A animist that brought shame to Hibernia

[Vonwar]

and to the entire Prydwyn server in my opinion.

IT ( the animist) cast inside the unbroken keep making it impossible to defend dun bolg. Screeny taken and will be sent to Rightnow. Just think its sad that people need to win so badly that they have to go againt the CoC of the game and the spirit of fair play.

PS: No I dont abuse bugs of any sort so dont even go there =D

Dear Dimse Dut,

I wish you the best of luck getting the pig banned for life. We need as many incidents proved by screnshots etc. to make it clear to mythic that they are wrong in making a class like animists, and that they have to look at the whole realm of hibernia which is too overpowered to what i think is reasonable.

I bet that the secret lays in the fact that mythic has been trying to pull the players towards Hibernia but nobody really liked it there until the overpowerednes came. But i wonder if they will ever admit.

Until then my dear Alb i wish you good luck in killing as many hibs as you can, we will do the same from mid. Hopefully we will end up fighting eachother, which is much more fun

Rgds

Vonwar

 

[Gahn]

Dear Dimse Dut,

I wish you the best of luck getting the pig banned for life. We need as many incidents proved by screnshots etc. to make it clear to mythic that they are wrong in making a class like animists, and that they have to look at the whole realm of hibernia which is too overpowered to what i think is reasonable.

I bet that the secret lays in the fact that mythic has been trying to pull the players towards Hibernia but nobody really liked it there until the overpowerednes came. But i wonder if they will ever admit.

Until then my dear Alb i wish you good luck in killing as many hibs as you can, we will do the same from mid. Hopefully we will end up fighting eachother, which is much more fun

Rgds

Vonwar

Lmao every other post of yours i read, u seem more and more like ArmorFactor on VnBoards ....

 

[Sharkith]

Dear Dimse Dut,

I wish you the best of luck getting the pig banned for life. We need as many incidents proved by screnshots etc. to make it clear to mythic that they are wrong in making a class like animists, and that they have to look at the whole realm of hibernia which is too overpowered to what i think is reasonable.

I bet that the secret lays in the fact that mythic has been trying to pull the players towards Hibernia but nobody really liked it there until the overpowerednes came. But i wonder if they will ever admit.

Until then my dear Alb i wish you good luck in killing as many hibs as you can, we will do the same from mid. Hopefully we will end up fighting eachother, which is much more fun

Rgds

Vonwar

go go Vonwar!!!



Do I detect a hint of homo-eroticism here?

 

[Twatnerfer]

go go Vonwar!!!



Do I detect a hint of homo-eroticism here?

I suspect that word is too big for the troll-brained Vonwar to understand.

 

[Luz]

word is to weird for me to understand also.. like erotic toughts about homosexual people? I dont get it.

 

[Huntingtons]

now i see why i got the retard on ignore ;o

 

[Sharkith]

awww don't do that!! best bit of fun I have had here in a long time. We need him on Prydwen.net !!

or maybe you have me on ignore ?

 

[Dimse Dut]

I got a reply from GoA pretty fast and here is their reply:

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Response (CM)
06/21/2005 10:40 AM
Hi here
We are aware that that is happening and are trying to duplicate it so we can get it stopped. Thanks for the report!
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Seems they think its a bug too.

 

[Vonwar]

Gratz on the reply, now we can only hope that a lot more reports will be comming so we can get this stopped. The sooner the better, for the benefit of a lot of ALB and MID players.

 

[Luz]

I hope so to, I hope all Animist issues are sorted out asap.

Then you cant whine when I kill you all fairly.

 

[pikeh]

ye such shame, animists lately make this game funny as hell los shrooms shrooms casting on stelthed units casting trough unbroken walls imho goa should have a look at this coz this is realy gettin funney

nearly as funny as theurg pets nuking through tower walls and shit like that.

 

[Lejemorder]

funny is, about every US animist with a bit of clue do that.

i doubt its a bug, as you can nuke trough the window, and if you stand outside and take you time you can get a gt and use gtaoe there too (tricky part is the good gt when you aint standing inside)

 

[Luz]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Response (CM)
06/21/2005 10:40 AM
Hi here
We are aware that that is happening and are trying to duplicate it so we can get it stopped. Thanks for the report!
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GOA are the uber, "we are trying" LOL
like its that complicated

yes tbh I havent tried myself, but trying on a testserver with no enemy defenders or npc guards .. I could prolly manage it in a few mins

 

[Vladamir]

nearly as funny as theurg pets nuking through tower walls and shit like that.

Almost as funny as shrooms nuking people on land from underwater, bearing in mind they never go underwater?

 

[Boggy]

Where's the screenie?

As an ani, I tend to cast my shroom pretty much anywhere I can, although I am aware of the following rules, which I never tried to bend or break:

- Not allowed to cast FnFs on battlements
- Not allowed to cast any shrooms into a siege piece from outside

These are rules and Mythic have attempted to enforce them with code. Hence if I tried to do it, I'd need to find a bug to succeed and would be bug abusing.

Things that are not bug abuse, from my understanding:

- Casting shrooms through a window of a siege piece from the inside to out
- Casting a controllable shroom onto the battlements

To whoever suggested making shrooms useless in RvR - I'd be happy to have my shrooms replaced by something else. Maybe some reasonable form of CC or a (single) mobile pet. At the moment, animists are the only class that doesn't have decent CC, a pet or a bolt in ANY spec line.

I hate keep sieges as an animist. In fact I can't see how ANY class would be more fun in a keep siege than in open field. There's too much standing around waiting to be picked off by the next lame stealther to show up. And even stealthers probably get more fun out of doing that in the open than in a keep.

 

[Dimse Dut]

Where's the screenie?

As an ani, I tend to cast my shroom pretty much anywhere I can, although I am aware of the following rules, which I never tried to bend or break:

- Not allowed to cast FnFs on battlements
- Not allowed to cast any shrooms into a siege piece from outside

These are rules and Mythic have attempted to enforce them with code. Hence if I tried to do it, I'd need to find a bug to succeed and would be bug abusing.

Things that are not bug abuse, from my understanding:

- Casting shrooms through a window of a siege piece from the inside to out
- Casting a controllable shroom onto the battlements

To whoever suggested making shrooms useless in RvR - I'd be happy to have my shrooms replaced by something else. Maybe some reasonable form of CC or a (single) mobile pet. At the moment, animists are the only class that doesn't have decent CC, a pet or a bolt in ANY spec line.

I hate keep sieges as an animist. In fact I can't see how ANY class would be more fun in a keep siege than in open field. There's too much standing around waiting to be picked off by the next lame stealther to show up. And even stealthers probably get more fun out of doing that in the open than in a keep.

Screeny can be found www.fetneh.com

 

[Boggy]

If that keep was (a) Not owned by Hib and (b) unbroken (as I believe you said it was) then that shroom placement is not possible to accomplish legally. Even with a clear LoS through a window it is illegal (and should be impossible, barring bugs) to summon a shroom into a keep from outside.

The only ways I can imagine it being accomplished are:

1) Accidently from someone who does not know the rules

2) Deliberately with a lot of trial and error (resetting GT, attempt to summon, fail and reset GT again, etc) by someone who, if they didn't know it was illegal before, should get the message from the number of "you're not allowed to put a shroom there" messages.

My guess is a geometry bug (of the same type that occasionally make kobbies, luris, inconnus and shrooms unattackable) making the placement possible, but that's just a guess.

I'm not surprised GOA are having trouble replicating this. As a glitch it's probably only possible in a very narrow location.

 

[Kye Mcfly]

- Not allowed to cast FnFs on battlements

- Not allowed to cast any shrooms into a siege piece from outside

1st time ive seen these rules All i do is try and cast shrooms in random places and if it lets me i shroom away! Dont see whats wrong with that.

 

[Puppet]

1st time ive seen these rules All i do is try and cast shrooms in random places and if it lets me i shroom away! Dont see whats wrong with that.

you got actually a good point in that. No matter what people think: The game in RvR is about killing others. If I stood in a window in Bolg (as example) would every Alb caster try to kill me? Ofcourse!

So what the typical player tries... the animist tries too! The typical animist tries to kill people too. If the game, in some way, allows you to shroom somewhere (or nuke someone) you sure as hell do it as typical player. In the end, thats human behaviour.

Some people can look past that; others go to FH and start to go insane. Those are the real retards; not the animists who only do something which MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be bug-abuse.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

you got actually a good point in that. No matter what people think: The game in RvR is about killing others. If I stood in a window in Bolg (as example) would every Alb caster try to kill me? Ofcourse!

So what the typical player tries... the animist tries too! The typical animist tries to kill people too. If the game, in some way, allows you to shroom somewhere (or nuke someone) you sure as hell do it as typical player. In the end, thats human behaviour.

Some people can look past that; others go to FH and start to go insane. Those are the real retards; not the animists who only do something which MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be bug-abuse.

The life is sometimes about punching idiots like you in the face so they can wake up and become normal people.

Oh wait, it's against the laws, so I'll refrain from doing it. Or maybe it's not against the laws, so how about I punch you a few times and the judge finds it out for us?

Guess that's what the animists are doing when they play: "Well, this might be bug abuse or might not be bug abuse" so let's shroom a bit here and there and everyone questioning something that "might or might not be bug-abuse" is a "real retard".

Sir, you are an idiot. But in the end, it's "human behaviour" to be an idiot, so don't take it as an offence please.

 

[Gahn]

The life is sometimes about punching idiots like you in the face so they can wake up and become normal people.

Oh wait, it's against the laws, so I'll refrain from doing it. Or maybe it's not against the laws, so how about I punch you a few times and the judge finds it out for us?

Guess that's what the animists are doing when they play: "Well, this might be bug abuse or might not be bug abuse" so let's shroom a bit here and there and everyone questioning something that "might or might not be bug-abuse" is a "real retard".

Sir, you are an idiot. But in the end, it's "human behaviour" to be an idiot, so don't take it as an offence please.

Y don't u move on and fuck off sometimes and try to put yourself in some1 else shoes? Do u really are such a retard to think that every guy, playing an animist, out there got 3 qbs full of preset GTs which he magically found over all frontiers where u lot can't nuke / melee / hug his shrooms?
Couldn't be that cause they nerfed to hell bombers and LT is crap that class can only shroom in siege takes and standoff? Couldn't be that cause of the crappy LOS system every Animist is prone to much trying and frustrating GT placement (like half of my times when i place a GT from fucking BMs down there and cast some crap shroom it say u can't see your target from here and i got nuked to hell while i realize that?).
Ofc for your narrow minded vision is better to get here and cry about this and that (well i was writing to cry about Animists but in your case it ain't true cause u cry about pretty much anything).
Such idiocy will never stop to amuse me.

 

[Tareregion]

Manisch you are are one of the thickest idiots this forum has ever seen, and that's saying alot. How about you go and shut up now mmk?

edit: or just continue for our amusement

 

[Treeeebeard]

The life is sometimes about punching idiots like you in the face so they can wake up and become normal people.

Only idiots punch people in the face and expect them to become there interpretation of a normal person

Just noticed Gahn just poasted about manich QQ'ing and blameing all anis, And i pretty much agree because the theres so many sterotypical n00bs who think each animist loves to shroom and to bug abuse. Bugged class yes But i doubt most are bug abusers(Ofc, i agree that the one who was shrooming inside the keep from outside was most clealy abusing somehow).

Most QQ comes from keep taking ect but you carn't expect anis to run around with there staff trying to meele stealthers? Its to easy for other players on roof to move out of the way of lifetap and bombers are just pathetic in keep take/defence, Shrooms are boring but its not like theres anything else to use and they get the job done

cba to say anymore, got college ;o

P.S Givf anis level 50 Lifetap and upgrade are lame CC mythic!

 

[Luz]

yeh please remove DD shrooms and give us more utility shrooms, maybe a mez shroom, controllable stun shroom or stuff like that.

then make our lifetap worth while....
and bombers pathing, lol....

 

[Puppet]

The life is sometimes about punching idiots like you in the face so they can wake up and become normal people.

Oh wait, it's against the laws, so I'll refrain from doing it. Or maybe it's not against the laws, so how about I punch you a few times and the judge finds it out for us?

There's a big difference between your example and the game. I let you in into a little secret: MORE THEN 80% OF THE PLAYERS ARE CASUAL-PLAYERS WHO DONT READ FH. THEY ALSO DONT KNOW WHERE THEY CAN FIND THESE SO-CALLED RULES FOR ANIMISTS IN KEEP-FIGHTS.

Does the game tell them? Well sometimes: 'You cannot cast this spell there'. Sometimes it doesnt tell; but most important: The rules are so unclear and nowhere written down easily accessable you cant blame 80% of the players if they do something like that.

Guess that's what the animists are doing when they play: "Well, this might be bug abuse or might not be bug abuse" so let's shroom a bit here and there and everyone questioning something that "might or might not be bug-abuse" is a "real retard".

Most likely the animist is a casual-player; doesnt read FH and has not even the slightest clue if he's bug-abusing or not, he's simply trying to kill people. He cant use bombers (he knows that; coz they dont actually WORK) and his lifetap is shit and he knows shrooms do the job... So guess what: He goes shroom-shroom-shroom. He uses the tools to his disposal with the rule-set 'If the game dont allow me to do it, its not possible. If the game allows it, I can shroom there'. Hardly bug-abusing on purpose and definitly not worth such harsh words from the typical ROG-Alb/Mid.

Sir, you are an idiot. But in the end, it's "human behaviour" to be an idiot, so don't take it as an offence please.

For a day I wish you played an animist. You would whine all day about how animists sucked in open fights, and cant use, depending on spec, ~50% of their abilities in keepfights, how shit that is and demand a fix, no baseline insta mezz stunning etc etc etc.

Instead you picked sorc; and suddenly you think all players should be like you: Reading FH, writing down every minute someone makes a comment about basically anything and knowing all 17 rules about Animists and Geometry-Abuse in Keepfights.


If GOA doesnt even say its bug-abuse on first reply from RN. That means GOA isnt even sure its bug-abuse, how would the animist-player know? The only ones already knowing its bug-abuse + deserves a lifetime ban are Albs and Mids who got owned once too many by animists. Cry me a river.

 

[Luz]

<cries puppet a river>

I am thinking of twinking up some other class now that I´ve read FH. My animist fully ToA suit and now rr5 is so unfair, people die and I find it awfull!

Maybe some other caster then... OH NOOOEES they all have baseline stun.. crap.. wait, Bainshee! OH nooooes their CAOE is bugged....

crap now what should I play

puppet make the bad FH wankers go away

 

[charmangle]

Well basically this is a rangeclass bug...

Just a quick question while we are on buggy classes. Is the BD pet life tap through a wall one of those bugs that you have to learn to live with too?

My 'ickle druid died to a mid BD doing this extensively last night in Crauchon outpost - its a lika dot thingy I think...

No whine I am just curious.

Sharkith

"Love the shroom!"

Well it happens to us all...casters that nuke through walls and kill us. Its because you lag out of walls (even when standing still strangly enough) and the bd apparently must have gotten target on you with f8 and hitting you with the nuke. Normally its mainly a nuisance but when you get low on hp it can be leathal and very annoying. But its not a bd thing only even if its more often with them (since they have instants and their spell hits faster than the game understands that you lag).

/Charmangle

 

[Huntingtons]

... jadda

why is it you cry about everything cept hib problems?

 

[Sharkith]

Well it happens to us all...casters that nuke through walls and kill us. Its because you lag out of walls (even when standing still strangly enough) and the bd apparently must have gotten target on you with f8 and hitting you with the nuke. Normally its mainly a nuisance but when you get low on hp it can be leathal and very annoying. But its not a bd thing only even if its more often with them (since they have instants and their spell hits faster than the game understands that you lag).

/Charmangle

ahhh K. It happened 3 times in a row but I suppose that what you get when your wall hugging - boy was that a nasty lifetap!! My drood died because she is not ToA or templated yet (running around in rogs). It will all change once I get all the gear I need.

I am enjoying the game much more as a drood than I ever did as a nightshade though so

(I bet some dickhead is going to whine about over powered drood now too )

 

[Sharkith]

The life is sometimes about punching idiots like you in the face so they can wake up and become normal people.

you can punch me if you like? :wub: