abu musad al-zarqawi.. got im!

[Kinag]

hes probably not even dead. that dude have been "killed" a few times before.

so unless anyone BUT USA or anyone else thats a US lapdog do the DNA analysis of his body and acually PROOVE its him, i aint gonna believe in it.

remember they supposedly been killing Usama bin laden a few times to.....

Exactly, another reason why I'm against the government of the USA.

They try to put themselves in a good view and to make the population of the US feel safe, but they even fail to do so by lying about it.

 

[Lamp]

I do not believe that this is untrue.

There's no point. They would have done it ages ago otherwise.

Lets face it. People like that become martyrs. Alive or dead, these figurehead terrorist leaders inspire new generations to take up their cause.

Even if they get Bin Laden it won't end. Someone else will take their place and so on and so on.

To defeat this type of religion-based terrorism not confined to any one geographical location is impossible.

This death means nothing.

Anyone who thinks this will have any effect on reducing acts of terrorism are being naive. What do you think will happen ? Oh, gosh, our leader has been shot. Oh my. I've seen the error of my ways and will give up my anti-American sentiments and start growing flowers in a hippy community in Sunderland.

 

[Darzil]

Yeah, there is only one way to beat Terrorism.

You got to wipe out both injustice and the perception of injustice.

That way you wipe out all justified terrorism, and public feeling marginises the rest.

However, I've not seen any governments talking about even trying this, so the 'fight against terrorism' will never end.

Darzil

 

[Nosufer]

hes probably not even dead. that dude have been "killed" a few times before.

so unless anyone BUT USA or anyone else thats a US lapdog do the DNA analysis of his body and acually PROOVE its him, i aint gonna believe in it.

remember they supposedly been killing Usama bin laden a few times to.....

They used fingerprint, DNA and visual idetification on him according to reports. The US uses the best DNA identification system on the planet giving a likely odds of the DNA beloging to someone else being 1 in 1 trillion. Oh and AFIS (automatic fingerprint identification system) is also pretty good

 

[Lamp]

Yeah, there is only one way to beat Terrorism.

You got to wipe out both injustice and the perception of injustice.

That way you wipe out all justified terrorism, and public feeling marginises the rest.

However, I've not seen any governments talking about even trying this, so the 'fight against terrorism' will never end.

Darzil

Please explain how this would stop a two-man sleeper cell in a small town in Northern England not to let off nerve-gas in a deodorant can in the London Underground by "wiping out injustice and the perception of injustice".

You CANNOT beat Terrorism. Period. Full stop. End of.

All anyone can do is what they are already doing m8

 

[Marc]

If he isnt dead then he at least captured. I mean, to all the conspiracy theorists, if this wasnt the case, all the guy has got to do is get himself on al jeezira (sp) saying "im not dead at all" etc etc

 

[Darzil]

They used fingerprint, DNA and visual idetification on him according to reports. The US uses the best DNA identification system on the planet giving a likely odds of the DNA beloging to someone else being 1 in 1 trillion. Oh and AFIS (automatic fingerprint identification system) is also pretty good

Do you know why the DNA system in the US has so few duplications ?

People believed it was perfect, and there would be done. So they did a database cleanup to remove the duplications, as they 'had to be errors'.

That was a few years ago now, though, it may be better now !

Darzil

 

[Darzil]

Please explain how this would stop a two-man sleeper cell in a small town in Northern England not to let off nerve-gas in a deodorant can in the London Underground by "wiping out injustice and the perception of injustice".

You CANNOT beat Terrorism. Period. Full stop. End of.

All anyone can do is what they are already doing m8

No, as I said, such things would be marginalised, and couldn't be stopped. The problem now is that there is terrorism which a large % of people in certain countries, whilst they don't necessarily support, don't oppose.

I still believe what I said.

Do you know what created Bin Laden, and gave him his grudge against the US ?

He was US trained and funded in the war in Afganistan against the Soviet Union, with promises that the US would help them rebuild the country. When the war ended, the US walked away, leaving them with a shattered country and nothing to rebuild it with. The US created Bin Laden.

Now, I honestly believe that some in the US and other countries know this, which is why so much work is being put into rebuilding Iraq and Afganistan now. It doesn't get as much press attention as the war, though. It's also going to take a long time for people to trust the west in many countries, the walking away from Afganistan by the US wasn't exactly an isolated occurrance.

Darzil

 

[Nosufer]

Do you know why the DNA system in the US has so few duplications ?

People believed it was perfect, and there would be done. So they did a database cleanup to remove the duplications, as they 'had to be errors'.

That was a few years ago now, though, it may be better now !

Darzil

Well the DNA system they use now is the US is better than the UK one and is better than the one they used several years ago (DNA identification is getting better and better each year), they use a system called Codis, where as the UK uses STR+, both of these look at the STR markers in your DNA.

The UK one iirc uses 12 STR's (STR = short tandem repeats) where as the US one uses 16. One of the reasons for the US one using 16 is because of the amount of inbreeding that was going on in the mid/south US. If families are inbreeding then the DNA sequences are going to be almost identical (since you take 50% fof your DNA from you mum and 50% from your dad). So if your mum and dad happen to be brother and sister it can be a problem, this has been a problem in some cases in north scotland where to this day cases of inbreeding are still happening and obviously if these inbred people are committing crimes identification can be a problem.

These errors you mention i'm not familar with but could be related to the things i mentioned above, in the old system two DNA sequences that using that system are identical could have been mistaken for being duplicates but actually could have been an inbred individual, which is why the US switched to Codis.

 

[Ctuchik]

They used fingerprint, DNA and visual idetification on him according to reports. The US uses the best DNA identification system on the planet giving a likely odds of the DNA beloging to someone else being 1 in 1 trillion. Oh and AFIS (automatic fingerprint identification system) is also pretty good

if its USA thats doing the testing i wouldent believe the results even if my life were depending on it. they also had 100% "proof" of iraq having missiles that could reach USA. guess what, they never found any missiles that were even remotly usable for that purpose. and the only proof USA had on the chemical weapons were the RECIEPS USA had for SELLING the shit to Saddam in the FIRST place! but thats uncomfortable for them so they love to forget that.


if USA dont want ppl to have chemical weapons they should STOP SELLING THE SHIT TO THEM!

 

[Kathal]

hes probably not even dead. that dude have been "killed" a few times before.

so unless anyone BUT USA or anyone else thats a US lapdog do the DNA analysis of his body and acually PROOVE its him, i aint gonna believe in it.

remember they supposedly been killing Usama bin laden a few times to.....

lol. You are aware that Iraq’s al Qaeda has made a public statement that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is dead and that they will continue al-Zarqawi's work in Iraq??
You probably believe that Elvis and Hitler still lives too

 

[Marc]

Well the DNA system they use now is the US is better than the UK one and is better than the one they used several years ago (DNA identification is getting better and better each year), they use a system called Codis, where as the UK uses STR+, both of these look at the STR markers in your DNA.

The UK one iirc uses 12 STR's (STR = short tandem repeats) where as the US one uses 16. One of the reasons for the US one using 16 is because of the amount of inbreeding that was going on in the mid/south US. If families are inbreeding then the DNA sequences are going to be almost identical (since you take 50% fof your DNA from you mum and 50% from your dad). So if your mum and dad happen to be brother and sister it can be a problem, this has been a problem in some cases in north scotland where to this day cases of inbreeding are still happening and obviously if these inbred people are committing crimes identification can be a problem.

These errors you mention i'm not familar with but could be related to the things i mentioned above, in the old system two DNA sequences that using that system are identical could have been mistaken for being duplicates but actually could have been an inbred individual, which is why the US switched to Codis.

fuck me, so DNA testing is 100% useless in Wigan?

 

[Kathal]

fuck me, so DNA testing is 100% useless in Wigan?

Yep. Nobody will find out that your dad is also your brother.
Naa I'm kidding.

 

[Nosufer]

fuck me, so DNA testing is 100% useless in Wigan?

HAHAHAHAHAHHA yes mate, Wigan and anything south of Leicester

 

[Jarahl]

About fucking time they got him. Cant count how many times I've been scrambled out to search fucking Al Hartah and Qurmat Ali area for that bastard. One time we even entered Basrah because we had visual on his car.

He is scum of the earth. Killing innocents in a war is just pathedic. Kill soldiers in war cus they know what they are doing and knows the risks, killing mr and mrs johnson while drinking their tea is just wrong.

Al-Zargawi has killed lots of innocents, he deserved what came to him, that ******!!

 

[lilmissnaughty]

on the old virgins front:

who cares if he gets 19, 72 or even 103 virgins.
fact is none of em will be able to do a decent blowjob an will prolly mostly lay there like a sack of spuds during sex.
they should wish for a harem of surgically retightened experienced nymphos if they wanna enjoy teh afterlife tbh.