about crash on RR:D

[tsaxpinoula]

well after all it seems that primetime RR= crash server

dont you think its about time to get some no primetime RR?

i know i am mid and thats against me byt sometimes its realy awfull to have your main server down

divf a discuss plz

 

[Phule_Gubben]

do it whenever.

It's a 24/7 game so why make such a fuzz about it really?

 

[Herbal]

Have done primetime so its possible will prove it again soon xD

 

[Nuc]

maybe try gathering some ppl who actually know what they are doing.. and dont come with a 200ppl army that kill guards and get spotted etc... we got the 2 first gates down and 3rd to 50%'ish with 32 ppl against midgard a month or so ago.

 

[Dorin]

maybe try gathering some ppl who actually know what they are doing.. and dont come with a 200ppl army that kill guards and get spotted etc... we got the 2 first gates down and 3rd to 50%'ish with 32 ppl against midgard a month or so ago.

you are hibs, they are albs. nuff said.

 

[Lethul]

maybe try gathering some ppl who actually know what they are doing.. and dont come with a 200ppl army that kill guards and get spotted etc... we got the 2 first gates down and 3rd to 50%'ish with 32 ppl against midgard a month or so ago.

and what if their main goals was to have fun with as many albs as possible instead of a small scale elite raid? it doest exactly seem like they had planned this raid

 

[Ilienwyn]

you are hibs, they are albs. nuff said.

And you are a mid that can't do any of these so prefer to set up the alarm clock?

 

[Skilgannon]

maybe try gathering some ppl who actually know what they are doing.. and dont come with a 200ppl army that kill guards and get spotted etc... we got the 2 first gates down and 3rd to 50%'ish with 32 ppl against midgard a month or so ago.

How many were animists?

 

[Flimgoblin]

maybe try gathering some ppl who actually know what they are doing.. and dont come with a 200ppl army that kill guards and get spotted etc... we got the 2 first gates down and 3rd to 50%'ish with 32 ppl against midgard a month or so ago.

we don't have exploitamists

 

[Nuc]

well was a few animists but the main part is getting alot of ff'ers etc.. and sure animists is good enough to take the first wave of guards out but after that all the pets bug themself trying to nuke targets they cant reach cuz they are inside keep and they wont stop trying to nuke em untill they die or their target walks out of range so animist pets dont really kill alot of inc defenders or anything like that.

 

[Nuc]

and what if their main goals was to have fun with as many albs as possible instead of a small scale elite raid? it doest exactly seem like they had planned this raid

then its their own fault that they crash the server.. everyone knows that the server will crash if they zerg like that

 

[Lethul]

then its their own fault that they crash the server.. everyone knows that the server will crash if they zerg like that

no, its goa's fault to not have servers to be able to handle large scale fights. cant even imagine how much upgrading they will have to do to be able to handle frontiers.

 

[Fluid]

we don't have exploitamists

true, but we don't have pallies so we actually have to kill the guards at the RK, we don't have mincers and infs to go over and take 3rd door down before the others, we don't have sos to run though milegates being invulnerable to CC, we don't have bof to get throught these same gates being invulnerable to any heavy melee. Albs are perfectly capable of rr'ing with low numbers, you choose not to as herbal said.

 

[Netcode]

Well its a 24/7 game so who gives a shit.

 

[Pin]

true, but we don't have pallies so we actually have to kill the guards at the RK

You can group heroes with a bard.

we don't have mincers and infs to go over and take 3rd door down before the others

You have no shortage of nightshades able to perform this feat.

we don't have sos to run though milegates being invulnerable to CC

The last 6+ times we took a relic through a milegate we had 50-200 albs defending the wall and never needed SoS (we won't talk about the certain group who did SoS through a blockade and failed )... just replace X albs with X*10 shrooms and be done.

we don't have bof to get throught these same gates being invulnerable to any heavy melee.

All realms have a 'half-bof' now, but refer to above anyway.

Albs are perfectly capable of rr'ing with low numbers, you choose not to as herbal said.

Just as Albs are perfectly capable of doing whatever the feck they want and ignoring useless whines from clueless 'tards.

 

[Archeon]

And you are a mid that can't do any of these so prefer to set up the alarm clock?

Just an FYI, not every Mid went on that raid. Not every Mid agreed with it. Its like saying "All Albs Zerg" even though you know that some solo and some only do 8v8.

Generalisation is bad m'kay?

 

[Killrake]

true, but we don't have pallies so we actually have to kill the guards at the RK, we don't have mincers and infs to go over and take 3rd door down before the others, we don't have sos to run though milegates being invulnerable to CC, we don't have bof to get throught these same gates being invulnerable to any heavy melee. Albs are perfectly capable of rr'ing with low numbers, you choose not to as herbal said.

Damn well said !!!!!!

 

[Fluid]

You can group heroes with a bard.

Yes, heroes don't have plate, insane AF, best agro holding abilities ingame as pallies do though do they?

You have no shortage of nightshades able to perform this feat.

Taken from duskwave:

Minstrel 941
Infiltrator 851
Nightshade 526

do i really need to say any more? we have absoloutly nowhere near the amount of infs you have, let alone mincers, who have chain, ablative chant etc.

The last 6+ times we took a relic through a milegate we had 50-200 albs defending the wall and never needed SoS (we won't talk about the certain group who did SoS through a blockade and failed )... just replace X albs with X*10 shrooms and be done.

so what? does that make my point any less relevant? i said you can sos though a milegate with a small raid force

All realms have a 'half-bof' now, but refer to above anyway.

Maybe you should see above, and 'half-bof' isn't full bof is it?

Just as Albs are perfectly capable of doing whatever the feck they want and ignoring useless whines from clueless 'tards.

Only whine i see is from you, i merly stated that albs are perfectly capable of pulling off a RR with a small force, maybe you should get off your high horse before calling people tards.

 

[Antedeluvian]

true, but we don't have pallies so we actually have to kill the guards at the RK, we don't have mincers and infs to go over and take 3rd door down before the others, we don't have sos to run though milegates being invulnerable to CC, we don't have bof to get throught these same gates being invulnerable to any heavy melee. Albs are perfectly capable of rr'ing with low numbers, you choose not to as herbal said.

You have Heros/shieldmasters+Mentalists HoT, you have NSs who can use rams, you have Group purge and BaoD making you not only inmune to CC but amost to all kinds of magic dmg, you have instants to mezz the forces at gates even under interruptions.... and you have shroomsists.

I call your poor attempt to justificy (sp?) the animists exploiters bullshit

 

[Calo]

albs know they would never get the relics if they had even numbers as mids they could take them with nice tacks tho... if mids would bring a 500+ zerg u will feel how hard savages can hit

 

[Fluid]

You have Heros/shieldmasters+Mentalists HoT, you have NSs who can use rams, you have Group purge and BaoD making you not only inmune to CC but amost to all kinds of magic dmg, you have instants to mezz the forces at gates even under interruptions.... and you have shroomsists.

I call your poor attempt to justificy (sp?) the animists exploiters bullshit

see above post, go away, come back, re-write, no-where do i try to justify animists, they need a nerf, they are getting a nerf so stop putting words in my mouth.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Yes, heroes don't have plate, insane AF, best agro holding abilities ingame as pallies do though do they?

they get evade 1 and with HoTs you'll do fine...

the reason the animists are so useful on keep takes is that the guards go for the pets instead of the players, and the pets weaken the uber purples by increasing the attacker count so much that you can kill them fairly easily.

Nothing like it in either alb or mid (and you don't need shrooms to nuke people - they're there to lag them to death)

 

[Fluid]

they get evade 1 and with HoTs you'll do fine...

the reason the animists are so useful on keep takes is that the guards go for the pets instead of the players, and the pets weaken the uber purples by increasing the attacker count so much that you can kill them fairly easily.

Nothing like it in either alb or mid (and you don't need shrooms to nuke people - they're there to lag them to death)

yes, heroes with hot is healable, but they don't keep agro near as well as a pally, or have such high AF/heal chant. As for animists, i have seen them in action, they are an overpowered class i don't doubt that, but ur wrong on 1 thing, they don't go for shrooms, shrooms agro count as the casters and guards are on the caster of the shroom VERY quickly. Meaning we have to keep the caster alive while people kill the guard.

 

[nol]

we don't have exploitamists

you had exploitomancers which funnily enough, you used to get a relic

 

[nol]

The last 6+ times we took a relic through a milegate we had 50-200 albs defending the wall and never needed SoS (we won't talk about the certain group who did SoS through a blockade and failed )... just replace X albs

Um realistically, we can't even get 200 on the raid We could have 199 at the milegate, and send Domain to get the relic I guess.

 

[Pin]

Yes, heroes don't have plate, insane AF, best agro holding abilities ingame as pallies do though do they?

Does any of that matter with regard to your point?
albs can do a raid with small numbers without killing guards. so can hibs, so your points are all moot.

Taken from duskwave:

Minstrel 941
Infiltrator 851
Nightshade 526

do i really need to say any more? we have absoloutly nowhere near the amount of infs you have, let alone mincers, who have chain, ablative chant etc.

You were talking about a raid with small numbers, not a stealth zerg - so why mention numbers if you have over ~10 active, available shades?
Let alone the guards by the door 3 which make dropping it with a small number of stealthers impossible/impractical anyway - you use trebs, so stealther comments moot again.

so what? does that make my point any less relevant? i said you can sos though a milegate with a small raid force

Maybe you should see above, and 'half-bof' isn't full bof is it?

Well, actually it does. Trying to SoS+BoF through a proper blockade with a small force is doomed to failure.

Only whine i see is from you, i merly stated that albs are perfectly capable of pulling off a RR with a small force

I count "we don't have, but you do" as whine - you did this 4 times.
You stated "we have to..." when actually you don't.
There's no whine from me, just pointing out your post was 90% useless.

All realms are capable of doing a relic raid in small numbers without alerting the enemy until "The forces of XXX have removed the YYY relic from ZZZ's shrine", but then again all realms are entitled to do whatever they wish and able to bring 500+ people and maybe crash the server.

 

[Tzeentch]

lol nol

 

[Rulke]

Imo the main advantage to animists on RRs is the same as why people used to dump 100's of containers near gates in EVE, people coming into the area lag so much they are easy targets.

The fact they can near insta kill the 1st wave of guards is just a bonus

Edit: The combo of mincers/infils will be more effective for 3rd door tactics than an equal number of SBs/NSs. Especially if you can find some warlord mincers.

 

[Pin]

Um realistically, we can't even get 200 on the raid We could have 199 at the milegate, and send Domain to get the relic I guess.

I said replace X albs with X*10 shrooms. 2fg hibs with 2000 shrooms at a milegate is more of a defense than 200 albs anyway

 

[Tzeentch]

well if you had tons of shrooms up (say 6 animists, 8 groups), and turned up with the typical size relic defence force, around 10-12fg+, the defence force would not really have an issue with the shrooms.