A animist that brought shame to Hibernia

Nausilus^^

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Gahn said:
Lmao every other post of yours i read, u seem more and more like ArmorFactor on VnBoards ....

Who gives a shit?

A lot of shit in this thread, but one person I do agree with is Huntingtons view upon Puppet.. and Gahn, you're pretty full of shit too.

(I bet there will be a few posts about my post not being constructive, but as I see it pretty much none of the posts so far are, because it's hibs trying to defend a buggered up class in a questionable situation and mids/albs trying to convince the world that it in fact IS buggered up)

Sheesh..
 

Gahn

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Nausilus^^ said:
Who gives a shit?

A lot of shit in this thread, but one person I do agree with is Huntingtons view upon Puppet.. and Gahn, you're pretty full of shit too.

(I bet there will be a few posts about my post not being constructive, but as I see it pretty much none of the posts so far are, because it's hibs trying to defend a buggered up class in a questionable situation and mids/albs trying to convince the world that it in fact IS buggered up)

Sheesh..

U wanna compete and be like him? You are more than welcome, go on; surely i won't waste time explaining u y he's a dickhead cause ofc u are along his same lines ...
 

youngbaba

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whine rocks :D

btw puppet is right. he tells things as they are not from a biased pov like the guy that brought this up and the tarded sorc. animists are bugged and frustrating to play, and can YOU give me a link to all the animist rules? thought not. oh and just why the fuck shouldnt anis be allowed to cast on battlements, whereas everyone else can use them as a vantage point? ani pets hit for maybe 100-200 damage max depending on resists/shroom level, whereas a fucking caba/sorc/sm can hit for 500+ a lot faster. and yes i know theres more than one shroom, just get a sorc/pac healer in your group
 

Penlid

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Mogana and some other nub at Bolg tower were casting through walls, it happens deal with it. Animists can either cast a field of shrooms and hope some noob walks into it, or cast bombers 3 minutes later the bomb reaches you when your oos and you still QQ about it. It's a game, don't be so thick to stand in front of shrooms.
 

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Gahn said:
U wanna compete and be like him? You are more than welcome, go on; surely i won't waste time explaining u y he's a dickhead cause ofc u are along his same lines ...
im a dickhead coz im telling the obvious that puppet is a whining doublestandard cock? i dont mind puppet, i mind his endless whining about _everything_ that is just a tiny tad overpowered from alb/mid and defend anything remotly bugged in hib. (shrooms can instakill 1 target if its the only 1 there, youngbaba) just because there's no rulebook for playing a char doesn't mean you're allowed to act retarded and abuse bugs.

/edit

its simple really - you're not allowed to do anything where you cannot be hit unless it's intended, which is boating. You're not allowed to shroom/stand or anything else in a place where you cannot be targeted.
 

Nausilus^^

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Gahn said:
U wanna compete and be like him? You are more than welcome, go on; surely i won't waste time explaining u y he's a dickhead cause ofc u are along his same lines ...

Compete with who? I don't need an explanation to why you think he's a dickhead, cos I don't give a crap about what you think. The point is that you seem to think that you're the only person in here who knows what's right and wrong, but maybe you should take a moment to think things over before writing mindless crap all the time.

Of course I don't claim this to be the truth, but merely my own view on your posts.
 

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Huntingtons said:
im a dickhead coz im telling the obvious that puppet is a whining doublestandard cock? i dont mind puppet, i mind his endless whining about _everything_ that is just a tiny tad overpowered from alb/mid and defend anything remotly bugged in hib. (shrooms can instakill 1 target if its the only 1 there, youngbaba) just because there's no rulebook for playing a char doesn't mean you're allowed to act retarded and abuse bugs.

/edit

its simple really - you're not allowed to do anything where you cannot be hit unless it's intended, which is boating. You're not allowed to shroom/stand or anything else in a place where you cannot be targeted.

U may want to check that he quoted my post about Vonwar or wtf he's called ....
 

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Nausilus^^ said:
Compete with who? I don't need an explanation to why you think he's a dickhead, cos I don't give a crap about what you think. The point is that you seem to think that you're the only person in here who knows what's right and wrong, but maybe you should take a moment to think things over before writing mindless crap all the time.

Of course I don't claim this to be the truth, but merely my own view on your posts.

I feel for ya, no really i do ^^ And i care about ya, no really i do ^^
And ofc i think before posting, thing that shamely neither Vonwar nor u actually do, so u'd better get your acts rights before writing YOUR shit.
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Yawn... So we have some extened urban legends now:

- Animists suck in open field,
- There are only 3 active Animsts,
- The rest are causal players and have the right to be bug abusing idiots.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Yawn... So we have some extened urban legends now:

- Animists suck in open field,
- There are only 3 active Animsts,
- The rest are causal players and have the right to be bug abusing idiots.

was that a whine?
I think it was!
 

Sharkith

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Yawn... So we have some extened urban legends now:

- Animists suck in open field,
- There are only 3 active Animsts,
- The rest are causal players and have the right to be bug abusing idiots.

you missed my point about shroooms being so cute dammit!!
 

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youngbaba said:
whine rocks :D

btw puppet is right. he tells things as they are not from a biased pov like the guy that brought this up and the tarded sorc. animists are bugged and frustrating to play, and can YOU give me a link to all the animist rules? thought not. oh and just why the fuck shouldnt anis be allowed to cast on battlements, whereas everyone else can use them as a vantage point? ani pets hit for maybe 100-200 damage max depending on resists/shroom level, whereas a fucking caba/sorc/sm can hit for 500+ a lot faster. and yes i know theres more than one shroom, just get a sorc/pac healer in your group

Wafflecopter..puppet is the biggest bias I know, whatever class he plays its not overpowered its misunderstood and whatever he does it game theres some "reason" for it.

Sorc dont insta nuke as soon as someone comes into view..sorc dont complete cast if target moves out of view..sorc cant put himself so he can't be hit and get away with it..Sorc cant project himself into windows..Need I go on. :drink:
 

Dorimor1

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I find it quite amusing reading posts by Gahn and Puppet, I really do. What interests me the most is Puppet, everything he does and says are right, all the classes he plays are not overpowered, all the classes outside Hibernia are overpowered, all his enemies cheat, Hibernia is not an overpowered realm, for every bug regarding any Hibernian classes in RvR, there is a reason, or should I call excuse. And apparently this guy is an E&E, ha! That made me laugh

As for Gahn, why are you accusing people of idiots when the only sentence your small peanut sized brain can come up with is 'Hey pathetic, have a good day!'
 

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Im glad people are intrigued by me. Im also pleased people are capable of judging my 'E&E-status' and how I do that from the hands of my writings on FH.

Keep it coming! Hopefully your realm has an active E&E, Dorimor1. Otherwise you might end up asking help from me, and it would be a shame if a Hib helped you quickly solve your ingame-problems. Because we all know those 2 things are closely related; and a Hib like Puppet, acting like a big bully on FH, cant be a good E&E !

Perhaps you should just STFU about stuff u have ZERO knowledge off. I dont recall you ever contacting me when you needed E&E-services, so you have ZERO knowledge in how I handle these things.

And oh no a E&E said STFU to me ! WOW he must suck as E&E how can GOA etc etc etc.. Yadayayayayayada keep it coming, it only feeds me xD
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
The life is sometimes about punching idiots like you in the face so they can wake up and become normal people.

Oh wait, it's against the laws, so I'll refrain from doing it. Or maybe it's not against the laws, so how about I punch you a few times and the judge finds it out for us?

Guess that's what the animists are doing when they play: "Well, this might be bug abuse or might not be bug abuse" so let's shroom a bit here and there and everyone questioning something that "might or might not be bug-abuse" is a "real retard".

Sir, you are an idiot. But in the end, it's "human behaviour" to be an idiot, so don't take it as an offence please.

This is complete nonsense, and clearly the person writing it didn't think it through. Probably cos he had a point to make and thinking it through would have got in the way of doing so.

To clarify for our hard-of-thinking poster: computer games, UNLIKE THE REAL WORLD have the rules enforced by the game code. Players operate with the reasonable assumption that anything they can do is legal, since the game would stop them doing so if not.

The game creators also operate with the same general assumption, in that the strategy they use for rule enforcement is not to post a load of rules and hope people abide by them, but instead they code the rules into the game.

There are exceptions. Some things are so clearly against the spirit of the game, or so difficult/complex to make happen within the bounds of the game, that people attempting them are well aware that they are attempting to exploit bugs. However, shrooming is pretty obviously not one of those things. Mythic's initial idea for the class was that shrooms would be cast more or less anywhere, and they only put in the ad hoc rules later, so it should not be surprising that there are many players that also start with the idea that shrooms can be placed more or less anywhere.

I won't call you an idiot for making your post. That would be childish.
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Boggy said:
To clarify for our hard-of-thinking poster: computer games, UNLIKE THE REAL WORLD have the rules enforced by the game code. Players operate with the reasonable assumption that anything they can do is legal, since the game would stop them doing so if not.

Yes. The place you meet such players is called Hibernia.

Thank you for the discussion.
 

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And before you flame me, I've seen Albs / Mids bug abusing or cheating too.

The difference lies in the protection the Hibs get on FH. Quite amusing.
 

Sharkith

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what are you on about man - have you lost the plot? Are you on drugs/forgotten to take yours for the evening?
 

Boggy

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I deny bug abuse because I don't abuse bugs. Are you suggesting some other course of action would be more reasonable?

I've already condemned people deliberately placing illegal shrooms and bug abuse in general. The fact that you ignore that because you also want to object to the notion that someone might inadvertantly contravene a rule they know nothing about just goes to show that you're not interested in a reasonable discussion.

If you're not interested ina reasonable discussion, anything you say is under-mined. So, in fact, you are doing more to undermine the message that bug abuse is wrong than I am.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
And before you flame me, I've seen Albs / Mids bug abusing or cheating too.

The difference lies in the protection the Hibs get on FH. Quite amusing.

If you see another player cheat
Report it to rightnow

Don't come to a public forum

If the person was cheating in the eyes of the GM's then that person will be punished. If not he didn't cheat. Since really there the only ones who's oppinion matters
 

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Penlid said:
cast bombers 3 minutes later the bomb reaches you

Untrue. Because the bombers only live for 20 seconds. Thats one of the reasons you more or less only see the shrooms in the keepfights, as our biggest source of damage (goes for arboreal speced animists) never reaches their targets. So we are bound to a lvl 45 baseline lifetap and our FnF turrets, aka "shrooms". I remember the cabalists and sorcs whining when they had their lvl 45 lifetap, so i wont go further into that. And as for the shrooms... ANYONE would use those if they had it. Lets do the comparsion: Theurgs vs Animists: Wouldnt theurgists use THEIR pets the same way as animists, if they could? Or do they have that moral "standard" that every animist is missing? My shrooms lets me interrupt and kill people while i, myself is being hidden in somewhat safety (talking about keep/towerfights).

And for the "sorcers dont finish the cast after target has has moved out of sight", gamah... That got me killed 2 times when defending bolg yday, so yeah, they do finish the cast. This goes for ALL casters and ALL archer classes AND ALL pets though.

There is no reason to defend the bugs. Bugs are bugs, and bugs are annoying as hell. But there is no reason to blame EVERYONE and his grandma, for "using them on purpose", which clearly isnt true. (though, the last thing i wrote there will go in through the eyes, and out of the ears of some people)

Peace out.

Off to have dinner with employees. :cheers:
 

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Puppet said:
Im glad people are intrigued by me. Im also pleased people are capable of judging my 'E&E-status' and how I do that from the hands of my writings on FH.

Keep it coming! Hopefully your realm has an active E&E, Dorimor1. Otherwise you might end up asking help from me, and it would be a shame if a Hib helped you quickly solve your ingame-problems. Because we all know those 2 things are closely related; and a Hib like Puppet, acting like a big bully on FH, cant be a good E&E !

Perhaps you should just STFU about stuff u have ZERO knowledge off. I dont recall you ever contacting me when you needed E&E-services, so you have ZERO knowledge in how I handle these things.

And oh no a E&E said STFU to me ! WOW he must suck as E&E how can GOA etc etc etc.. Yadayayayayayada keep it coming, it only feeds me xD

I'm not saying that you are a shit E&E, I'm saying that I was suprised about the fact that some one with the maturity of an eight year old is an E&E. But you are right, I shouldn't judge you
 

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Leleith said:
Untrue. Because the bombers only live for 20 seconds. Thats one of the reasons you more or less only see the shrooms in the keepfights, as our biggest source of damage (goes for arboreal speced animists) never reaches their targets. So we are bound to a lvl 45 baseline lifetap and our FnF turrets, aka "shrooms". I remember the cabalists and sorcs whining when they had their lvl 45 lifetap, so i wont go further into that.

One of the things non-animists never talk about, and probably never care about, is the way bombers are bugged (for those who don't know, bombers are the wisps that our DD nukes ride on, little balls of light).

In keep fights, bombers cast from the battlements, or a window, to enemies standing in plain sight below attempt to WALK DOWN THE STAIRS AND OUT THE GATE. Now, this is "working as intended" although can be annoying. However, to make the situation worse, the bombers get stuck IN the gate a lot of the time. This is not working as intended. It's buggy pathing in the same way that the shroom placement in the screenshot is buggy geometry.

In theory, a person moving in a certain way when a bomber is on him can pretty much CAUSE the bomber to get bugged ont he gate. If we all took Mano-thingy's philosophy- that ignorance of such things is not a valid reason - then everytime it happened w'd all come here and call the Albs/Mids in question cheats.

Fortunately most of us have a more realistic and sensible perspective. One that admits that not everyone is aware of the nuts and bolts of the game mechanics, and a lot of people take a "click and play" approach to the game.

About a week ago, a blue con cabalist pet followed me INTO an unbroken tower and beat me to death (very slowly and very annoyingly with about 5 stuns during the fight). I didn't come screaming here and moaning about it and calling all cabalists and all Albs bug abusers.
 

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Orbs are extremaly annoying, Ive never seen them hit people outside of a keep unless it actualy goes through the window insted of door (Which dosn't realy ever happen tbh)

If mythic were to nerf shrooms in RvR, They will need to fix pathing of orbs and make the CC better andf give us a higher level lifetap at the same time/ before they nerf the shrooms, Otherwise anis use would be fairly useless in most situations.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
And before you flame me, I've seen Albs / Mids bug abusing or cheating too.

The difference lies in the protection the Hibs get on FH. Quite amusing.

Intrigueing how FH protects Hibs. What's happening; FH telling Xalin/Requiel/Zenythe 'hey dont ban that shroomer; he pays our traffic' ?

Or you mean people not eating your clueless rants 24/7 and actually giving comments why you wrong?
 

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