x Armsman, 1 x Heretic, 1 x Merc, 1 x Reaver.

You get a nice bomb of 3 BLs, Heretic/Reaver to help Sorc to interrupt, two body guarders, 2 slammers, maybe 2 users with Leviathan and so on.

 

[Napshot]

3 sorc 3 cabys 2 cleric, 6 ml 9 pets there is ur tank grp

 

[Valgyr]

3 sorc 3 cabys 2 cleric, 6 ml 9 pets there is ur tank grp

Sst ran that in OF by far the best adding grp ive ever seen

 

[Bahumat]

This is a nice setup but the casters have to all be ml9 and RR5+

Sorc
Sorc
Cleric
Cleric
Cabalist
Cabalist
Reaver
Reaver

The reavers arent there to kill people, the 4 ml9 pets and overpowered sorc/caba dmg is there for that. The reavers will interupt the opposing support via pulse, banelord, twf etc.

The casters need to work well so that as soon as 1 gets targeted they work together in nuking down the attacker.

This group has 2 sorcs so you should be able to win/recover from mezz, however if your all mezzed you kinda die...but no one will have a perfect group and imo this would work very well.

 

[Kerith]

dump a cleric for a Tic and you're free to go.

Oo why would u dump a cleric for tic.. no spec buffs, no SH, no spec heals NO SMITE ?!

however a tic would fit in that solo merc roll alot better, it excells as solo BL

 

[Konah]

wonder if a rej friar + heretic can add upto/replace the 2nd cleric... hmmz. when all your casters are lifetappers its probably doable tbh.

cleric
friar
cabby
cabby
sorc
sorc
heretic
heretic

4 rezzers and everyone in the grp can heal themselves

6 can heal others

^^

 

[Zede]

wonder if a rej friar + heretic can add upto/replace the 2nd cleric... hmmz. when all your casters are lifetappers its probably doable tbh.

cleric
friar
cabby
cabby
sorc
sorc
heretic
heretic

4 rezzers and everyone in the grp can heal themselves

6 can heal others

^^

assuming the tics go banelord, and the friar has bg, having only one nearsight curer could be a problem

this is a tank grp set up discussion come 1.83....not casters peeps, thats been discussed a trillion times ! its more about.....can a tic and pally make it into a set grp come 1.83

 

[Phule_Gubben]

wonder if a rej friar + heretic can add upto/replace the 2nd cleric... hmmz. when all your casters are lifetappers its probably doable tbh.

cleric
friar
cabby
cabby
sorc
sorc
heretic
heretic

4 rezzers and everyone in the grp can heal themselves

6 can heal others

^^

exactly my pov.