A Fact

[Straef]

Concentrate on your realm mates killing this game more? than plotting crap like this against such elite forces

Pip talking shit again?

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Again? Always.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Because I say so.

I blame Straef entirely...

Since he seems to be having some trouble letting go I've given our good friend Freggy a helping hand.

If he suddenly decides he does want to post here again and in a civil manner I've got a PM box which is always open...

 

[elbeek]

I blame Straef entirely...

Since he seems to be having some trouble letting go I've given our good friend Freggy a helping hand.

If he suddenly decides he does want to post here again and in a civil manner I've got a PM box which is always open...

But Freggy is like a stubborn skidmark. Just when you think it's gone you realise you missed a bit.

Lets just hope that the knuckle dragger doesn't know doritwat and how to use a dynamic ip

 

[Phule_Gubben]

Is this really true?

necromania
Banned from FreddysHouse!
Rank: Lower than pondlife

If so.

 

[thergador]

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
- Sun Tzu

The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.
- Sun Tzu

i think those two quotes about sum-up what is and has happened in albion

 

[decker]

At all, it's not about that hibs/mids wanna irvr at alb. It's warning/show off how much we like when u AC raid around. And at all, good going -> u AC we strike with 1200 rams.

You stop AC we don't strike with 1200 rams. Your call mates.

 

[psyco]

I blame Straef entirely...

Since he seems to be having some trouble letting go I've given our good friend Freggy a helping hand.

If he suddenly decides he does want to post here again and in a civil manner I've got a PM box which is always open...

<3.

 

[Red HATred]

Ok obviously the situation in Alb is pretty poor in the RvR zone.

Hopefully people in Alb will realise IRVR is a really bad Idea no matter which realm its in. As you noticed Mids took advantage of the fact that Alb had 2 keeps down. All I would like to say is our time will come again soon if that means AC raids which im totally against but its not my position to say on how people play the game.

Just think about this situation we had in our frontier and if we manage to get the relics back in the rightful place lets just keep our frontier clean and tidy from hib/mid and not let them have the advantage like they did before.

IRVR = Bad Idea.

So chin up guys our time will come soon!

Amphrax/Arauddry

P.S.

Sorry for bad english - but you guys get the gist of it.

INsta rvr is just making sure two realms have the advantage on one realm. It is easy Rp farmage , that also is the sole purpose of the insta rvr... rp farmage. The zerging at a defensive position is fun imo. (no not contradicting myselfe, givving my oppinion)
While the whole concept has nothing to do with the SOTG ppl prefer it because it make things easier.
Looking at old fronteers, we had the same thing. The adventurer in each player died once they achieved rr5. From there on all need to be faster and better and more and easier. So they implemented insta rvr.

Main thing ppl are focussed on is getting acknowledgment from the gaming community by achieving realm rank XXXX.
The rp horny ppl are the reason why insta rvr is and will be held.
although hunting in these zones still is fun for some toons , it can be dull to others.

Last night(weekend)beno standoff... it just proved that Albs still had a way in cooperating and holding grounds.
Considdering the fact that the only reason why it was possible to get that bad for Albs was IRVR should avert the wantingness of IRVR.

IRVR is fun untill one mad monk deceides to use the given advantage to his benefit and commence a large scale invasion....

 

[brad]

IRVR is fun untill one mad monk deceides to use the given advantage to his benefit and commence a large scale invasion....

large scale invasions will happen regardless or wether mids have irvr in alb or not. Although irvr still occurs as mids take keep/towers to attain ports making sieging easier.

 

[Flimgoblin]

large scale invasions will happen regardless or wether mids have irvr in alb or not. Although irvr still occurs as mids take keep/towers to attain ports making sieging easier.

not defending against a captured keep means the mid invasion has a lot more momentum from the start, so from the point of view of defending it's a bad idea.

If we're going to have IRVR have it in someone elses frontier

 

[Soulja_IA_]

not defending against a captured keep means the mid invasion has a lot more momentum from the start, so from the point of view of defending it's a bad idea.

If we're going to have IRVR have it in someone elses frontier

No it better in alb land as it gives Horner and Co something to do in mornings.

Having it Mid/Hib is like leaving a Cookie jar open for some cheeky child to steal a cookie from.

(Horner being that cheeky chappie btw)

Soulja

 

[Flimgoblin]

No it better in alb land as it gives Horner and Co something to do in mornings.

Having it Mid/Hib is like leaving a Cookie jar open for some cheeky child to steal a cookie from.

(Horner being that cheeky chappie btw)

Soulja

I'd have thought that the location of IRvR would have much less impact on a 5am ninja raid than on a much lauded primetime raid, since there's noone around to defend against the cookie monsters.

Not that any other realms have cookie monsters of course, it's a purely alb phenomenon.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

I'd have thought that the location of IRvR would have much less impact on a 5am ninja raid than on a much lauded primetime raid, since there's noone around to defend against the cookie monsters.

Not that any other realms have cookie monsters of course, it's a purely alb phenomenon.

Say that any Hibbie who have had IRvR in last year and you find Alb Cookie monster taking the cookie at them times everytime so IRvR Mid/Hib No No

Alb lot less grief play from Cookie monster

Soulja

 

[Tuthmes]

I'd have thought that the location of IRvR would have much less impact on a 5am ninja raid than on a much lauded primetime raid, since there's noone around to defend against the cookie monsters.

Not that any other realms have cookie monsters of course, it's a purely alb phenomenon.

Well Hibs never hade the numbers to defend against cookie monsters, leave alone to monster up something that could take a relic. For example this Saturday morning (when albs ac'd their relic back). 6 Hibs online (2bots, 2lvl 50's), i'm the only one in the frontier. This is from 3am onwards.

You need atleast 16 players to lower a relic shrine. So yes other realms might have cookie monsters, but they just don't have enough teeth to crumble the cookie with (If there where 16 hibs in NF, doubt they all would come to ac a relic, it has happend before that relic gates where open, but certain hibs cba).

So yes, you're correct Flimgoblin. This is purely an alb phenomenon.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

Well Hibs never hade the numbers to defend against cookie monsters, leave alone to monster up something that could take a relic. For example this Saturday morning (when albs ac'd their relic back). 6 Hibs online (2bots, 2lvl 50's), i'm the only one in the frontier. This is from 3am onwards.

You need atleast 16 players to lower a relic shrine. So yes other realms might have cookie monsters, but they just don't have enough teeth to crumble the cookie with (If there where 16 hibs in NF, doubt they all would come to ac a relic, it has happend before that relic gates where open, but certain hibs cba).

So yes, you're correct Flimgoblin. This is purely an alb phenomenon.

So you've already forgot about Giwsakhs early morning raids from last summer, such a selective memory.

 

[Flimgoblin]

So you've already forgot about Giwsakhs early morning raids from last summer, such a selective memory.

and the mid raid not that long ago... though that was midday rather than 5am. Still far from primetime

I didn't say that hibs had cookie monsters _rightatthisverymoment_ but it certainly has them....

Oh I forgot the icon I chose 5 years ago makes me do AC raids

 

[Phule_Gubben]

and the mid raid not that long ago... though that was midday rather than 5am. Still far from primetime

I didn't say that hibs had cookie monsters _rightatthisverymoment_ but it certainly has them....

Oh I forgot the icon I chose 5 years ago makes me do AC raids

Icon? What Icon??

 

[Tuthmes]

So you've already forgot about Giwsakhs early morning raids from last summer, such a selective memory.

Wonder what realm they choose to raid, wonder why too. Anyways, albs seem to dig up the "not primetime" excuse everytime. Primetime seems tobe when everyone has finish'd his dinner, till they goto bed. I for one (and most other also) wouldnt have problem with AC'ing/early morning/afternoon raids, if there are defenders. Funny enough the realm that always gets AC'd is hibs (think atos (mid) did one on hib last year aswell). Shouldnt take long to figure out why.

Yeah ill admit as an alb you don't have any valid point on these boards, cause there's always enough people defending your realm, no matter what time.

If you twist and turn it, you could argue that its a 24/7 game and if your realm doesnt have defenders around the clock, thats though luck for you.
But i think its shown we don't to go that direction, as it leaves 1 realm empty.

Problem has it also that i hardly find it possible to log on albion for example (think others have that aswell). Cause its rather stupid to upset the balance even more.

Try to stop seeing it from a realm perspective for once and see what WE can do to make this game fun for everyone, so everyone can enjoy playing it. In the end you will benefit from it aswell.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

Wonder what realm they choose to raid, wonder why too. Anyways, albs seem to dig up the "not primetime" excuse everytime. Primetime seems tobe when everyone has finish'd his dinner, till they goto bed. I for one (and most other also) wouldnt have problem with AC'ing/early morning/afternoon raids, if there are defenders. Funny enough the realm that always gets AC'd is hibs (think atos (mid) did one on hib last year aswell). Shouldnt take long to figure out why.

Yeah ill admit as an alb you don't have any valid point on these boards, cause there's always enough people defending your realm, no matter what time.

If you twist and turn it, you could argue that its a 24/7 game and if your realm doesnt have defenders around the clock, thats though luck for you.
But i think its shown we don't to go that direction, as it leaves 1 realm empty.

Problem has it also that i hardly find it possible to log on albion for example (think others have that aswell). Cause its rather stupid to upset the balance even more.

Try to stop seeing it from a realm perspective for once and see what WE can do to make this game fun for everyone, so everyone can enjoy playing it. In the end you will benefit from it aswell.

So just because I choose to play Albion I don't have any valid points?

Care to elaborate why then? And plz explain why your points is more valid too while you're at it.

I play this game for fun and I cba whenever the relics are taken neither in what manner. I couldn't care less if relics where taken off peak hours, they have for the last 2 years approx. And as you state, too bad for you if there aren't enough defenders online at that moment.

 

[Straef]

Wonder what realm they choose to raid, wonder why too. Anyways, albs seem to dig up the "not primetime" excuse everytime. Primetime seems tobe when everyone has finish'd his dinner, till they goto bed. I for one (and most other also) wouldnt have problem with AC'ing/early morning/afternoon raids, if there are defenders. Funny enough the realm that always gets AC'd is hibs (think atos (mid) did one on hib last year aswell). Shouldnt take long to figure out why.

Yeah ill admit as an alb you don't have any valid point on these boards, cause there's always enough people defending your realm, no matter what time.

If you twist and turn it, you could argue that its a 24/7 game and if your realm doesnt have defenders around the clock, thats though luck for you.
But i think its shown we don't to go that direction, as it leaves 1 realm empty.

Problem has it also that i hardly find it possible to log on albion for example (think others have that aswell). Cause its rather stupid to upset the balance even more.

Try to stop seeing it from a realm perspective for once and see what WE can do to make this game fun for everyone, so everyone can enjoy playing it. In the end you will benefit from it aswell.

Try to stop seeing it from a realm perspective? Is that coming from the same guy saying an Alb can't have a valid point because one or two dozen players keep fucking things up? I suppose it's impossible for other Albs to dislike AC raids, as we're probably sat next to the AC'ing people in real life, cheering them on. And even for the people who simply don't give a toss whether someone takes a keep at night or during the day, that doesn't mean they've ever joined in. So how would an Alb player not be able to have a point? If I activated my account right now, just to log into my druid, would I be able to make a valid statement then?
And what do you consider 'always enough people to defend'? The last time I recall checking the amount of Albs online in the middle of the night, I don't think there were more than one or two dozen, half of which were bots or leveling up. If you get a proper relic raid set at that time, you're not telling me that you'll be stopped by a mere handful of people.
Feel free to log on to your Albion characters, as you're not paying your subs in order to try and balance the game for the rest of the players, surely?
I rolled some characters on Hibernia quite a while ago, simply because Hibernia was outnumbered and I'd have an easy time taking out Albs/Mids. But when it turns out that I hardly know anyone in Hibernia, don't get invited to groups and such for having wank gear or being low realm rank, while being able to get a somewhat decent group in Albion, having people to chat to and basicly not getting treated like I'm some level 5 char begging for coins, why would I go back to Hibernia, just for the game balance's sake, when I've played Albion for four years? Should I, and other Albs with me, reroll Hibernia because the game's population is declining? After getting all this shit, simply for playing Albion (which I chose the day I bought the game, knowing fuck all about it, without predicting that we'd one day be great at AC raiding), why would anyone bother?
So you try not seeing it from a realm's perspective. Stop refering to the handful of players AC raiding as 'those Albs' and whatever, as it's like <5% of the Albs who take part in those raids. Stop generalising, and get your head out of your ass about Albs being unable to make a point.

 

[Tuthmes]

Never said the albs that dislike AC raids hade no valid point. As far as i know they see it from the same perspective as most of us do. The people that don't have a valid point are the albs that are saying; "raiding in the morning/afternoon is the same as AC'ing."
Why? Cause there is always enough albs defending at any givin time.

And as you state, too bad for you if there aren't enough defenders online at that moment.

Well thats exactly it. This is seeing it from your realm perspective, you do not care if the party you attack has no defenders, though luck for them. Yet you are destroying the gameplay for them when they do play.
Like others mentioned, i couldnt care if the relic whas taken at 3am, if there where any defenders at that time. But having seen the last year, it whas all about 1 guild group + 1fg random + some stealthers vs 3-4 max hibs defending. At some point even they stopped trying, cause there's fkall you can do against it.

They question is, why take the relic this way? Why hasnt there bin an equal amount of AC bin done on Midgard for example? This last week, every night, Surs has bin retaken by albs. Why not Era's or Berk's?

Is that coming from the same guy saying an Alb can't have a valid point because one or two dozen players keep fucking things up?

Yes, the albs that are defending these two dosen players on the boards, really don't have valid point to make at all?
I'm not talking about the albs that condone this behaviour, i'm sure its pretty obvious they see it from (almost) the same perspective.
The point is beeing directed at Flimgoblin and Phule_Gubben for saying; "Look didnt Midgard raid us in the early afternoon with Giwsakhs raids?"

I replied by saying; "Yes, wonder why he/they did that."

So don't get too hostile with me Straef!

And what do you consider 'always enough people to defend'? The last time I recall checking the amount of Albs online in the middle of the night, I don't think there were more than one or two dozen, half of which were bots or leveling up. If you get a proper relic raid set at that time, you're not telling me that you'll be stopped by a mere handful of people.

Yes, so? Still is two dosen more then on Hibernia and prolly 1 dosen more then on Midgard. Lemme quote some hib from a thread today.

/who nf in hib this morning at 7:45 CET showed 1, me

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=213297&page=2

And yes, we've all beg for money when we newly arrive in some realm, sometime. Yes, due to the serious underpopulation, you'll properbly have to lvl on your own. Yes, we just about have enough people todo an ml raid once in a whiled.

Stop refering to the handful of players AC raiding as 'those Albs' and whatever, as it's like <5% of the Albs who take part in those raids.

Wtf is wrong with refering to those <5% players AC'ing as "those albs"? You want me to call them cow's or something? As to seeing it from a realm perspective, just look at some post our favourite PvE Pally (Red_HATred) is making, mebbe you get my point.

 

[Imgormiel]

Never said the albs that dislike AC raids hade no valid point. As far as i know they see it from the same perspective as most of us do. The people that don't have a valid point are the albs that are saying; "raiding in the morning/afternoon is the same as AC'ing."
Why? Cause there is always enough albs defending at any givin time.



Well thats exactly it. This is seeing it from your realm perspective, you do not care if the party you attack has no defenders, though luck for them. Yet you are destroying the gameplay for them when they do play.
Like others mentioned, i couldnt care if the relic whas taken at 3am, if there where any defenders at that time. But having seen the last year, it whas all about 1 guild group + 1fg random + some stealthers vs 3-4 max hibs defending. At some point even they stopped trying, cause there's fkall you can do against it.

They question is, why take the relic this way? Why hasnt there bin an equal amount of AC bin done on Midgard for example? This last week, every night, Surs has bin retaken by albs. Why not Era's or Berk's?



Yes, the albs that are defending these two dosen players on the boards, really don't have valid point to make at all?
I'm not talking about the albs that condone this behaviour, i'm sure its pretty obvious they see it from (almost) the same perspective.
The point is beeing directed at Flimgoblin and Phule_Gubben for saying; "Look didnt Midgard raid us in the early afternoon with Giwsakhs raids?"

I replied by saying; "Yes, wonder why he/they did that."

So don't get too hostile with me Straef!



Yes, so? Still is two dosen more then on Hibernia and prolly 1 dosen more then on Midgard. Lemme quote some hib from a thread today.



https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=213297&page=2

And yes, we've all beg for money when we newly arrive in some realm, sometime. Yes, due to the serious underpopulation, you'll properbly have to lvl on your own. Yes, we just about have enough people todo an ml raid once in a whiled.



Wtf is wrong with refering to those <5% players AC'ing as "those albs"? You want me to call them cow's or something? As to seeing it from a realm perspective, just look at some post our favourite PvE Pally (Red_HATred) is making, mebbe you get my point.

Well put.

 

[dub]

not defending against a captured keep means the mid invasion has a lot more momentum from the start, so from the point of view of defending it's a bad idea.

If we're going to have IRVR have it in someone elses frontier

sorry , but no , IRVR will be held in albion

 

[necromania]

Is this really true?

necromania
Banned from FreddysHouse!
Rank: Lower than pondlife

If so.

im back!

 

[Imgormiel]

im back!

Someone cared :kissit:

 

[Britin]

Hahahahaha, hehehehehe, hohohohohoho

you guys sooooo crack me up, I have to come here to remind myself why I left

 

[Straef]

They question is, why take the relic this way? Why hasnt there bin an equal amount of AC bin done on Midgard for example? This last week, every night, Surs has bin retaken by albs. Why not Era's or Berk's?

I'd guess they either fancy irvr in Emain, or they're griefing, neither of which I can really relate to, as I'd get bored of having irvr in the same spot all the time, and trying to ruin the game for an entire realm is just absurd.

Yes, the albs that are defending these two dosen players on the boards, really don't have valid point to make at all?
I'm not talking about the albs that condone this behaviour, i'm sure its pretty obvious they see it from (almost) the same perspective.
The point is beeing directed at Flimgoblin and Phule_Gubben for saying; "Look didnt Midgard raid us in the early afternoon with Giwsakhs raids?"

You didn't mention that. You said 'Yeah ill admit as an alb you don't have any valid point on these boards', which had me thinking you were on about Albs in general, and can you blame me?

Wtf is wrong with refering to those <5% players AC'ing as "those albs"? You want me to call them cow's or something? As to seeing it from a realm perspective, just look at some post our favourite PvE Pally (Red_HATred) is making, mebbe you get my point.

What's wrong is that you, among others, tend to blame the entire playerbase of Albion, rather than the two or so groups causing the problems. This happens both because of people formulating their opinion in a way that's easily mistaken for something else, as in my opinion you did in your last post, and sometimes simply by narrowminded individuals refusing to listen to any sense, simply because they seem to think of all the Albion players as one and the same. Just look at all the threads mentioning Albs this, Albs that, without noting the 'those', but rather Albion as a whole.
It wouldn't hurt for people to ocasionally give the players that don't get down to the level of AC'ing a bit of credit, or to at least be clear about whether one is on about the entirety of Albion or a group of individuals, as there's quite a difference, and it only takes a few words.
You may think of this as a load of shit, or something not worth worrying about, but just take a look at threads about AC'ing and such, and you'll find that there's a lot of cases where people can't seem to be bothered reading an Alb's opinion, just because he might be into AC'ing himself, and he's 'one of those Albs'.

Hahahahaha, hehehehehe, hohohohohoho

you guys sooooo crack me up, I have to come here to remind myself why I left

I guess you're having a mighty fine time on the US servers if you can't remember why you wanted to go there.

 

[Straef]

im back!

Hoo-fucking-ray!

 

[Tuthmes]

You didn't mention that. You said 'Yeah ill admit as an alb you don't have any valid point on these boards', which had me thinking you were on about Albs in general, and can you blame me?

Think i mentioned 2 things there. Read again, though mebbe you got upset and stop reading there.

What's wrong is that you, among others, tend to blame the entire playerbase of Albion, rather than the two or so groups causing the problems. This happens both because of people formulating their opinion in a way that's easily mistaken for something else, as in my opinion you did in your last post, and sometimes simply by narrowminded individuals refusing to listen to any sense, simply because they seem to think of all the Albion players as one and the same. Just look at all the threads mentioning Albs this, Albs that, without noting the 'those', but rather Albion as a whole.
It wouldn't hurt for people to ocasionally give the players that don't get down to the level of AC'ing a bit of credit, or to at least be clear about whether one is on about the entirety of Albion or a group of individuals, as there's quite a difference, and it only takes a few words.
You may think of this as a load of shit, or something not worth worrying about, but just take a look at threads about AC'ing and such, and you'll find that there's a lot of cases where people can't seem to be bothered reading an Alb's opinion, just because he might be into AC'ing himself, and he's 'one of those Albs'.

Let's first start to clear something. English doesnt define "those" anything further. I could mean those in general, or i could be specifing some people in a certain group. In the case, it's those albs that ac and/or agree with ac'ing how its bin done, or even trying to defend them.

As for the l8r part no. If i whas refering to albs in general, i would refer to it as albs in general or "players that play albion", which in the l8r case would include me aswell.

Less trying to make me sound like a nazi Straef (though i still lub you). Think anyone with a bit of mind, wouldnt generalise the playerbase of albion (or any realm). It's exactly that which i'm trying to avoid and exactly why i pointed out the so called "realm point of view". It doesnt exist, cause we are all people trying to enjoy a nice game.