A worrying trend but only we can fix it.

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cHodAX

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In recent days more and more people have either left Prydwen for another server or decided to terminate/deactivate thier accounts. I know I can be a little prone to exaggeration but this week has been a watershed for people's dis-enchantment with the game. The server stats don't lie and Prydwen is around 200 players down for November, the way December has started that trend may well continue and become a flood. Now some people will say 'Alot of those people have gone to Excal' however the figures don't justify that claim. Therefore the vast majority of those no longer on Prydwen are not playing the game for whatever reason. When I see all kinds of people eg. hardcore RvR players, role players and PvE junkies leave the game I can see that we have come a crossroads.

Now onto the reasons. RvR is stale on this server for 1001 reasons, at it's best this was one of the very best RvR servers in the world. Now it is just a pale shadow of it's former self for whatever reason and even with the 1001 problems it is still not justified. Personlly I see the main problem as this, slow patching and poor balancing. Now I am not going to use this post as an attack on GOA, everyone knows my feelings on them and how they operate. This post is about Prydwen and the game itself. Many non-stealthers in Albion have all but given up on RvR for the last couple of months, that has had a knock-on effect with the other realms. Entire guilds have left the server because they felt they cannot compete unless they zerg. Well my answer to that is this, Zerg like mad if you have to and wait for 1.65 to address some balance issues. Don't give up, adapt. If the Mids/Hibs complain then remember this, you pay £8 a month to have fun not to be told by people on another realm that you suck if you run more than 1fg even though you can't compete. Win = fun, do whatever it takes to start winning and see how it feels.

Now a plea to the Guilds, we as a realm/guild/alliances need to start running regular RvR nights again and even if you get your arse handed to you keep going back, as an Avalonian caster I know more than most how hard it can be to keep going back time after time but the alternative is killing mobs night after night for loot you will never use.

That is it really, the whole point is for people to get out there and try make RvR fun again and do whatever it takes to compete. If you need to run 4fg to hold a milegate then do it, don't be unhappy because you have to zerg for a while because you know a patch is on the horizon that will help address some of the problems. The real test is this, all those people who really like this game but are bored to tears need to get out into the frontiers and keep trying no matter what.

Trust me, it is the only way things are going to get any better in the near future.
 
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Esoteric

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Interesting post chod.

I agree with the gist of what you are saying.

I don't know what the stats are like nov last year but ppl go on hols and take breaks around this time of year + exams and family bits to do.

RvR is not great at the mo due to fotm mids and slowly taking over that is the new zerg from the /level 30 hibbie command (which has been removed). Many people have moved servers not necessarily to play fotm but just to escape. I think ffx or whatever it is has attracted a few players too who are fed up.

I rvr a fair bit but when things start to go wrong or tipped extremely unfairly out of our favour its time to craft or do some other ingame adminy stuff, like spam sycho with LOL! to get some slight revenge.

Im not a goa fanboi but I am starting to like goa and the service I get is quite good now thats just me.

However, I am increasingly fed up with mythic, do they actually test stuff? whoever was in charge of oking current savages to go live need to be fired and thats no overstatement its screwed the game for other realms who like to rvr.

Zerging back is needed and we have started to work together esp on realm defense. On a side note Im increasingly impressed with ilum in pulling together the realm and guiding what needs to be done in rvr situations both defensive and offensive, he's albs best warlord for a long long time.

Anyway enough of my dribble late at night while I craft, a nice debate has started ^^.
 
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old.GeForce

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its just a trend, I can remember something similar last year :)

and also, after christmas we'll probably be seeing new faces on the server, which'll be nice
 
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Cavex ElSaviour

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Can only comment on the reason why less ppl RvR nowadays. If i look at myself, Getting a "random" group is hard, and 9 out of ten times useless. Guild/alliance groups are still fun but hardly happen atm. Most nights i only have a few hours time, and i can be damned to spend 3/4 of my times waiting on a Pad for a group. Not so long ago i could just port, start/be invited to a pick up group, make some RP's and have fun. Now? <shrug>
 
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hrodelbert

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want to get a good group roll a cleric have madskillz and join an rvr guild , simple
 
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Cavex ElSaviour

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Already rolled cleric (damn those mid thiry levels) and I enjoy DoA far too much to join a RvR guild.
 
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ilum

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I think RvR on Prydwen is picking up, its really not that bad.
 
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old.windforce

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getting better again

i actually did get a group yesterday and made rps (and i wasn't even in df)
 
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hangianix

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Originally posted by old.windforce
getting better again

i actually did get a group yesterday and made rps (and i wasn't even in df)
With infi? ;)
 
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Shike

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duno but last 2 weeks i have seen tons of albs for some reason :) Mostly in HW roaming around in 2-3fgs+ and even some 1fg-parties aswell here and there and FL is out aswell so it really aint all dead it seems atm, at least not to me.¨

Regarding the balanceissues, well we hibs suffer from same problem tbh but we still keep going on, the worst shit ever imho was asd. Was impossible to heal or do anything else as support and that made support very very ungrateful to play overall and at least I got fed up with it. When only MoChealing and instas works for a drood something is badly fucked up. Asd-ing healers are sorted now tho and savages remains until end of jan (when I expect 1.65 to arrive) and should make a lot of people peek out in RVR once again.

GOA has done their fair share to piss ppl off aswell so they have quitted ofc and atm if a new good game came out, masses would leave Prydwen I think. Some have left for SWG and FFXI but not really that many I think.

It wouldnt be as bad if we all played US tbh, we are now on 1.62 and Mythic has just started on 1.67... thats _bad_ imo. Things are going way too slow.
 
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Shike

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oh haha and btw :)

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yup, there are albs out there hehe :p

was a lot more to the right of us that cant be seen on the SS, was busy laughing when I took the SSs so didnt cover it all :)
 
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[Oo]Escape

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Your own fault for standing between Renaris and CS when the alb retake force was on it's way :p


Originally posted by hrodelbert
want to get a good group roll a cleric have madskillz and join an rvr guild , simple


Too many clerics already... well that's my excuse for not getting groups!
Need more sorcerers, minstrels(who play in 'normal' groups) and even mercs! Last night it took us over an hour to find a Paladin, with 50+ online Oo


Like Cavex said, RvR is crap atm mostly because people aren't making the effort. So you join a random group and die useless or wait 50hours for an opted group which disbands after one death. Alot of people still have a bad memory of RvR since midgard had 5+ fotm groups online. It's not like that anymore but if I ask people to RvR, 70% decline outright. Start bringing more to RvR and the psychological damage caused by fotm groups will start to heal :p

More people in Emain = more groups = more regular groups >>> random groups.
 
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Twaize

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Tis so hard to get rvr grps that aren't shite as a pala :(
 
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Esoteric

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Originally posted by Shike
oh haha and btw :)

noalbs1.jpg


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yup, there are albs out there hehe :p

was a lot more to the right of us that cant be seen on the SS, was busy laughing when I took the SSs so didnt cover it all :)

Hehe the chat was amusing ;-)

On our way to keeptakes last night was fun to kill NP and Everlast with our official !"keeptake" zerg. (Killed both alone before fgvsfg but steamrolling made me chuckle).
 
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Sparda_soul

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i stoped playing DAoC proper about 2 months ago
reasons:
1) Infis cant do jack unless you have a bot or in stealther zerg, wich defies the point of being an infi imo
2) reavers dont have det, so are not "uber" enough to RvR
3) Savages and bonedancers, infact the whole fotm grp thing
4) after playing FFXI, DAoC PvE ( the bit i liked about the game) realy realy blows. Ill be back for ToA though :)

DAoC best point is its PvP is unsurpassed in any mmorpg ive played, but its gotten stale and need serious work. Roll on mid summer and the new RvR expansion :)

Both ToA and new RvR will bring back the masses
 
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Shike

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Originally posted by [Oo]Escape
Your own fault for standing between Renaris and CS when the alb retake force was on it's way :p

/snip

More people in Emain = more groups = more regular groups >>> random groups.

well u dont see me complain do u? :) I was just laughing my ass off tbh :) Im happy to see albs out there RVRing at all mate and not just the maggots (read stealtherzergers).

And yes, agree, more ppl out there will raise morale overall after some time etc.. thats how hibs did anyway and we are far more active nowadays overall.
 
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stroopwafel

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Originally posted by Shike
oh haha and btw :)

noalbs1.jpg


noalbs2.jpg


yup, there are albs out there hehe :p

was a lot more to the right of us that cant be seen on the SS, was busy laughing when I took the SSs so didnt cover it all :)


next time dont laugh but nuke you silly luwi :\
 
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Aule Valar

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Originally posted by Cavex ElSaviour
Can only comment on the reason why less ppl RvR nowadays. If i look at myself, Getting a "random" group is hard, and 9 out of ten times useless. Guild/alliance groups are still fun but hardly happen atm. Most nights i only have a few hours time, and i can be damned to spend 3/4 of my times waiting on a Pad for a group. Not so long ago i could just port, start/be invited to a pick up group, make some RP's and have fun. Now? <shrug>

its amazing how many people complain that they ever have guild or alliance grps/rvr events, but never actually try and organise it themselves
if you want rvr, you need to be prepared to organise it not hope others will
 
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old.mattshanes

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Originally posted by Aule Valar
its amazing how many people complain that they ever have guild or alliance grps/rvr events, but never actually try and organise it themselves
if you want rvr, you need to be prepared to organise it not hope others will

So true.

Alb has the classes just not the spirit in once had.

Though seems last few days in rvr albs have been out a fair bit, pryd has become more lively again even less savages too thank fuck xD maybe that's why ^^
 
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Shike

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Originally posted by stroopwafel
next time dont laugh but nuke you silly luwi :\

Naah, a good laughter is always nice now and then :p
 
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Danya

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Originally posted by old.mattshanes
So true.

Alb has the classes just not the spirit in once had.

Though seems last few days in rvr albs have been out a fair bit, pryd has become more lively again even less savages too thank fuck xD maybe that's why ^^
Hush fatty, you'll alert the savages and they'll return in force!
 
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Xeanor

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Mids are already practicing for 1.65 ^^

But FL has RvR grps daily, so ummm.... there's actually active dedicated RvR grps, tbh.
 
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Gamah

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tbh..I found this a few days ago, but in the last few days the server has picked up again. PE and FL are in full swing..and normall albs are comming back to the frountiers, we have also seen NP and eclipse back in business

I think the future is looking up
 
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ilum

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Originally posted by Aule Valar
its amazing how many people complain that they ever have guild or alliance grps/rvr events, but never actually try and organise it themselves
if you want rvr, you need to be prepared to organise it not hope others will

Agreed.
 
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Jace

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Would like to pick up on a point :-

"Well my answer to that is this, Zerg like mad if you have to and wait for 1.65 to address some balance issues. Don't give up, adapt."

I hate zerging and the later point about win = fun doesn't hold water for me. I don't enjoy zerging, it's not fun regardless of the outcome.

Another point is about the people who play the game. I am sick to DEATH of the vast majority of Albs being amazingly picky over the classes they have in their RvR groups. This for me is the main reason people have left the game or simply stopped RvRing.

I think we should all stop and remember that people are behind the characters and stop exlcuding them simply because they don't have, for example, a specific realm ability.
 
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Wij

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Originally posted by Jace
Would like to pick up on a point :-

"Well my answer to that is this, Zerg like mad if you have to and wait for 1.65 to address some balance issues. Don't give up, adapt."

I hate zerging and the later point about win = fun doesn't hold water for me. I don't enjoy zerging, it's not fun regardless of the outcome.

Another point is about the people who play the game. I am sick to DEATH of the vast majority of Albs being amazingly picky over the classes they have in their RvR groups. This for me is the main reason people have left the game or simply stopped RvRing.

I think we should all stop and remember that people are behind the characters and stop exlcuding them simply because they don't have, for example, a specific realm ability.

I thought all Albs lived to zerg :)
 

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