3 savage 3 healer assist groups

[case-rigantis]

ok guys serious discussion how the hell do we combat this?

we don`t seem to have the ability to stop them even in high rr well balanced alb groups

suggestions?

 

[Esoteric]

Get someone to roll a smite cleric 4thewin stun

 

[old.mattshanes]

-Get some thrust tanks.

-Without healers savages go down fast due to shouts taking their hps since most of them use shitloads in a battle.....try target their mend healer first NOT shaman as they have end regen anyway themselves...mend healer heals best so.

-Get a good main assist and assist them with damage dealers, pala guards cleric/sorc.

-Sorc mezzes and aoe str/con debuffs.

-Make sure some tanks have high determination(preferably 4)

-Prevent flight tanks can win the battle too.

 

[Esoteric]

Adding this in....

Savage

- A bug in Savage's chances to triple or quad has been fixed. Savages should now triple more frequently than before, and quad less frequently than before. Note that Savage Damage Per Second remains the same.

<cries> we need more lil sychos runnin around to pwn them all.

 

[Esoteric]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Sorc mezzes and aoe str/con debuffs.

And what was I doin and saying today <runs off screaming he was right>

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Esoteric
Adding this in....

Savage

- A bug in Savage's chances to triple or quad has been fixed. Savages should now triple more frequently than before, and quad less frequently than before. Note that Savage Damage Per Second remains the same.

<cries> we need more lil sychos runnin around to pwn them all.

I got quaded 3 times in a row earlier and died with 2300hp xD

 

[old.linnet]

Disease helps.

 

[case-rigantis]

going to try experimenting with necro for armour debuff instead of the 2nd merc prob but then dunno if we`d have damage output

 

[Turamber]

It's not actually as easy to run those gank squads as you might think. Looking at it from the Midgard end (me traitor!! ) if your tanks have high determination and max body resists the stun's don't last long.

Of course that doesn't stop the Alb support going down in microseconds....

 

[Heffer]

Originally posted by case-rigantis
going to try experimenting with necro for armour debuff instead of the 2nd merc prob but then dunno if we`d have damage output

we tried that the necro was getting very fristrated with the interupts takes 3 times as long to recast than normal caster, and af debuff is nice but rather another merc

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
I got quaded 3 times in a row earlier and died with 2300hp xD

All consistent with the Midgardian definition of the word "balanced". :>

 

[froler-mid]

just do what u do best, zerg...

 

[case-rigantis]

Originally posted by froler-mid
just do what u do best, zerg...

would rather not if thats ok with you i leave that to those mid gimps with the blue star on their cloaks dunno their guild

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by froler-mid
just do what u do best, zerg...

Like alb excal infs?xD

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Like alb excal infs?xD

¨


nope ;d


seriously tho, savage/healer mid groups are frikkin hard too beat.


old.mattshanes got some good points, but i dont agree with shammy....a good shammy will decease your whole group, that is of annoying(ie; gank him ;d)

 

[old.mattshanes]

They would with disease and dots yes but most savages are buffbotted so.... although with high determination tanks healers would be more important to kill than shaman first.Especially their mend healer, PR can be a problem too which means 6 healers if all have it up it can be but if you take them down first it's not

By the time you taken shaman out then switch to a healer it could be PR anyway so it's really hard to say what's first to kill, i would say mend healer though still.

 

[Bebopbo]

albzerg4tehwin

 

[Artemls]

1 Sorc
3 Clerics
1 Pala
1 Minstrel
2 Mercs

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by case-rigantis
would rather not if thats ok with you i leave that to those mid gimps with the blue star on their cloaks dunno their guild

Dont think there is a guild in Mid with blue cloaks and star that have the amount of people to make a zerg but guess you know better.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Artemls
1 Sorc
3 Clerics
1 Pala
1 Minstrel
2 Mercs

Nope.

2 clerics
1 mins
1 pala
2 mercs
2 thrust pole armsmen

Mezz means shit vs 3-4 savages with high determination anyway and you need REAL heavy damage output.So it will not quite cut it in that group damage wise :/

Although some sorc's lately are str/con debuffing savages and their damage does go down

Also by the way i ran this set up this week and never died once.... both armsman had soldier's barricade too xD

 

[liste]

cabalist with disease

 

[Petronella]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
I got quaded 3 times in a row earlier and died with 2300hp xD

hahahaa
ah well seriously, your tank groups rocks aswell in Alb, christ, got 4-5 tanks on me all of a sudden and dead in 2 sec or so
but then again im only human (Thane)

 

[Dunmer]

Originally posted by case-rigantis
ok guys serious discussion how the hell do we combat this?

we don`t seem to have the ability to stop them even in high rr well balanced alb groups

suggestions?

Oh I didn't know we can't stop em.

 

[faderullan]

Make good group...

Assist well...

Kill all healers and shaman meanwhile you own support runs around...

Kill savages...

Cure disease...

Run to a save spot and rest...

 

[faderullan]

Originally posted by Artemls
1 Sorc
3 Clerics
1 Pala
1 Minstrel
2 Mercs

That group dont make enough damage. I have tried it.

 

[Cush]

One of the downsides to the savage is that they dont get PF. Which is realy annoying with Albs using assist.. so many in there that got PF (impossible to get away as support)

 

[Makwaerk]

Originally posted by Esoteric
Adding this in....

Savage

- A bug in Savage's chances to triple or quad has been fixed. Savages should now triple more frequently than before, and quad less frequently than before. Note that Savage Damage Per Second remains the same.

<cries> we need more lil sychos runnin around to pwn them all.

This is ofc a nerf, it says it is not, but most of us have played teh game long enough to know when they are just giving us bullshit.

Hence ofc the savage will less dmg per sec due to less 4xhits and more 3xhit

(not saying it is wrong to nerf savages)

 

[old.ivan]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes

Mezz means shit vs 3-4 savages with high determination anyway and you need REAL heavy damage output.

Ye, but the mezz will help negate their support from healers'n'shamsters, just important for sorc to stay out of stun range and have paladin guard while colliding with mid group at mach 6.

 

[old.tuppe]

hmm i guess whit all those af buffs albs have + bof, hard alb group to kill, ad there sos.

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by old.tuppe
hmm i guess whit all those af buffs albs have + bof, hard alb group to kill, ad there sos.

and sob. then u got godmode on.


+3 relics, albs should beat them savage groups with melee group imo.