about healers

[poppamies]

Ok, so when the savages is going to get nerfed, we all know all will whine about healers.
What would u like to do to "fix" em ?
Sincu u just cant take out the CC the healer has and think thats fine, since thats what they do, CC and heal, thay have no offence, exept an unspeccable hammer.
Just take the healers CC away would be like taking weapon spec away from tanks, or taking away DDs from casters.
So instead of just yelling remove CC from healers, try to come up with a real fix.
Any ideas ?

 

[Pin]

remove interrupt on attack speed debuff - already fixed in 1.63


other than that, a general nerf to CC, instead of the hack that is Determination

 

[behatch]

stlong whine inc!

 

[Flimgoblin]

you don't need damage if you can hold someone still whilst someone else hits them

give healers the smite line there you go - damage

though I think once the asd is gone healers are still superb support but probably not needing nerfed immediately (though I'd like to see clerics get a level 50 baseline stun too... delving at 11s of course )

 

[behatch]

nerfing healers is the stupidest thing i have ever heard

theres allready a shortage,ruin the game even more when they are nerfed

not that i give a shit becuz i dont need healers xDDD

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Whats wrong with healers?

bards without speed/end imo

or

druid without a pet if they spec like that

 

[behatch]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
Whats wrong with healers?

bards without speed/end imo

or

druid without a pet if they spec like that

lol guess-there overpowered according to albs

 

[freeco]

Dont think that healers need a nerf. Should be ae-stun then but.. is it really THAT über? Maybe it is.. play mostly stealther so...

U cant simply give them smite line since mid dont have any other CC class.

 

[VodkaFairy]

healers are an ok class.. it's just the current mid group setup that makes all classes shine so much (shaman, healers, savages, but not skalds )

 

[Stallion-]

to many instas... ASD debuff fixed in 1.63 as Pin said...

 

[ab_fluid]

remove asd, done 1.63 goodo, mebbes remove insta stun but leave casted version, as only other thing i can see thats annoying is insta ae stun, cast mezz over it

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Stallion-
to many instas... ASD debuff fixed in 1.63 as Pin said...

tbh, i'd happily take half my instas an give em to another class (sham for instance)

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
tbh, i'd happily take half my instas an give em to another class (sham for instance)

insta ae mezz on shammy and remove pbaoe insta disease? ^_^

 

[bouh]

move ae stun to rm rc line and give a bolt range spell
add dd to pac line
move end regen to thane sc

aug/mend healer
mend/pac healer
thane
rm
skald
2 savages
shammy/warr/3rd savage

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
remove asd, done 1.63 goodo, mebbes remove insta stun but leave casted version, as only other thing i can see thats annoying is insta ae stun, cast mezz over it

i will trade ae stun (both castable and insta) for ra like group purge any time of the day

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by bouh
move ae stun to rm rc line and give a bolt range spell

lol?
maybe to sm supp line? ^^

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
insta ae mezz on shammy and remove pbaoe insta disease? ^_^

thinking more about heals, but i dont see why not..


doubt shammys would go for it tho since disease owns

 

[schinkaar]

move ae amnesia to pac line.

 

[duact]

fotm drood pets are owerpowered!

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
thinking more about heals, but i dont see why not..


doubt shammys would go for it tho since disease owns

yus is a velly scary spell

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by old.anubis
i will trade ae stun (both castable and insta) for ra like group purge any time of the day

nono, healer got PR ^_^

 

[Trubble]

Just remove AE stun. Let them keep their insta mez and maybe even insta single target stun.

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
nono, healer got PR ^_^

you can take it as well

 

[Aloca]

Originally posted by old.anubis
i will trade ae stun (both castable and insta) for ra like group purge any time of the day

And in many fights i change my RA GP to PR

 

[old.Tzeentch]

spells wont be moved to other spell lines etc

afaik never been done before

dont expect it to happen either

 

[old.anubis]

well, they can add spells (like sm mezzes & pbae, bard instas etc) and remove them (like wizard ae stun in some patch), that means they _can_ move the spells

but then it will be completely different class
and they should give class respec or smth

 

[old.Tzeentch]

wizard had ae stun?
wth?

 

[old.anubis]

they intended to give it to them
was only on pendragon, appeared to be far too overpowered, so they removed it

 

[old.Tzeentch]

that's pendragon

i mean, there is no precedent for it at all.. they have not removed/moved a spell or line at all from a class

 

[bouh]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
spells wont be moved to other spell lines etc

afaik never been done before

dont expect it to happen either

kk, but that would be a fix for thane class if sc would be improved by end regen chant. End regen buff could be removed from shammy aug line then.
Healer ae mezz could be seriously nerfed and sm mezz could be seriously improved to compansate realm balance. 3 chars in grp with 1st sh and best ae mezz at the same time is too much imo.