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The Senna tribute reminded me how good f1 was in the 80's and early 90's.

Rose tinted spectacles methinks. When Prost and Senna were at McLaren it should have been great, but they were so dominant it was actually really boring (was it 17 out of 18 for McLaren in 88? Something like that). Not as boring as the Schumacher years certainly (surely the low point of F1), but still pretty tedious. F1 is always better when half a dozen guys are potential winners, like now.
 

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MotoGP > F1. Thank you.
 

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Rose tinted spectacles methinks. When Prost and Senna were at McLaren it should have been great, but they were so dominant it was actually really boring (was it 17 out of 18 for McLaren in 88? Something like that). Not as boring as the Schumacher years certainly (surely the low point of F1), but still pretty tedious. F1 is always better when half a dozen guys are potential winners, like now.

Agree there, but i'd loe to see a no holds barred F1, where there's no machine limitatons etc. Really put the whole team against team, builder against builder and ultimately driver against driver to play.
 

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until they install jumps and machine guns F1 will always be boring for the most part
 

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Agree there, but i'd loe to see a no holds barred F1, where there's no machine limitatons etc. Really put the whole team against team, builder against builder and ultimately driver against driver to play.

Problem with that is that it then becomes a constructors, rather than drivers' contest, and the team with the most money wins. This has happened repeatedly in F1 going back to the thirties (which was an open formula, end ended up dominated by the Nazis, who simply spent a lot more money). Biggest things they could do to encourage overtaking in F1 is a. remove wings and b. stop letting Hermann Tilke design all the tracks, the man's a menace.
 

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I love it :) The race at Laguna Seca this week was great, theres this hill they go down with an S bend half way down it, fucking awesome :)
 

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Everyone knows that track, it's a car track too so meh. MotoGP is fucking dull, equally as dull as F1 is these days. Prost/Senna may have been dominating the field, but they competed with each other brilliantly, and overtaking was actually possible by nearly all drivers in the race, not just one or two like today.
 

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I love it :) The race at Laguna Seca this week was great, theres this hill they go down with an S bend half way down it, fucking awesome :)

That was fucking awesome - agreed. The way they dropped on the S bend (and it's a blind drop) was a joy to watch. And I thought The Doctor had a blinding race considering he is still walking on crutches!
 

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Nah. No matter how much overtaking MotoGP has I get really bored watching bikes go round tracks...

Does that mean you don't like any sport which involves going round a track more than once then?
 

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i agree with that, tbh i dont really like any sport that goes round even half way
 

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Its a shame about the BBC MotoGP coverage, when compared to their excellent F1 show. A 10 second introduction by Jennie cuts immediately to the warm up lap...
 

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I like rally but car pointing (F1) bores the tits off me. The Senna piece just showed how tedious the sport has become.
 

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Does that mean you don't like any sport which involves going round a track more than once then?

Nope. Bikes don't "do it" for me, for some reason. Don't know why.

Maybe it's because if I got a bike I'd definately kill myself (I've no real sense of self preservation) - so if I allowed myself to enjoy bike racing I'd be that much closer to my own death...

...or I just find it dull :)
 

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How many times have I heard people say oo I'd kill myself if I had a bike - I'm a wild man me :p You bloody wouldnt mate. You'd ride it, scare yourself shitless, then be a lot more careful next time :D
 

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Did my CBT with a group of mates whilst at Uni one weekend for a laugh.

Played a last of the late breakers game with a couple of them (first time on a bike for me) - accelerated as fast as we could towards a brick wall at the schoolyard we were doing it at. Mate came off and hit the wall (lol) :D

Thought the better of having a bike. Everyone I know who's got a bike has come off at one point or another - and with my prediliction for speed I think it might be a tad foolish.


Edit: Even if I did slow down some other cnut would hit me anyway :(
 

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I occasionally ogle the latest Kawayamauki Nutter-Bastard RZRRZRR and think I really would like to get back into bikes, then I remember all the times I fell off and all the broken bones back in the day, and realise "I was a really shit motorcyclist" :(
 

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I was in hospital for two weeks back in 1985 when I was 17 with a torn muscle that had healed in the wrong position and had to be reset. Everybody else, and I mean everybody else, on the ward was in there due to motorbike accidents.

There were people with breaks of their arms, legs, feet, skull, you name it. And when they spoke about previous accidents it got even scarier.

I'd done my CBT in 1984 (and been on the telly along with my parents talking about bike safety) but after that time in hospital I never seriously thought about riding again.

And just so you can laugh at me I tore my leg muscle picking up the cat from behind the sofa, Mr Athletic me.
 

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Its a shame about the BBC MotoGP coverage, when compared to their excellent F1 show. A 10 second introduction by Jennie cuts immediately to the warm up lap...

That's because it was on a Sunday evening due to the race being at Laguna Seca, normally you get 30 mins build up before the race, but because of usual Sunday night schedules they had to squeeze it in. It helped that there was a race the weekend before so most of the news was shown then
 

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