A little help here

[Shun]

I`m gonna try dark age of camelot two and there is something like to know before start playing:

What`s a good dexer/rouguish class in daoc? (i`m a stealth lover, and i want a class that is really good in combat and good to party)



Thank you

 

[chretien]

If you want to play a stealther that gets groups the only real choice is a Minstrel. The other stealth classes are stronger in combat but will rarely get groups unless you join a friendly guild who understand the pain of levelling an assassin.

 

[Shun]

thanks, but what about infiltrator or scout? (i`m really not a big fan of spellcasters, that but i like classes that mix both)

Another question: Is Valewalker and Mercenary good classes?

Thanks

 

[chretien]

Depends what you mean by 'good classes'. People enjoy playing them so they are 'good' in that respect. If you like classes that mix spellcasting with melee ability then most of the Hib classes would be good for you - perhaps a Ranger as you said you like rogue types.
Infiltrators are fairly strong solo against other players but you'll find it hard to level one as they are not popular in groups. Scouts are more likely to get into a group but aren't as strong in melee. They do get to use a bow though.

 

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Minstrels only get good at High RR/ High ML as well, I dont think Infs etc need MLS as much.

 

[Thegreatest]

I`m gonna try dark age of camelot two ...

wow, Dark Age of Camelot 2 is out?? Why can't I find any info about it? Please tell mehh!! I wan't to play too!!
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[Danya]

thanks, but what about infiltrator or scout? (i`m really not a big fan of spellcasters, that but i like classes that mix both)

Another question: Is Valewalker and Mercenary good classes?

Thanks

Minstrel isn't a spellcaster - it's a hybrid melee, which sounds like what you're after. Basically you get a bunch of instant cast spells you can use while meleeing and some songs which you can't. It's a very powerful class, but very hard to use effectively. Something like one of the archer classes (hunter, ranger, scout) or an assassin (infil, nightshade, shadowblade) is much easier to use. Of those the ranger, hunter, and nightshade get a few magical abilities, but they are mainly melee/archery classes.

 

[Funkybunny]

if i were you i would make a first char.. make it grpable, coz its hard to play a "unwanted in pve" char as yer first char... my best advice is make a s/s tank... they are ALWAYS needed.. and they can solo easy aswell if no grps are around

 

[Tilda]

Basicly in PvE (leveling up) you'll be hard pushed to get a group (imho) as a stealther if your any class other than a minstrel.
I'd advise against the tank option too as with new frontiers they are effectivley obsolete. I'd go with a wizard, RM, SM, eldritch or enchanter, they're both wanted in PvE groups, and also in RvR.

I dont think you'll have a problem leveling up as many are rolling new lvl 1 charachters now to use all the BG's.

Tilda

 

[Shun]

ah, thanks for the advices..

i think i`m gonna try nighshade or infiltrator...don`t know yet..

But mercenary and valewalker sounds good too..so i still need to decide..

thanks anyway =)

 

[Thegreatest]

ah, thanks for the advices..

i think i`m gonna try nighshade or infiltrator...don`t know yet..

But mercenary and valewalker sounds good too..so i still need to decide..

thanks anyway =)

Valewalker is a nice and solid class to start with by the way (if you like hibernia that is...). Cloth armor is cheap and you can solo quite well without much downtime. It's a great class, one of the "not overpowered but not sucky either" classes

 

[Shun]

really? you the first person that tells me that...everyone keeps telling me it`s a hard class to start and go pve alone

 

[Neffneff]

IMO a Valewalker is a very solid class for PvE and RvR if you can develop yer playstyle well. a nice spec PvE wise (still works in RvR) is

48 arboreal path,
44 scythe,
10 parry.

you will probably get a list of other specs from people now...if you play a VW its your choice, just letting you know from experience speccin this way gets you to 50 and then some.

 

[Thegreatest]

really? you the first person that tells me that...everyone keeps telling me it`s a hard class to start and go pve alone

of course there are classes which can be mastered easier, like a pure tank or a pure caster (enchanter, sm, bonedancer are all easy to play). But you wanted a class which had both, and the Valewalker is really the only class that can nuke fairly well from distance and dish out great damage in melee . The fact that your direct damage spell is a lifetap means you don't need to wait to regen health, and if you are out of power you can just try to melee only a few pulls...Both caster and tank drops will be usefull to you (tank drops with +stre/+dex/+qui and caster drops with +dex/+int are both very usefull stats) so finding equipment shouldn't be hard either.

It's your choice in the end, but I can tell you that lvling from 1 to 50 is hard these days due to the lack of groups (especially in hibernia when everyone after 40+ goes to powerlevel @ fins...)

 

[Vindicator]

ah, thanks for the advices..

i think i`m gonna try nighshade or infiltrator...don`t know yet..

But mercenary and valewalker sounds good too..so i still need to decide..

thanks anyway =)

If your go Infil or Nightshade you are picking the main assasin class of Alb / Hib respectively. For a new player starting from scratch they really arent the best class's because not only will you have a difficult time leveling up but when you do hit level 50 and want to go to the high lvl RealmVRealm you will be fighting against people who are in fully tweaked armor using an extra account to have them self buffed up to the maximum and in this game these extra buffs really do make a huge difference. With max buffs an assasin could take out 3-4 unbuffed people without much difficulty I imagine.

Mercenary is a good class but you best be sure you really want to just a tank. That's all you can really do, bash stuff with your 2 weapons. As you gain in Realm status by killing more enemys you will get more abilites to help you have more utility on your character as well as your Master level choice, Banelord giving you good abilites to use in Realm V Realm. You will do the most damage of any tank over time not in a single swing and that class is generally always used no matter the change in fotm setup's, even caster grps can use a good Banelord Merc.

- For PvE as long as you keep your character in good armor and using decent weapons you shouldnt really have a problem leveling up but it can be hard without. It wont be nearly as hard as an assasin thou because they rely usually on hidden or stealth striking damage known as PA or a perforate Artery attack they must do while stealthed directly infront of there target. It means they have to pick certain mobs and cant pick one's which will attack them if they get to close where as with a merc you can simply use your short bow to pull the mob to you by hitting it ;>.

A Valewalker. Probably the closest class you can find in the game at the moment that is a Caster and Melee Fighter at once. Granted his Casting Skillz are no were near the strenght of a real Mage but where you give up doing different types of ranged damage and what not you gain in Defensive abilites and Using weapons to go Toe to Toe with pretty much any Class in the game. You also have access to positional moves which when do in the right order can make spells go off doing huge damage to your target and others near him, the side chain is a very good example.

- While you can deal out very good melee dmg you can also soak up a fair bit with Paladin Plate absorbsion for damage but you wear cloth so lower Armor factor meaning you will take more damage in direct comparasion, but the offset is your armor cost's a small fraction of the very expensive Plate / Chain / Scale armor those big tanks must buy. Also you will find it alot easier leveling this character up as you dont rely on just hitting stuff meaning it isnt as important to keep up to date weapons / armor on you at all times etc. When you hit level 50 you will also find it easy enough to get RvR grps and will be a nasty target for assasins to kill ;>!

to be honest with you, by reading to what you wrote a minstrel really does sound like the type of character that would suit you. They Stealth and so can fight in the stealth wars although they generally have low stealth and therefore get targetted first but no problem really. The minstrel class is equiped with so many toys and tricks you will find your self able to survive / deal with any situation.

As a minstrel you get to wear tank armor, which is Chain in this case. This makes for taking alot less damage than most people. You get to specialise in a weapon type meaning you can defend your self if attacked. Depending on your spec you can hit for some impressive damage but it is really when you combine the mixture of the minstrel's instrutment line and his weapon that he truely becomes deadly. In your instrument line you get abilities such as a Damaging Shout which has a re use timer on it, you get two of them to use and they recharge in about 10s I think it is. So when you use your 'shouts' and begin hitting somebody with your sword you can really deal some nice damage. As a minstrel you also get an instant cast stun spell which at its top level will immobilze the target for 9 secounds allowing you to do either positional damage / Run away, live to fight another day etc ;> Or Begin using your flute, an instrument, to mesmerize him which keeps him in a sleeping state for near a minute I believe. Letting you rest before you fight him again / Run away / or stun him and fight giving you the edge ;>!.

As a minstrel you also get access to speed spells which let you run around at top speed and speed others with you. You get a power regain spell which helps you and all those in your grp regain power faster. You also get a very nice spell called ablative song which will absorb damage dealt onto you when you have it active, you can sing this song when you are fighting at the same time making you a fantastic addition to any group ;>!

Wow im really pimping the minstrel class . I dont actually have a high level minstrel my self but I have played one and played my own one's and loved it. If I was to call any class in daoc the most favoured class i would call the minstrel it. The daoc love child, while I would call Midgard the Daoc Love realm thou ;>. Hibernia has always been innately strong thou due to lower starting numbers and fewer class's than albion.

Well I hoped that helped you some what and sorry if it's too much to read / Too confusing to grasp etc. Its hard to get your nogan around some of this jargon at first but soon it all falls into place and you feel like a Daoc grand master ! If I can elaborate on any other class's or points please feel free to ask as I have played pretty much every class in the game to highest level / in high end Realm V Realm, probably my biggest probably was playing too many class instead of sticking with one and making him uber high etc ;>. But I wouldnt have it any other way.

"Jack of all trades, Master of None ;>"

PS: A rep point if that helped at all please

 

[Shun]

Wow vindicator , you really made me read heheh

Well, thanks alot for the help, you really wrote a lot of good nb info that you don`t find in any place. Anyway, as i said before, i`m just going to buy the game next month, so i can`t tell you yet the class that i`m going to pick because i still can change my mind. But thanks a lot =D

 

[Thegreatest]

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PS: A rep point if that helped at all please

you got my reputation point Vindicator