A bedtime story !

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L_Plates

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A BEDTIME STORY

Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction honey.

Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.

A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.

Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?

A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.

Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass

destruction, did we?

A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll

find something, probably Right before the 2004 election.

Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?

A: To use them in a war, silly.

Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use

in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went

to war with them?

A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those

weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend

themselves.

Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die if they

had all those big weapons to fight us back with?

A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.

Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those

weapons our government said they did.

A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those

weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.

Q: And what was that?

A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein

was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another

country.

Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his

country?

A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.

Q: Kind of like what they do in China?

A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic

competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in

sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer.

Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate

gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?

A: Right.

Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?

A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government.

People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and

tortured.

Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?

A: I told you, China is different.

Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?

A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China

is Communist.

Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?

A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.

Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?

A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are

sent to prison and tortured.

Q: Like in Iraq?

A: Exactly.

Q: And like in China, too?

A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other

hand, is not.

Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?

A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some

laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business

with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being

capitalists like us.

Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and

started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become

capitalists?

A: Don't be a smart-ass.

Q: I didn't think I was being one.

A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.

Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?

A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam

Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a

legitimate leader anyway.

Q: What's a military coup?

A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a

country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the

United States.

Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?

A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is

our friend.

Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?

A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.

Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by

forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an

illegitimate leader?

A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he

helped us invade Afghanistan.

Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?

A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.

Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?

A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men, fifteen of them Saudi

Arabians hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into

buildings, killing over 3,000 Americans.

Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?

A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive

rule of the Taliban.

Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off

people's heads and hands?

A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off

people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.

Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars

back in May of 2001?

A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job

fighting drugs.

Q: Fighting drugs?

A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing

opium poppies.

Q: How did they do such a good job?

A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban

would have their hands and heads cut off.

Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing

flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off

for other reasons?

A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off

people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off

people's hands for stealing bread.

Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?

A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy

that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were

in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not

comply.

Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?

A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.

Q: What's the difference?

A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet

fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her

eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of

patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her

eyes and fingers.

Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.

A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are

our friends.

Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were

from Saudi Arabia.

A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.

Q: Who trained them?

A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.

Q: Was he from Afghanistan?

A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very

bad man.

Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.

A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion

of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.

Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald

Reagan talked about?

A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or

thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We

call them Russians now.

Q: So the Soviets ? I mean, the Russians ? are now our friends?

A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years

after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support

our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the

French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either.

Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?

A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French

fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.

Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what

we want them to do?

A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.

Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?

A: Well, yeah. For a while.

Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?

A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him

our friend, temporarily.

Q: Why did that make him our friend?

A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.

Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?

A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked

the other way, to show him we were his friend.

Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically

becomes our friend?

A: Most of the time, yes.

Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an

enemy?

A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can

profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the

better.

Q: Why?

A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for

America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war

is a godless un-American Communist. Do you understand now why we

attacked Iraq?

Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?

A: Yes.

Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?

A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him

what to do.

Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because

George W. Bush hears voices in his head?

A: Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your

eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.

Good Night, Daddy
 
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doh_boy

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Aparently the us-sponsored government in kazakhstan is just as bad as iraq, china, taliban and whoever. Heard on the news a while back that the british ambassador spoke out against america and the 'corrupt' kazakhtani government. Pissed a few people off apparently. Was the above from a book or something? Seems like something micheal moore would write.
 
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L_Plates

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It was just a copy paste from a lads site i know.

Dunno the source.
 
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Ch3tan

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Congrats L_plates, funny and not a glen -you could be on to something here. Keep it up :)
 
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Embattle

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I really couldn't be bothered to read it right now, perhaps tomorrow or perhaps never :m00: <--beware of the cow.....it makes surfaces slippery.
 
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ECA

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urgh that is a glen, it _has_ been posted here before.
 
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Ch3tan

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Oh well your the first to think so, now prove it.
 
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Sar

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Originally posted by doh_boy
Seems like something micheal moore would write.

There's a chapter in Dude, where's my country? that's very like that, except it deals with the world's lack of oil in 50 years.

Which is pretty scary, when you find out all the things that are made from oil. Plastic for one.
 
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Sar

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Originally posted by ECA
urgh that is a glen, it _has_ been posted here before.

I disagree, don't think it is...

Good read.
 
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xane

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Originally posted by Sar
There's a chapter in Dude, where's my country? that's very like that, except it deals with the world's lack of oil in 50 years.

Which is pretty scary, when you find out all the things that are made from oil. Plastic for one.

In 1914 we only had 10 years worth of oil left, in 1951 it was up to 13 years worth left, the amount of oil left has been steadily increasing since. The "oil crisis" during the 1970s was more to do with control and production than actual oil reserves, this tends to be the more common factor in oil usage and scarcity.

I wouldn't worry, we'll find alternative methods of getting oil economically before we ever run out of it, there are still huge uncharted reserves of oil yet to be discovered any way, and whatever the case who says we will need oil by 2050, don't you think they'll discover something else by then ?

I'd have thought someone in London or New York in early 1900 might have been panicking about all these horses and what to do when we were up to our necks in horse poo, it was probably Michael Moore's grandfather.

Not all plastics are made from oil, and a vast majority can be made with any sort of oil, including biological, besides, plastics account for a tiny proportion of oil use.
 
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Jonaldo

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It was definitely posted in DAoC off-topic many moons ago, not sure about here. But that can be forgiven as that doesn't really count as a real forum.
 
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Tom

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Fusion power will be a commercial reality within the next 20 years. Cars will be powered by fuel cells within 10 years.

Its worth noting Xane that the oil companies find new reserves, but that those new reserves tend to be smaller in capacity than previous discoveries (generally speaking). New extraction techniques can push more oil out, but there ain't really that much left.

If the 3rd world consumed as much power as the 1st world, we'd be in a real crock of shit.
 
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Wij

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Originally posted by Jonaldo
It was definitely posted in DAoC off-topic many moons ago, not sure about here. But that can be forgiven as that doesn't really count as a real forum.

Speaking of DAoC off-topic...

How come you were surprised I posted there ?
 
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Jonaldo

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Originally posted by Wij
Speaking of DAoC off-topic...

How come you were surprised I posted there ?
Well I though only complete spammers and those people who are forever posting nonsensical shi... aahhh sorry! My bad :)
 
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xane

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Originally posted by Tom
Its worth noting Xane that the oil companies find new reserves, but that those new reserves tend to be smaller in capacity than previous discoveries (generally speaking). New extraction techniques can push more oil out, but there ain't really that much left.

The discoveries are only made under the current political restrictions, there are lots of uncharted areas known to contain significant amounts of oil, examples include Alaska, the Antartic and parts of the former Soviet empire.

Originally posted by Tom
If the 3rd world consumed as much power as the 1st world, we'd be in a real crock of shit.

You mean if the 3rd world could feed itself, provide adequate medicine and education, give itself economic prosperity and stability and remove its financial dependence from richer nations ? Or perhaps when you meant "we" you were referring to only those in the 1st world ?
 
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Tom

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Originally posted by xane
Or perhaps when you meant "we" you were referring to only those in the 1st world ?

I was referring to the large amounts of energy we as a society consume (often needlessly), if other poorer nations consumed similar amounts per person, we (the whole world) would be in a lot of trouble.
 
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xane

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Originally posted by Tom
if other poorer nations consumed similar amounts per person, we (the whole world) would be in a lot of trouble.

Yeah, keep those African kids dying baby, they're saving the world !
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by Tom
I was referring to the large amounts of energy we as a society consume (often needlessly), if other poorer nations consumed similar amounts per person, we (the whole world) would be in a lot of trouble.

If this if that...but they don't and nor are they likely too any time soon.
 
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Tom

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Originally posted by xane
Yeah, keep those African kids dying baby, they're saving the world !

Thats not what I meant and you know it. Stop twisting my words!
 
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xane

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Originally posted by Tom
Thats not what I meant and you know it.

Actually, that _is_ what you mean, you just don't realise it.

Seeing as global warming is based on rather dubious science and the human contribution is still unknown, and it assumes the ludicrious supposition we will not undergo technological advances, I'd rather put my money on the "feed the world now, sod the environment" bet.

The doomsayers don't have a very good track record in predicting world events, back in the 1970s they were moaning about an impending "ice age" ! The food/population "problem" has been with us since the 1700s and yet to be realised, and all this "running out of oil/gas/water" etc has never arose either.

We wouldn't be in a "crock of shit" if the 3rd world had enough energy and 1st world standards, and _you_ know it.
 
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PR.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3239806.stm

Its amazing that this kind of thing is happening they reckon 1kg of the two chemicals would produce the same energy as 10,000,000 kgs of fosil fuels

PS. It made me laugh how Star Trek it sounded, Deuterium, Tritium and Plasma being controlled by magnetic fields :)
 

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