TV 9/11 - 102 minutes that changed america

[old.user4556]

Channel 4 + 1 just now.

102 Minutes That Changed America - Channel 4

Video stitch in a real time fashion of that day from lots of different sources, some of it hasn't been seen before.

To this day, makes me feel sick to watch, people's reactions and some of the footage still shocks me.

 

[Trem]

Watching it now, its like a film, so strange.

 

[00dave]

Me too, I watched it live on the day and I've been to ground zero and this is more moving than both of those occasions.

 

[throdgrain]

Pretty shocking somehow

 

[Turamber]

Seems especially poignant that the would be liquid bombers were sent down today. That footage of the damage their bomb could do to a plane fusalage left me in a cold sweat.

 

[Wij]

No, it's all faked. It was done by bombs and the planes you saw hitting the towers were just crows much nearer to the camera !

Don't believe the lies !!!

 

[cHodAX]

I was playing Jumpgate the day it happened, someone shouted out the first crash in regional chat and so I switched the news on, within 2 minutes I was watching the second plane fly into the other tower live. It is a memory that will never leave me.

 

[Moriath]

its amazing how indoctrinataed we all are to believe human life is sacred ..

Why is a human more important that the hundreds of cows that are killed in the uk every day.

Why os 9/11 any more different and shocking that WW2 or the irish bombings.

Why is one life worse than 3000

Humans are shits .. religion is worse

It happens and has happened ,many times in the past.

nagasaki was much worse but the west didnt see it as so.

Whoever wins writes history

Whoever dictates at the time sees extremists

If muslims ruled the world the christians would be extreme and so would the crusades

A big roundabout if you ask me

But i have a medical conditions that gives me no empathy

But do you empathise as much to the afgans killed as to the western troops

ofc not ... its all brain washing from infacy

 

[Everz]

Alot of my fam live in NYC.. there convinced it was a setup.

 

[CorNokZ]

9/11 is so 2001..

 

[Aoami]

why are they showing programs like this now when the anniversary isn't until the 9th of november?

 

[nath]

Blah

Has Tohtori hacked your account or something?

 

[Zenith.UK]

I saw it.
My daughter watched it as well (she's 10). She cried.

Why os 9/11 any more different and shocking that WW2 or the irish bombings.

WW2 was wartime. Death and destruction were par for the course.
The Irish bombings were individually small scale and caused little reaction outside of the UK.

The planes being flown into the WTC was a deliberate, calculated act against the US because of it's foreign policies. It maximised the casualties and property destruction in the most high profile way possible. Fly one jet into a building to get people's attention. Then fly another jet into the next building WHILE EVERYONE IS WATCHING! A PR guru couldn't have dreamed up a better way to get EVERYONE to watch a couple of hundred people get murdered in an instant.

Don't try to hide behind an autistic spectrum disorder Moriath. People with autism can learn how to emote appropriately if they feel so inclined. I'm speaking from personal experience here as I probably have the same condition you're referring to.

 

[Aada]

I watched it last night too and it amazes me everytime i watch the planes fly into the towers and 1 hour later the towers come crashing down.

Near the end though you could see the towers spewing out what looked like liquid fire/metal melted? at the top so probably what caused the roofs to cave in.

 

[`mongoose]

But i have a medical conditions that gives me no empathy

since when has "being a cock" been a medical condition?

M

 

[Turamber]

its all brain washing from infacy

And do you really think all of that is appropriate in a thread discussing how frightening 9/11 was? AFAIK nobody has discussed how evil Muslims are or how wonderful cows are or whatever bollocks you are trying to propagate with that post.

Yes the world is a messed up place but people who blow up civilians, whatever their religion or attitude to cows, are not making it any better.

 

[Turamber]

Near the end though you could see the towers spewing out what looked like liquid fire/metal melted? at the top so probably what caused the roofs to cave in.

As I understand it the heat caused by the explosions of the jets fuel tanks and engines, then the tower being set fire, caused the metal in the towers to melt ... so they just collapsed.

I seem to remember there was a weakness in the design of the towers as nobody had conceived of this danger. They had also insured just one of the towers as the likelihood of both of them being destroyed was so insanely minute.

I'm sure the terrorists didn't realise quite how spectacularly effective the attacks on the twin towers would be.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Even if i personally don't care to see the same thing, every year, after a couple of years, i know that if there was a documentary of planes that flew into Finnish buildings, i'd watch it and it might even effect me.

This is a big deal to people effected and as such, they have every right to have these shown. It's an hour, two, three tops out of TV and there's surely something else on if you don't like it.

Switch channel and let those remember who need it.

 

[Chilly]

for fucks sake. Every september. WHO CARES ANY MORE.

 

[Zenith.UK]

for fucks sake. Every september. WHO CARES ANY MORE.

FFS, every December we remember some guy who died 2000 years ago.

Based on your logic, we wouldn't celebrate Christmas any more.

 

[old.Tohtori]

for fucks sake. Every september. WHO CARES ANY MORE.

Remember what happened when i said "just let it go already", when talking about WW2?

I came there to the conclusion; if it doesn't effect you, ignore it, comment on it carefully, but don't judge it.

 

[Chilly]

I came to the conclusion that your use of english grammar makes what you say unreadable. Not that it's worth reading half the time, anyway.

 

[Calaen]

I was at work, flirting with an older member of staff

My wife phoned me to tell me something was going on, we got the news on straight away and the rest of the day seemed to slide in slow motion. Millions of people have died across time, but to bear witness to something so evil and deliberately calculated is something that will never leave me.

Whenever it is mentioned my first thoughts always goes to those on the planes, more so those with children on board. I can't imagine being in a situation knowing someone is about to send you to your death and you can't do nothing about it at all. It actually turns my stomach.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I came to the conclusion that your use of english grammar makes what you say unreadable. Not that it's worth reading half the time, anyway.

Well, that's your problem now isn't it

Atleast i got half!

 

[Turamber]

I came to the conclusion that your use of english grammar makes what you say unreadable. Not that it's worth reading half the time, anyway.

Are you sure you weren't just bored? Seriously when does a world changing event become "boring"? Some people are odd.

 

[Bugz]

for fucks sake. Every september. WHO CARES ANY MORE.

I imagine the relatives of those who died care...

 

[Bugz]

Even if i personally don't care to see the same thing, every year, after a couple of years, i know that if there was a documentary of planes that flew into Finnish buildings, i'd watch it and it might even effect me.

This is a big deal to people effected and as such, they have every right to have these shown. It's an hour, two, three tops out of TV and there's surely something else on if you don't like it.

Switch channel and let those remember who need it.

Well said.

If it doesn't affect you, then don't degrade or insult the experience, thoughts or memories of those whom it does affect.

 

[Bullitt]

I remember when i saw it on the news, the second tower hadn't been hit. I sent a text to my brother saying that some idiot had crashed his plane into the first tower - thinking it was some horrific accident. It in no way crossed my mind that it might have been a terrorist attack, until the second plane.

Like it or not everyone is affected, whilst not directly in terms of loss it has altered my perspective on the world. Now if i saw something similar i'd immediately think terrorist attack, rather than an accident.

Perceptions are shifted over time, through the media or otherwise. When i was a kid terrorist conjured up images of the IRA, now it's probably the same image you all see as well...

 

[Chilly]

I imagine the relatives of those who died care...

I'm sure they do care. I don't, though. What I care about is the massive overreaction western governments have had and the massive use of fear poltiics to push through all sorts of shit.

I dont remember 9/11 as 5000 people being murdered, I remember it as the start of billions of people being treated like suspects by default by their governments and losing basic rights.

 

[Tom]

Odd isn't it, how the 11th September attacks and the resulting 5000 or so deaths are 'more important' in the eyes of the western world than the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004 that killed about 230,000 people.