1.84C - Valewalker love

[Azathrim]

Thane, valk and valevalker changes are way way over the top in solo/small group fights.

Do you have any experience with that, or are you just whining?

 

[Corran]

Do you have any experience with that, or are you just whining?

Thane is very very powerful toon in skirmish fights now. The only "melee" toon i hate fighting (as caster) with a vengance is the thane.. reason for this is that i cant actually nuke them because their range is > mine and they got insta's etc to make it more difficult

 

[xxManiacxx]

Thane is very very powerful toon in skirmish fights now. The only "melee" toon i hate fighting (as caster) with a vengance is the thane.. reason for this is that i cant actually nuke them because their range is > mine and they got insta's etc to make it more difficult

say hello to the valk with charge next week

 

[Corran]

say hello to the valk with charge next week

Valks only run about in zergs most time, so wont really bother me

 

[old.Whoodoo]

What I hate most about these recent patches is that they gave Thanes luv, with decent weapon styles, but then gave a class that was almost identical so much luv it makes you want to puke, so once again Thanes are the least luvd toons in mid. We still lack group utility, valks already had group abs buff, this is another example of how Mythic fuck balance issues.

 

[Nate]

What I hate most about these recent patches is that they gave Thanes luv, with decent weapon styles, but then gave a class that was almost identical so much luv it makes you want to puke, so once again Thanes are the least luvd toons in mid. We still lack group utility, valks already had group abs buff, this is another example of how Mythic fuck balance issues.

i would say savages are a lot lower in the food chain then thanes now, no one plays them..as opposed to thanes nowadays..you should be happy thanes got something...

 

[MaditioN]

new bg seems nice tho, much more equal now, no rr5-ra's and no high rr's.
would prolly activate to try this out :]

 

[Everz]

new bg seems nice tho, much more equal now, no rr5-ra's and no high rr's.
would prolly activate to try this out :]

and OF.. this place sounds like heaven ;D

 

[Glacier]

and OF.. this place sounds like heaven ;D

OF is overrated.

 

[Svartmetall]

What I hate most about these recent patches is that they gave Thanes luv, with decent weapon styles, but then gave a class that was almost identical so much luv it makes you want to puke, so once again Thanes are the least luvd toons in mid. We still lack group utility, valks already had group abs buff, this is another example of how Mythic fuck balance issues.

Er...Valks don't have a group Abs buff...they have a group offensive proc buff.

And I think the Mend line will definitely emphasise the difference between Thanes and Valkyries. Thanes are pretty much pure damage, all-out offensive hybrids; Valks (come next patch) are interrupter/healers with some melee damage on the side. The zeitgeist on VN is to have Valk in a melee group, Thane in a caster group, although to be honest there's going to be so many ways to spec a Valkyrie I wouldn't want to try and define one role for them. The single biggest problem Thanes and Valkyries will have in getting groups is the obstinate refusal of some people to accept that they really are viable and useful classes now.

 

[Mabs]

Er...Valks don't have a group Abs buff...they have a group offensive proc buff.

not entirely true
they are getting that magical ablative chant thing, similair to the shee one but delves for about 1/20 the amount, hence why i respeced mine to 50 OW a while ago

 

[Svartmetall]

not entirely true
they are getting that magical ablative chant thing, similair to the shee one but delves for about 1/20 the amount, hence why i respeced mine to 50 OW a while ago

So...it's not a group Abs buff, then

 

[Mabs]

So...it's not a group Abs buff, then

Buff (Magical Ablative Armor)
Adds to the target's hit points temporarily (which are used to absorb magic damage, up to 25% of each individual hit).
Level Name Target Cast/Duration/Recast Range/Radius Effect Cost
30 Odin's Faith Group 0s/6s per pulse/8s 1500 range 25 Magical 0
40 Odin's Virtue Group 0s/6s per pulse/8s 1500 range 40 0
50 Odin's Temperance Group 0s/6s per pulse/8s 1500 range 70 0

hush now silly troll

 

[Svartmetall]

He didn't specify magical...and he said it was something Valks already had.

 

[Mabs]

He didn't specify magical...and he said it was something Valks already had.

they do in the US :kissit:

 

[Aeris]

abs = absorbtion, not ablative

 

[Puppet]

Do you have any experience with that, or are you just whining?

We dont know yet about VW and Valk in practice, but I can already imagine Thane to be OP in small-fights/solo-fights. Already thanes are formable opponents due to high ranged casting, Doomhammer + Grapple-tactics, Grapple+CB. Adding Levi-style Ragnarok wont make that any better for the enemy tbh

Valewalkers will get access to instant-disease, PBAE-root (based on a style), lifetap and Immolation (a new lifetap with more healing-power for the VW) and Levi-style in 2nd anytime-chain = will be quite sick in 1vs1.

Valkyre is already a tough fight (imo) and adding heals which, according to VNBoards, can keep a Spear Valk alive against a lvl 65+ mob is... well stupidly OP in 1vs1?

Im sure most people knew those classes needed love, but they needed a different kind of love IMO. VW will not get into groups more easily due to the changes, which is WHAT we needed, IMO.

 

[xxManiacxx]

Valks will be insane in 1on1 and PvE with these changes.

Who needs a sum sm?

3 valks +aug/mend healer for the dragon?

 

[Nate]

Valks will be insane in 1on1 and PvE with these changes.

Who needs a sum sm?

3 valks +aug/mend healer for the dragon?

are you repeating yourself or did i just read that twice? would be nice if valks are gonna be good in pve, something else to take our minds off of pet spam

 

[Glacier]

did someone mention sunweapons+proc+ragnarok=dps?

 

[Moaning Myrtle]

And the depressing thing is...I know I will, because it'll bug me like hell if I don't.

That's the problem with being a perfectionist

 

[Tierce_]

'Frontal-> Grasping roots -> Conflagration

- Grasping Roots is now available at Spec 34 in Scythe and has a 10 second PBAE Root.

- Conflagration now procs a 150 DD spell.'

It'll be fun to see how GR works as a frontal positional in a group.

I can imagine having an assist train on me, turning around and doing the chain, leaving the entire /assist train AoE root/snared.. especially with no mention of immunity timers..