2 Handed paladin - 1.83

Manisch Depressiv

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What do you mean with price tag? I can't sell it to you as I don't own the items yet. If you want to use it, feel free, let me know how it works out for you when you have it assembled.
 

Demon2k3

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i meant the price on how much it can cost up yo with all those items. as i got only 11p atm and some of those items are quite pricey.
 

Ballard

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Honestly I think that template is far to expensive for what it is. Im not saying its not good just that the price tag doesnt stack up with what you are getting.

This cheap 400 hit template has an extra 50 af, SOM and oglidarsh belt charges, makes the damage absorbition alot better. Its all quest items apart from cyclone bracer.

p.s My prefered template has winged helm and some more expensive items for similar results as the one below, but if you only have 11p here you go :p

Config Report

Stats

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 400
Con: 81 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 0 Cha: 0
Qui: 80 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 15 Crush: 27 (3)
Cold: 22 (5) Matter: 10 Thrust: 25
Heat: 15 Spirit: 11 Slash: 26 (2)

Skills

10 Two Handed
10 Slash
3 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Quickness
200 Hits
25 Strength
10 Constitution

Other Bonuses

7 Melee Damage
10 Melee Combat Speed
9 Style Damage
46 AF

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Eirenes chestpiece (tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 6 Slash
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 9 Body - 99 Polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 52 Hits - 99 Faceted Blood Essence
Utility: 60.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Two Handed - 99 Imperfect Heated War Sigil
Gem 2: 5 Slash - 99 Imperfect Watery War Sigil
Gem 3: 7 Strength - 99 Rough Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 36 Hits - 99 Imperfect Blood Essence
Utility: 63.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 Faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 7 Body - 99 Imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 44 Hits - 99 Polished Blood Essence
Utility: 56.33

Hands
Name: Mad Tales
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Two Handed - 99 Imperfect Heated War Sigil
Gem 2: 5 Slash - 99 Imperfect Watery War Sigil
Gem 3: 28 Hits - 99 Flawed Blood Essence
Gem 4: 10 Constitution - 99 Flawed Earthen Essence
Utility: 63.67

Two Handed
Name: malice(2h)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00


Neck
Name: Abaddon's Necklace of Anger
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Matter
Effect 3: 5 Body
Effect 4: 6 Spirit
Effect 5: 12 AF
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Parry
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF
Effect 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Eerie darkness stone
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Heat
Effect 2: 5 Matter
Effect 3: 4 Crush
Effect 4: 5 Cold
Effect 5: 5 Body
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 5 Energy
Effect 8: 5 Spirit
Effect 9: 4 Thrust
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Oglidarsh's Belt
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 40 Hits
Effect 5: 4 Crush
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 4 Thrust
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Astaroth's ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 12 AF
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Left Ring
Name: Astaroth's ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 12 AF
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Right Wrist
Name: Cyclone Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Thrust
Effect 2: 10 Slash
Effect 3: 10 Crush
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Crush
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00
 

Demon2k3

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well tbh i don't like that template. First. those 80 con aren't good enough. and some resists are quite bad tbh. nice hits for an cheap template baut it lacks
con
resists
skills=+11 skills is an must in any 2h paladin template. It's an nice cheap template. but why i like manish is the high stats aswell as it's an very good end template.

also this is an paladin template i've amde, not capped str but decent resists.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 96 Int: 0 Hits: 256
Con: 102 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 21 Cha: 0
Qui: 71 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 27 Energy: 23 Crush: 22
Cold: 23 Matter: 24 Thrust: 32
Heat: 17 Spirit: 21 Slash: 24

Skills

7 Crush

7 Thrust

11 Two Handed

11 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

11 Dexterity

124 Hits

23 Strength

25 Constitution

5 Quickness

Other Bonuses

7 Melee Damage

5 Fatigue

9 Style Damage

12 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Eirene's Chestpiece
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 6 Thrust
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Style Damage
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Two Handed - 99 Flawed Heated War Sigil
Gem 2: 4 Slash - 99 Flawed Watery War Sigil
Gem 3: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence
Gem 4: 10 Strength - 99 Flawed Fiery Essence
Utility: 65.33

Head
Name: Sand Scorched Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 2: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 44 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 15.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 19 Strength - 99 Faceted Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 5 Energy - 99 Flawed Light Shielding
Utility: 56.00

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Constitution
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 3 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99 Polished Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 76 Hits - 99 Perfect Blood Essence
Gem 3: 7 Energy - 99 Imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter - 99 Imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 57.67

Right Hand
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Thrust
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 10 AF
Effect 8: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Left Hand
Name: Cycloptic Shield
Level: 51 Quality: 89
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 5 Body
Effect 2: 5 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Matter
Effect 5: 5 Spirit
Effect 6: 40 Hits
Effect 7: 8 AF
Effect 8: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Two Handed
Name: Malice's Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Spirit
Effect 3: 10 Crush
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Flowing Antalya Shawl
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 16 Strength
Effect 2: 16 Constitution
Effect 3: 4 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 4: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 41.33

Jewel
Name: Eerie Stone of Darkness
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 5 Body
Effect 2: 5 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 5 Matter
Effect 6: 5 Spirit
Effect 7: 4 Crush
Effect 8: 4 Thrust
Effect 9: 4 Slash
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Plaited Hair of Malamis
Level: 45 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
Effect 3: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 28.00

Right Ring
Name: Demon Blood Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Cold
Effect 2: 6 Heat
Effect 3: 8 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Thrust
Effect 5: 8 Slash
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 68.00

Left Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Energy
Effect 4: 6 Matter
Effect 5: 6 Spirit
Effect 6: 60 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracers
Level: 47 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Thrust
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Heat
Effect 4: 6 Matter
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00
 

Ballard

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Demon2k3 said:
well tbh i don't like that template. First. those 80 con aren't good enough. and some resists are quite bad tbh. nice hits for an cheap template baut it lacks
con
resists
skills=+11 skills is an must in any 2h paladin template. It's an nice cheap template. but why i like manish is the high stats aswell as it's an very good end template.

also this is an paladin template i've amde, not capped str but decent resists.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 96 Int: 0 Hits: 256
Con: 102 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 21 Cha: 0
Qui: 71 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 27 Energy: 23 Crush: 22
Cold: 23 Matter: 24 Thrust: 32
Heat: 17 Spirit: 21 Slash: 24

Your melee speed is not capped, sun scorched helm has 2% melee speed not 5%

I hate to break it to you but 400 hits and 81 con is more hits that 256 hits 102 con. Without SOM proc and oglardish abalative, im afraid you would get whipped in a duel. Paladins are about surviability and those charges + the extra 50af is a whole lot better than some resists that you will get hit for once in a blue moon. Really winged helm should be in there aswell.

The difference between +11 and +10 is less than .5% damage especially on a paladin that doesnt have massive style growth rates like a steather

Im not trying to claim that what i put above was an uber template (i just whipped it up in 5 mins and i dont use it) but it was an example of how to make an affordable template if you are going to put items like Flowing Antalya Shawl, zahur ring , demon blood belt in your temp it should be a hang of a lot better.
 

Demon2k3

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well the main issue is this

Body: 26 Energy: 15 Crush: 27 (3)
Cold: 22 (5) Matter: 10 Thrust: 25
Heat: 15 Spirit: 11 Slash: 26 (2)

the heat/energy/matter/spirit resists are aweful, magic user will eat this template alive.

aswell manish template is an awesome end template imho and tha items got high utility. the template you made isn't very good In RvR according to my opinion. It's cheap, but i wouldn't use it as and end template at all.
 

Ballard

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Demon2k3 said:
well the main issue is this

Body: 26 Energy: 15 Crush: 27 (3)
Cold: 22 (5) Matter: 10 Thrust: 25
Heat: 15 Spirit: 11 Slash: 26 (2)

the heat/energy/matter/spirit resists are aweful, magic user will eat this template alive.

1- Do you have much rvr experience? No caster in full group RvR use any of the lower damage types above, except enchanters using heat (also if you are familiar with debuff mechanics you will know item crafted heat is of little consequence).

2 - those resists are actually bar heat not far off manishs template .

3- You undervalue toa charges, som charge WILL win you fights
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Ballard said:
3- You undervalue toa charges, som charge WILL win you fights

Never did for me on my old Armsman. Then again I had Battler, Malice and Eirene's arrogance and Warguard and IP2, so I partly agree.

I would use SoM, but everybody is using it, it is cluttering the landscape.
 

Demon2k3

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yes i do have experience in RvR.

Energy=Thanes+thanes procs. Matter=warlock spirit=sm/bd(i think)
i know about debuff mechanics to. still if i want to have an chance on an DR heta is an absolute cap.
 

Ballard

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Demon2k3 said:
Energy=Thanes+thanes procs. Matter=warlock spirit=sm/bd(i think)

SM nukes are cold, They can pb spirit but almost all SM's are dark spec and even if they arent its easy to avoid pbaoe anyway. BD is body (LT) and cold (nuke). Apart from the fact thanes are very rare they dont get invited into many rvr groups. Likewise warlocks rarely get rvr groups.

The main class doing spirit damage in rvr are theurgists which luckily pallies dont have to worry about.

If you look around abit at other classes/realms you will generally see that in templates people mainly cover melee resists, body and cold, heat if you can, and the others really can be treated as much lower priority.
 

Demon2k3

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well i'm gonan go with manisch temp, it's pricey but it seems like an good end template and seems worth to try. NAd btw there's allways farming possible to do and i got the crafted+sc parts done for me allready.
 

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