2H Thane Viability

Eithor

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Blah, edited some stuff... Too late, those 10 min went fast :/
However here is what i edited firsthandly:


frosty: 10str, 10dex, 10piety ( ok melee dmg, good defence, nasty casting and almost decent hitpoints)
troll: 10str, 10dex, 10piety ( nasty melee dmg, ok defence, ok casting and good hitpoints)
dworf: 10con, 10dex, 10piety ( ok melee dmg, nice defence, good casting and nasty hitpoints
norse: 5str, 5con, 10dex, 10piety ( good melee dmg, nice defence, good casting and good hitpoints

That ^^ would be me advice for those who think to roll a new thane :)

Then again, i'm not all that fond of going the "fotm" race/spec/style of playing/etc/etc... and wouldn't want people to believe blindly in what i say/think :eek6:
 

Void959

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Eithor said:
Blah, edited some stuff... Too late, those 10 min went fast :/
However here is what i edited firsthandly:


frosty: 10str, 10dex, 10piety ( ok melee dmg, good defence, nasty casting and almost decent hitpoints)
troll: 10str, 10dex, 10piety ( nasty melee dmg, ok defence, ok casting and good hitpoints)
dworf: 10con, 10dex, 10piety ( ok melee dmg, nice defence, good casting and nasty hitpoints
norse: 5str, 5con, 10dex, 10piety ( good melee dmg, nice defence, good casting and good hitpoints

That ^^ would be me advice for those who think to roll a new thane :)

Then again, i'm not all that fond of going the "fotm" race/spec/style of playing/etc/etc... and wouldn't want people to believe blindly in what i say/think :eek6:
I'm not a FOTM lover either, but came to a similar conclusion before I looked at what other people suggested. Norse 10str, 10dex, 10 piety. Dex has to be worth it, extra defense as i'll be parry and extra casting speed when grouped. Piety doubtless worth it for when playing as a caster, and even when solo and meleeing a lot I still expect a large part of my damage will be magic based - DDs, doomhammer. I know that on minstrel, another similarly low WS class, a large part of my damage output against tough melee opponents (espeically those with strong active defense) is DDs. Con/str/qui was the tough choice but since I'm going for high damage output rather than defense I figured str over con. Quickness on the other hand would mean more swings, which combined with the flat damage proc could help out more, so not sure there.
 

Aerendur

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I like the changes. Although they could do something to our weaponskill or dmg table perhaps. But overall happy with this.

One thing people should check out though, the thane doesnt get all the bonus from pie (check some tests done by the TL and another). Which for now means that a frostalf will not gain much (if anything) in dmg over a norse for pie.

I have a frosty thane though. And at least it gets you attacked by the lowbie stealthers thinking your a mushy shaman or healer! :)
 

Aeris

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my gimp is 42 weapon 42 shield 48 sc rest parry atm, thinking of respeccing to 50 weapon 50 sc rest parry for the love patch(although the 23 shield version looks better). like someone said 42 shield doesnt cut it in rvr, and slam rarely lands. also i want to play with all the new toys :D
 

Eithor

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"Nasty melee dmg, on a thane!? gotta be a joke"

I'd say any char that do 500-800 damage with one swing without any crit, doing more than just ok damage? ;)

Thats what a thane will be able to do, after the hybrid patching.
 

Konah

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i went 10str 10dex 10pie on my lowbie frosty, spell dmg is surprisingly good and 60 base qui is enough i think (and already 10 more than any other race available)

problem with frostalf is u will be 'made' as caster-ish early in a fight and be targetted for interupts/nearsight etc so i dunno. doubt i lvl mine past 24 cos i like my savage and skald too much but i will get it to thid (classic) and piss some hibs off ;)
 

Aeris

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enough with the moomin avatars !

they still scare me :(
 

atos

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LOL.

Anyways, I was thinking that valks and thanes should get their own unique shield line. Where we would get a style that procs a damage shield with like 10-12 dps. And a style which procs a 10-15 sec pbaoe mezz.

The pbaoe mezz style is especially fond to me at that would give us a chance versus 2 or more stealthers.

The current fixes favour 2h spec on thane too much. Frost hammer DD proc should be moved to Revenge. And a stun/DD component to sledge hammer would be nice. This would raise the utility for 1h thanes who don't wanna go all the way with 50 hammer.
 

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