A animist that brought shame to Hibernia

[Gahn]

I find it quite amusing reading posts by Gahn and Puppet, I really do. What interests me the most is Puppet, everything he does and says are right, all the classes he plays are not overpowered, all the classes outside Hibernia are overpowered, all his enemies cheat, Hibernia is not an overpowered realm, for every bug regarding any Hibernian classes in RvR, there is a reason, or should I call excuse. And apparently this guy is an E&E, ha! That made me laugh

As for Gahn, why are you accusing people of idiots when the only sentence your small peanut sized brain can come up with is 'Hey pathetic, have a good day!'

U may want to read all thread and pile of shit wrote in this thread so u MAY understand y in the end i got fed up by nausilus or wtf is his nickname. But guess u fall in same class of ppl who are quicker to write than to think ... shame ^^

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Intrigueing how FH protects Hibs. What's happening; FH telling Xalin/Requiel/Zenythe 'hey dont ban that shroomer; he pays our traffic' ?

Or you mean people not eating your clueless rants 24/7 and actually giving comments why you wrong?

So on what exactly am I wrong?

Let me rephrase:

- Base line stun + debuff + nuke is overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations and in tower/keep siege,
- Whorelocks are overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations,
- BDs are overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations,
- Animists are overpowered in tower/keep siege and there are some serious LoS issues within the class.

It's my opinion. It is shared among others. Now you can start your usual "omg, you're playing a Sorc, you're OP too"-whine or give me some examples how to beat the above mentioned classes or just stfu, cause I am not the person who is whining. The above is my perception, it is based upon my experience in the game and if it strikes me too much being killed in the way I critisise I move on and do something different in the game. I adapted, I have found a way to deal with the balance issues in the game, so next time you or some other here calls me whiner you might want to read it again: I adapted, I can deal with it, yet my concern remains the same.

Then:

- reports have been made of players playing Animist and Bainshee classes who bug abused on puprose,
- you came to here both times and questioned if it was bug abusing or not.

The original thread poster made some research in the issue and tried to reproduce it. It is almost impossible to cast the shrooms this way and yet you and the dude trying to play logic 101 games with me have the balls to come to here and claim that some people might be actually clueless or it might not be bug abusing where it is VERY CLEAR THAT SOMEONE CASTING SHROOMS LIKE THIS HAS MADE HIS HOMEWORK BEFORE.

 

[Kye Mcfly]

Ive never seen them hit people outside of a keep unless it actualy goes through the window insted of door (Which dosn't realy ever happen tbh)

Ive been able to cast orbs from inside to out through windows. Try jumping as u cast ur orb and it sorta drops out of window V nice actually cause u can cast about 5 or 6 (maybe more) before the guy even notices ur casting at him then he insta dies lol. hehe it sounds like a Warlock

 

[Tareregion]

hahaha Manisch still doesn't get it!

But he figured out how to use BOLD text now! good work!

 

[stupeh]

I've casted a PN inside a keep before, did it on first try, this would prolly be done the same way, so no they don't have to have done their homework. xD

 

[Puppet]

I've casted a PN inside a keep before, did it on first try, this would prolly be done the same way, so no they don't have to have done their homework. xD

Homework = press F5 and move the GT in such a way with the arrow-keys (we all did that for 15 year on the C64) that the blinky thingy is inside keep.

That's homework megameight!

 

[Treeeebeard]

Ive been able to cast orbs from inside to out through windows. Try jumping as u cast ur orb and it sorta drops out of window V nice actually cause u can cast about 5 or 6 (maybe more) before the guy even notices ur casting at him then he insta dies lol. hehe it sounds like a Warlock

Yeh i ment 'Rarely' not 'Realy' asin, Ive done it before, But most the times it wont work, and they just go hump the door instead , Although thats only through the CK window i managed to do that nowere else

 

[Legean]

Turrets cannot be cast into the lord tower of a keep unless the Animist is also inside the lord tower. This is to stop turrets from being cast into rooms inside the lord keep through windows.

Taken from patch notes from 1.70 so unless its been changed in later patches (i havn't checked) it is bug abuse.

 

[Bubble]

So on what exactly am I wrong?

Let me rephrase:

- Base line stun + debuff + nuke is overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations and in tower/keep siege,
- Whorelocks are overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations,
- BDs are overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations,
- Animists are overpowered in tower/keep siege and there are some serious LoS issues within the class.

It's my opinion. It is shared among others. Now you can start your usual "omg, you're playing a Sorc, you're OP too"-whine or give me some examples how to beat the above mentioned classes or just stfu, cause I am not the person who is whining. The above is my perception, it is based upon my experience in the game and if it strikes me too much being killed in the way I critisise I move on and do something different in the game. I adapted, I have found a way to deal with the balance issues in the game, so next time you or some other here calls me whiner you might want to read it again: I adapted, I can deal with it, yet my concern remains the same.

Then:

- reports have been made of players playing Animist and Bainshee classes who bug abused on puprose,
- you came to here both times and questioned if it was bug abusing or not.

The original thread poster made some research in the issue and tried to reproduce it. It is almost impossible to cast the shrooms this way and yet you and the dude trying to play logic 101 games with me have the balls to come to here and claim that some people might be actually clueless or it might not be bug abusing where it is VERY CLEAR THAT SOMEONE CASTING SHROOMS LIKE THIS HAS MADE HIS HOMEWORK BEFORE.

Please don't post in the RvR section anymore, make a BG inf, buff it and get owned by Thug's. Whine about how Thugs plays and wait for the responce, vent all that anger in a healthly direction no one cares about (The BG forums)

 

[Legean]

you got actually a good point in that. No matter what people think: The game in RvR is about killing others. If I stood in a window in Bolg (as example) would every Alb caster try to kill me? Ofcourse!

So what the typical player tries... the animist tries too! The typical animist tries to kill people too. If the game, in some way, allows you to shroom somewhere (or nuke someone) you sure as hell do it as typical player. In the end, thats human behaviour.

Some people can look past that; others go to FH and start to go insane. Those are the real retards; not the animists who only do something which MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be bug-abuse.

Lets hope many Animists see these posts so they know the rules.

 

[Sharkith]

So on what exactly am I wrong?

Let me rephrase:

- Base line stun + debuff + nuke is overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations and in tower/keep siege,
- Whorelocks are overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations,
- BDs are overpowered in 1 vs 1 situations,
- Animists are overpowered in tower/keep siege and there are some serious LoS issues within the class.

It's my opinion. It is shared among others. Now you can start your usual "omg, you're playing a Sorc, you're OP too"-whine or give me some examples how to beat the above mentioned classes or just stfu, cause I am not the person who is whining. The above is my perception, it is based upon my experience in the game and if it strikes me too much being killed in the way I critisise I move on and do something different in the game. I adapted, I have found a way to deal with the balance issues in the game, so next time you or some other here calls me whiner you might want to read it again: I adapted, I can deal with it, yet my concern remains the same.

Then:

- reports have been made of players playing Animist and Bainshee classes who bug abused on puprose,
- you came to here both times and questioned if it was bug abusing or not.

The original thread poster made some research in the issue and tried to reproduce it. It is almost impossible to cast the shrooms this way and yet you and the dude trying to play logic 101 games with me have the balls to come to here and claim that some people might be actually clueless or it might not be bug abusing where it is VERY CLEAR THAT SOMEONE CASTING SHROOMS LIKE THIS HAS MADE HIS HOMEWORK BEFORE.

you are wrong because you don't actually appear to have a point here. Thats quite an achievement.

 

[Puppet]

Lets hope many Animists see these posts so they know the rules.

Can you tell me the rules? Because AFAIK official rules have NOT been posted yet. Just some exceptions have been posted. So it makes common sense everything is allowed within the game EXCEPT the exceptions.

 

[Legean]

Can you tell me the rules? Because AFAIK official rules have NOT been posted yet. Just some exceptions have been posted. So it makes common sense everything is allowed within the game EXCEPT the exceptions.

read 2 posts up and look on patch notes for 1.70 where it states

"Turrets cannot be cast into the lord tower of a keep unless the Animist is also inside the lord tower. This is to stop turrets from being cast into rooms inside the lord keep through windows."

again i havn't read notes from later patches coz im lazy but id guess it hasn't changed - guess u missed my original post

 

[Luz]

I killed a scout with my animist yesterday with no shrooms!

on topic :

Why do you people keep posting this? Just report it and be done with it.
NOBODY HERE ON FORUMS CAN DO CRAP

It´s up to GOA to fix whatever issues there are, together with Mythic.

man people can be so stupid

 

[Puppet]

Turrets cannot be cast into the lord tower of a keep unless the Animist is also inside the lord tower. This is to stop turrets from being cast into rooms inside the lord keep through windows.

Taken from patch notes from 1.70 so unless its been changed in later patches (i havn't checked) it is bug abuse.

Obviously the patchnotes are wrong as they say its impossible to cast turrets into a lord tower of a keep where the screenshot prooves its possible.

I do see your point, but it comes down to a funny thing now: Isnt it allowed to cast shrooms inside a lord tower OR is not possible (normally) ?

Also I think this change was to avoid lords being killed by animists before breaking down doors, correct? Anyhow point remains (from a non geek player): The game allows me to cast on this spot therefore Im allowed to do it. Game currently allows warlocks atm to run and chamber/primer certain spells - cant blame them for using that.

Point im trying to make: Im rather up-to-date with patchnotes and such... but I didnt remember this sentence from a few patch-notes back. Can you expect that from a typical player tho ?

 

[Legean]

Obviously the patchnotes are wrong as they say its impossible to cast turrets into a lord tower of a keep where the screenshot prooves its possible.

I do see your point, but it comes down to a funny thing now: Isnt it allowed to cast shrooms inside a lord tower OR is not possible (normally) ?

Also I think this change was to avoid lords being killed by animists before breaking down doors, correct? Anyhow point remains (from a non geek player): The game allows me to cast on this spot therefore Im allowed to do it. Game currently allows warlocks atm to run and chamber/primer certain spells - cant blame them for using that.

Point im trying to make: Im rather up-to-date with patchnotes and such... but I didnt remember this sentence from a few patch-notes back. Can you expect that from a typical player tho ?

Hence my second note saying i hope animists see this and have the decency not to exploit it where it may be in the works to being fixed anyway

 

[Tay]

I got a reply from GoA pretty fast and here is their reply:

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Response (CM)
06/21/2005 10:40 AM
Hi here
We are aware that that is happening and are trying to duplicate it so we can get it stopped. Thanks for the report!
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Seems they think its a bug too.

So what your saying is that it aint bug abuse its dodgy coding......

I used to play a while back Alb and Hibs frequently used to get shrooms at the top of the stairs in DF....I was told that it was not bug abuse....but it was something that "might" be fixed in a future patch.

Issues like this should go to Right now and flagged as bugs in the LOS code, people should not stir up feelings suggesting that somebody cheated...in actual fact it would seem that its yet another bug in the code.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Please don't post in the RvR section anymore, make a BG inf, buff it and get owned by Thug's. Whine about how Thugs plays and wait for the responce, vent all that anger in a healthly direction no one cares about (The BG forums)

How about you vent your anger in a good wank? Might be more productive than reading your crap about NF or Thid. You seem like a PvE person to me that wins all fights vs. Hib nukers in his wet dreams.

And what's with Thid or Thugs here? Off topic. You should know it, it's you doing suggestions what and where to type.

 

[Boggy]

The original thread poster made some research in the issue and tried to reproduce it. It is almost impossible to cast the shrooms this way and yet you and the dude trying to play logic 101 games with me have the balls to come to here and claim that some people might be actually clueless or it might not be bug abusing where it is VERY CLEAR THAT SOMEONE CASTING SHROOMS LIKE THIS HAS MADE HIS HOMEWORK BEFORE.

You're saying the person who wrote this thread did his homework and couldn't replicate the shroom placement implies that the person who DID do it must have done his homework? Nice reasoning.

I'd say that if it is near on impossible to do on purpose, it increases the likelihood of it being accidental.

A cheat is someone trying to get unfair advantage. I can't see how he's gonna have an advantage if he goes around keep battles trying and failing to illegally place shrooms just so that one in a 100 times (or whatever) he manages to place them inside the keep and kill one person. He'd be far better off playing legally and shrooming on of the legal placements.

For this illegal shroom placement to be of any interest to cheats, surely he'd have to be able to reproduce it pretty much at will, and if he could do that why are GOA and others finding it hard to replicate?

What it boils down to is that neither you nor I have enough information to say whether this was done on purpose or accidently. I'm willing to admit that it could be either, where as you dismiss the possibility it could be an accident. Your only reason for doing is is that you WANT it to be bug abuse, so that you can maon about animists.