Advice for a Wanderer the chanter

[Karnage]

Unless you want an infil hunting you down for the night again, dont /laugh at his body, thats only there 'cos ur lame ass pets dont lose their target when it stealths.

Signing out to go try and find you to gank you yet again...

Kane.

P.S.

for those that knew me last time I had Kane in BG, and I said I was rolling him, thrust is sooo much better against mid tanks than slash... I can solo a zerker no problem now

 

[Dherkova]

Originally posted by ASq.Karnage
thrust is sooo much better against mid tanks than slash...

Mid chain is weak against thrust, ok. BUT...

Originally posted by ASq.Karnage
I can solo a zerker no problem now

Zerkers use studded, and it's resistant against thrust, vulnerable to slash. So...

 

[Skopti]

Originally posted by ASq.Karnage
I can solo a zerker no problem now

A blue con, sitting on his hands, afk zerker you mean.

Drokki tore infils to pieces 2 at a time, I can't imagine any even con zerker falling to an infil in BG1.

I relished that PA hitting cos I knew I'd be handing the infil his ass in a nice tidy package in 2 or 3 hits.

Only guys I didnt like were those damn casters who refused to let me close with them for a proper fight.

And while on the subject, is it me or is there a huge increase in alb casters in BG1?

 

[Karnage]

Re: Re: Advice for a Wanderer the chanter

Originally posted by Dherkova


Mid chain is weak against thrust, ok. BUT...



Zerkers use studded, and it's resistant against thrust, vulnerable to slash. So...

Yes, but now i'm specced thrust, which uses dex, as slash you can only get your strength to about 120 with items and starting as briton with +10 str

My dex is currently over 150 on Kane, meaning I hit harder... and I suppose to prove it i'll have to go gank another zerker <sigh>...

 

[toughguy]

thrust inf vs zerk = no chance in bg. u hit for 40dmg main hand and 20 off hand when it hits zerker has 600+ hps zerker kills u in 2 hits.

 

[misses]

eh.. not really i pwned sum zerkers that time i was there

i hit for like 120(-20/50) dmg whith my main hand
don't make allot of hits whith my off hand

as i had about 500(498) hp's i was almost even and i don't think zerkers got more then 650 hp's

i pwned sum zerkers there, even whith my pa thata does 275 iso 350 dmg

whoeveru are are thoughguy ur not as though as u talk
then it also depends if ur not gimped

like that zerker i met in bg (mheat) he hits for like 42 max in beaver mode ( no i am not lieing), but blue conned mobs hit harder then that

 

[Dherkova]

Re: Re: Re: Advice for a Wanderer the chanter

Originally posted by ASq.Karnage


Yes, but now i'm specced thrust, which uses dex, as slash you can only get your strength to about 120 with items and starting as briton with +10 str

My dex is currently over 150 on Kane, meaning I hit harder... and I suppose to prove it i'll have to go gank another zerker <sigh>...

Well, let's see:
Briton slash with +10 str = base str 70, lvl 24, that makes str 77 max it with items so u have = 113 str, slash is 100% str so ur efficience is 113.
Saracen thrust ( thrust is 50% str 50% dex) with +10 str/dex, lvl 24, that makes str 67 and dex 109 base, max with items, so u have: 103 str and 145 dex. Cause it is 50% each, then ur efficience is around: 124 points. That is a 9.7% more than with slash.
Now against midgard studded:
With slash u have around a 10% more cause it's vulnerable, so u have a total of +10% to ur damage.
With thrust, u have a 9.7% more than slash, but studded is resistant, so u have a -10%, total of: -0.3%.
Seeing the difference in damage (just damage), u do a 10.3% more with slash than with thrust against midgard studded at lvl 24.

 

[doneagle]

if they do the hamsterdance your dead as simple as that !!

I play a 24 infi in bg1, Dex at 150+ , str at 95 also use thrust ( 50% dex , 50%str ) and when i PA them, and 2 garrote's he lost 1/3rd of his life. But he zerged and hit me twice and i was dead.

You can't win from a zerker as infi , it's as simple as that. And if you say you can,you better go post on vnboards. A lvl 20 nightshade can kill 3 lvl 50 hero's there.

 

[Loveless]

How can you gimp a zerker?

They are like one ov the easiest classes ever too spec...

Only way your gona gimp yourself is by "balancing" points over all your wep skills, an tbh....i dont think any1 is that retarded

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

You could accidentally click 'mystic' as a pose to viking when creating the char, then try hamstering with it as as runemaster. Perhaps thats what happened here...

 

[vintervargen]

-- I can solo a zerker no problem now --

PM me for time/place

ps. 700 hp so get some dmg add before we start

 

[sto]

Zerkers are possible but comes down to total shock.

I have gone for zerkers on several occassions and have managed to kill them but you can see from there reactions that you have just made them shite there pants and are trying to hit there style button.

If they are expecting it or are alert, you have little to no chance, and if they rat mode on ya, you'll be eating grass very soon.

 

[Karnage]

Originally posted by vintervargen
-- I can solo a zerker no problem now --

PM me for time/place

ps. 700 hp so get some dmg add before we start

That defeats the whole point of being an infiltrator, no suprise attack, u will just have ur finger hovering over the zerk and stick buttons.

In a duel with a prepared zerker, if i miss my CS, i get them down to about half health, my PA gets them down about 1/3rd hp, then u got an extra style or 2 before they react and hit you, plus they wont zerk immediately, as they will be pooing their pants

 

[Adralend]

Originally posted by Loveless
How can you gimp a zerker?

They are like one ov the easiest classes ever too spec...

Only way your gona gimp yourself is by "balancing" points over all your wep skills, an tbh....i dont think any1 is that retarded

saw one who made a paladin with 100 % crush & shield. no chants at all ^^

 

[Conchabar]

karnage unless the zerker was a complete utter n00b which maybe the case for all ure killls i doubt a zerker would let u kill him ive seen a zerker 1 shot ns pfft

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Ive one shot NS's and im a skald!

Although I've now witnessed it myself, a zerker, killed by an infil. However the zerker was lvl20, sitting down and a complete muppet. I cant ever see an assasin class winning on even terms against even the dumbest of zerkers, regardless of the elemt of surprise. Zerkers simply dont panic when they get hit by assasins, they smile and collect the RP

 

[Karnage]

whatever you say I still know I killed a yellow con zerker

he did the hampster dance.

i had about half health, he had none and was eating dirt.

i got 4 RPs.

end of story

kthxbye.

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

*cough* bollocks *cough*

I have to get the last word

 

[AbPoon]

Hmmmm at level 50 infils normally last between 2 and 4 styled hits so tbh with bg infils with their crappy evade and zerkers still having alot of hp and 20 second rat i really cant see how you could win seeing as you wont have the full 3 step CS chain, youll only have PA which has no stun.

It will give you a head start in damage yes but the better armour, alot more hp,higher weapon skill, parry, higher str and the tbh totally brutal dmg of L axe will down you quick, only infils pulling off the full PA 3 hit chain gives them a chance vs zerkers, if they dont get all 3 hits in or if they fail their CD then they are shagged and you havent got the chain ^^

 

[mohaddyn]

Originally posted by toughguy
thrust inf vs zerk = no chance in bg. u hit for 40dmg main hand and 20 off hand when it hits zerker has 600+ hps zerker kills u in 2 hits.

Even a cleric can kill tanks if they play well.

As for infs vs. zerkers:
Sure, an inf taking on a zerker is brave.
The outcome of that battle is NOT given, though. With the right use of poison, styles and keen, cunning plans am infiltrator can solo about anyhting that does not fight its wars through others (i.e. pets, etc.) and/or from a distance.

Even at lvl 50 infils, if they play well, can solo zerkers.
Just ask Cathrine& Kithara.
(No criticism/judgement, just to prove a point)

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

No.. I said I get the last word dammit!

 

[SilverHood]

easiest way to kill zerkers is to kite them

start with a BS2, snare poison and disease
once both poisons have stuck, you use a weapon in the 2H slot which has DoT on it. Hit him with DoT...

Then run like hell.

Once DoT runs out, go back for another go... zerker will still be snared like a hypnotised rat, so wont be going anywhere

Aply DoT and Str debuff posions.

Open with BS2 if you can, and you got yourself a dead zerker

 

[Conchabar]

As i said earlier unless the zerker is a complete n00b he wouldn't get killed by a infi pluss if this was in emain the Zerker would hopefully have purge ip = Dead infi kthx

<--- gets the last word in

 

[lobsang-ludd]

as someone said "Even clerics can kill a tank if they play right"

'Tis troo, I did that the other day

-Lobsang Ludd, the utterly stupid lvl 23 Cleric

 

[SilverHood]

poor paladins... can't kill anything

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

they can kill thanes

last word ---> Monkey

 

[Conchabar]

Originally posted by BlitheringIdiot
they can kill thanes

last word ---> Monkey

Anyone can kill thanes

Last word ==> M0000

 

[Karnage]

i didnt manage to find another solo zerker before i capped my RPs (((

and like i said, i killed him, he didnt kill me. end of story as far as im concerned

last word ===> TBH!

 

[badazz]

Ive soloed a yellow con zerker before. It can be done. But saying that, on the other 323 attempts they owned me. Maybe i got lucky.

 

[ye-roon]

Well now that we all are talking about pwning zerkers in bg1. I have a friar his name is darkron. and in melee i PWN all other melee classes i've solo-ed against. From skalds to warriors, from ns to sb. Even solo-ed a champ once. Never tried a hero since the hibbies never travel solo. But i'm sure i'll pwn hero's too.

And yes i also pwn zerkers. Yesterday i was just minding my own buisness and killed a ranger. Then 2 lame skalds came to me from behind, with no end, and a chant that regens almost nothing, i almost got one dead.

too say it in short Friar pwns your ass.