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dimerian

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Easy answer for threadstarter: Some ppl in every realms (even in alb! :O ) doesnt like constant adding ppl,most still remember Rambo`s and kklas`s fg of stealthers speeding behind albs :p
 

Saggy

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Bunnytwo said:
Yep, but as you admit youself everybody adds, groups add to stealther's fights, so why shouldn't it work both ways?
Actually I said it is working both ways - there is players who dont add in group RvR, players who dont add as an stealther, players who dont add on stealther fights and players who add in group RvR, players who add as an stealther and players who add on stealther fights. Everyone doesn't add ;)
Bunnytwo said:
Would say that the majority of those running the uber fotm gotta have exactly the right setup or I ain't going outta the PK are playing for the RPs and displaying the "Wanking over frags" attitude.
There isn't any "the one and only right setup", there is plenty of differend working setups and people choose the one they prefer. Human nature kind of "force" as to make as good group as possible instead of as bad group as possible to be able to get as fair fights as possible.
Bunnytwo said:
They definately ain't after "fair" fights, they want to carve through the enemy like a hot knife. Fair play to em, but it definately isn't some sort of Zen like love of the beauty of the game type crap, more like a "Oh Oh Oh my GAWWWD YES YES YES I've got deathspam"
:rolleyes:
Bunnytwo said:
Bottom line is though much as some might want to play 1fgvs1fg, if they don't want people adding them they've got the wrong game.
Agreed. It doesn't, however, change the fact that by adding and yelling "Oh Oh Oh my GAWWWD YES YES YES I've got deathspam" and wanking over it may ruin the fun of others, the ones prefering crushing their testicles with hammer over adding :p
 

Bunnytwo

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Haven't seen a group coming across a stealther fight yet that hasn't got stuck right in. So there can't be many groups about that would rather mangle their balls than add.

And again if someone adding to someones fight ruins the game for them they've got the wrong game. :fluffle:

DAOC is designed to encourage large battles, hence the battlegroups, keeps, relics and choke points of the milegates. NF is going to make it even more big fight orientated.
 

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Bunnytwo said:
Haven't seen a group coming across a stealther fight yet that hasn't got stuck right in. So there can't be many groups about that would rather mangle their balls than add.
Like I said I've done it 1000+ times and seen it done 1000+ times by others. My testicles have been splatted a long long time ago and so have many others.
Bunnytwo said:
And again if someone adding to someones fight ruins the game for them they've got the wrong game. :fluffle:
Ruining the fun of that moment, not the fun of the whole game ;) By this logic players who can't live with Artifact/drop stealing, cash scamming, camp stealing and other lame stuff that is not against CoC are playing the wrong game too.
Bunnytwo said:
DAOC is designed to encourage large battles, hence the battlegroups, keeps, relics and choke points of the milegates. NF is going to make it even more big fight orientated.
Yes, but there is still plenty of room for smaller scale RvR.
 

Bunnytwo

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Depends what you class as artifact stealing. If you mean group ready to go on an arti shouldn't take it because someone has had a single alt camped at the spot for the last few days while they play their main shouldn't go for it, when basically you could end up with the situation that somone keeps an alt permanently camped at the spawn spot thus claiming it for ever. Then yep that ain't against the CoC and I hope it never is. Cos otherwise nobody with a life will be playing this game. Attacking a mob that someone has already attacked is against the CoC.

Yep there is room for small scale rVr, but if someone goes to the most populated rVr sector they're having a bit of a laugh if they expect not to get any adds.
 

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Bunnytwo said:
Depends what you class as artifact stealing.
What I had in mind was a situation where a group goes to kill the mob X and the one getting the artifact keeps it even if the plan was to roll for it. Happened quite often I believe.
Bunnytwo said:
Yep there is room for small scale rVr, but if someone goes to the most populated rVr sector they're having a bit of a laugh if they expect not to get any adds.
Everyone in Emain are aware of the big chance of getting adds and they can choose to or not to add. Adding isn't a "must to do" thing. I never added on open RvR (unless I was asked to add) but I joined the MG fights (bottleneck so kinda have to :p). Each and every "random" group have added everytime they have had a chance but these so called "RP-hunry l33t ubah pwnage" groups chosed not to add very often from my experience. Of course they got flamed when they added and when they didn't add though :p

Anyway, this thread reminded me to stay away from Daoc so I'm done here :) Will spam some other thread when I get bored :p
 

Oro

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I wish people with croc rings would remember to cancel them at BKs or anywhere else near hasteners.

Regarding the ongoing 1FG vs 1FG Quake 3 attitude - that dies when New Frontiers comes.
 

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Oro said:
Regarding the ongoing 1FG vs 1FG Quake 3 attitude - that dies when New Frontiers comes.

why is our way of playing an evil attitude that you should slag off?
its amazing how people who don't run in 8v8 type grps slag those who do off without having ever tryed it, and are much more venhemently anti us than we are you, try and be a bit less prejudiced if possible

and as for taking it on and off, its not something i like doing as you could get jumped with it off or forget to put it back on
fortunatly in mid grp moves with sprint speed so its not really an issue leeching
 

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Oro said:
I wish people with croc rings would remember to cancel them at BKs or anywhere else near hasteners.

Regarding the ongoing 1FG vs 1FG Quake 3 attitude - that dies when New Frontiers comes.

I´m not so sure it dies with frontier, since a lot of thoose groups are high rr, and with ra costs in NF, ít´s gonna be a huge diffrence between low and high rr, not to mention degree of toa equipment etc that most of the guilds specialised on fg vs fg have. With gp out of the way it should be possible to beat even 2-3 fg low rr hibs with a good group. Prolly about as easy as the same amount of albs can be when it´s low rrs.

Think to really kill it you would have to do something about the mentality, since it would need that high rr farm groups add on each more often, and the mentality in general is to skip adding.

Anotherthing, if they want zerg fights they should bulid a engine that doesn´t require a top end computer to play it. For me that doesn´t have a uber computer it isn´t much fun when it goes above 2fg vs 2fg, it´s unbearable to play with that lag.

It may be a rvr game but it´s not build for it. And that´s the greatest flaw.
 

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Oro said:
Regarding the ongoing 1FG vs 1FG Quake 3 attitude - that dies when New Frontiers comes.
Maybe if NF gets some radical changes but as for things are now 1fg RvR is more popular than ever on fairly many US-servers. Defending a keep is way too easy so people tend to roam with 1fg and kill the zerg of 100+ enemies when they attack a keep. New Frontier's aim was to encourage people to do more keep RvR but sadly it scares them away instead. Oh, and the difference between high RR and low RR in New Frontiers is just stupidly way too big :/ Yanks believe there wont be anything else to fight with than mobs in NF unless tons of things get nerfed (including MAs and NF RAs :p). I believe that Prydwen size of server wont handle NF keep takes, hard enough on the biggest US-servers.
 

anubis

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we use permasprint
they can leech speed as long as they want :p
 

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Elendar said:
why is our way of playing an evil attitude that you should slag off?
its amazing how people who don't run in 8v8 type grps slag those who do off without having ever tryed it, and are much more venhemently anti us than we are you, try and be a bit less prejudiced if possible

and as for taking it on and off, its not something i like doing as you could get jumped with it off or forget to put it back on
fortunatly in mid grp moves with sprint speed so its not really an issue leeching

I have been in single group fighting with my shamn and yes its fun but I have also been with the zerg and it can be as much fun as the fg fights imo.

But you have to try and see it from the other persons side of the fence .. if all you do is fg rvr and yell about leeches ofc your going to get backlash ... same as if all you do is zerg and complain about fg. With the frontiers the size they are and most of the encounters in 1 and occasionally up to 3 zones your never going to have straight fg fights theres always gonna be someone around to 'leech'.

It really gets on my nerves when someone accuses others of the same realm as leeching when by definition there is no leeching in RvR becuase you can't claim the victim / fg u are fighting as your own. There is no shield that protects you or the other fg from outside dmg like in some onlines fps .. and the fact u run at speed six dont mean anything as u have to stop to fight ;-)

Just accept the fights u get, be thankful when there are no adds and move on to the next one.

Oh and I think the fact that RA's are more expensive and therefore you can buy less actually narrows the gap between rr3-4 ppl and rr 8 or 9 as you have less abilities to actually make a difference.
 

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>why is our way of playing an evil attitude that you should slag off? its amazing how people who don't run in 8v8 type grps slag those who do off without having ever tryed it, and are much more venhemently anti us than we are you, try and be a bit less prejudiced if possible

Because there are/were(?) some FGvsFG gank groupmembers that started to field that view using disrepectful language towards the non-gank group players when rps all of a sudden became a very important factor in their lives. So the conflict between the FGvsFG vs Realmwar groups is a case of the small, but oh so very vocal minority, that gave the group the bad reputation. As everyone knows from real life, negative views are darn hard to get rid of, you have to work very hard for it.
 

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think its called RvR. realm vs realm. so i would love to be able to share something with my fellow mids.. give speed share from hunters. although i realise this i totally respect 1 on 1 fights that you run into. just check your fellows hp is he winning or its a close fight then i dont add cause these days 1 on 1 encounters are so rare. however if i am allready at the location when the fight starts i engage my assssss off
 

Kettil Einherjer

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Just silly imo.. I lvld my crocring for one purpous... to aid fellow midgardians.

Usually it's stealthers that comes along needing a ride wich makes me happy since thats why i lvld the ring.. to help people.

the back side is however when im out soloing wich i mostly do, people follows me for speed.. then add on nice 1v1 encounters.. 1v1 encounters are so rare and hard to get as skald so when i do get them i prefer dying in that encounter then getting help really =)

but aslong as people following me around for speed respect that im soloing ( if thats what i wanna do ) i don't mind the so called speed leeches" at all =)
 

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Oro said:
Regarding the ongoing 1FG vs 1FG Quake 3 attitude - that dies when New Frontiers comes.

Always looked upon you as a funny guy Roo, don't ruin that by turning into some Turamber person. :(
 

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