1.69e Hunters call of the hounds ;x

[Phixion]

Tell me why infils are overpowered....Which unique part of infils make them so overpowered that you make savages look like poppys.

Now you'll most likely say 2.5 spec since that is the only unique thing infils get, but i didn't develop the game nor made the call since Mythic had to give infils something since SB's had more HP and NS's got dd's.....

Oh and Justin, haven't you cried enough in your "RvR all time low" thread?

Ohhh come on, the Infil TL even admitted infils were stupidly overpowered, 2.5 spec points, 9 second stun off an evade... str/con debuff which totally fucks up SBs dmg...

Yes mythic made the classes, doesn't mean they arent overpowered, kinda funny seeing you call hunters lame for summoning insta pet and running from you, what are they meant to do? stand still and let u DF them to death?

 

[Marczje]

Glottis just beat all your bullshit in this thread peeps, hence the quote in my sig :x

 

[Aussie]

Ohhh come on, the Infil TL even admitted infils were stupidly overpowered, 2.5 spec points, 9 second stun off an evade... str/con debuff which totally fucks up SBs dmg...

Infil TL is a complete utter retard. an r10 infil ML9 who doesnt need anything more.
infil doesnt even come near the overpoweredness level of a savage.

 

[Konah]

infil doesnt even come near the overpoweredness level of a savage.

phix has 'Miditis'

insane melee dmg and/or defence is totally fine and balanced, as long as its on a class from your realm :kissit:

 

[Phixion]

Infil TL is a complete utter retard. an r10 infil ML9 who doesnt need anything more.
infil doesnt even come near the overpoweredness level of a savage.

Being a TL is nothing to do with your own chars RR, Being a TL is all about summing up the class overall...

Why do albs feel so left out, you have plenty of things that mid don't have, savages are that great since nerf, if you think they are come make 1, see for yourself.

 

[bahamot]

Yes mythic made the classes, doesn't mean they arent overpowered, kinda funny seeing you call hunters lame for summoning insta pet and running from you, what are they meant to do? stand still and let u DF them to death?

rofl, its hard to df without evade first

 

[living]

Already has been, mid get 70% absorb while alb/hib gets more.. soo :>>

 

[Evasive]

fatbelly stringer powerslave guden marczje vind hatts goobi etc

did u ever fought against those hunters ?

I have and think I only won from marczje ones even when he used IP and hatts but not sure about him, but when hunters have there purge/ip up it's hard or impossible to kill. And hunters/scouts/rangers are meant to use their bow and keep the distance.

 

[Marczje]

I have and think I only won from marczje ones even when he used IP and hatts but not sure about him, but when hunters have there purge/ip up it's hard or impossible to kill. And hunters/scouts/rangers are meant to use their bow and keep the distance.

You are aware I almost always rvr with yellow buffs right? :|

/edit sry, hes 45, red str

 

[wittor]

You are aware I almost always rvr with yellow buffs right? :|

/edit sry, hes 45, red str

get some items from toa for teh bot !

 

[Trubble]

You will still be interrupted, as well as the advantage in FG v FG rvr, just hit the caster with something to interrupt and the focus disappears. Interrupting focus is done even should the caster have MoC up. Also there's the rate at which this shield converts power to damage. There are plenty of circumstances to balance this ability, as above stated the "problem" for me as a Mid will be that this only gives the opposing realms yet another reason to carry a full enhance buffer into rvr. This will in turn mean more shearing and in the end, more shearing will always damage Midgard because of the lack of ability to field enough specbuffs for the group on 1 char.

Do I detect a hidden whine in this?

Going 46/47 in the bufline, will make you loose out on spread heal. So clerics/druids with this ability will not be able to work as a real medic in a fg rvr group. Its arguable wether its worth using a characterslot in a group for a little better resists, buff shearing that doesnt kill and a focus shield thats easy to interrupt (by insta pbaoe disease for instance).

All you seemed worried about is buffing up the casualties you may have had during the fight. Its less a concern, than actually winning the fight. And with mids speed 6 you can just sprint back to mtk for new bufs if you think too many died...

Giving shamans the focusshield on 41, will make most shamans get this auto, as many go 42 for end regen buf anyway. Shamans will still keep the insta pbaoe disease, the ae root spell and the cure disease... Shamans get some serious love with this, and it costs them nothing.

 

[Divinia]

Scouts hit me for 600.. find a way to give 'em love but not raising their damage on me. ty

 

[Snakester]

I have and think I only won from marczje ones even when he used IP and hatts but not sure about him, but when hunters have there purge/ip up it's hard or impossible to kill. And hunters/scouts/rangers are meant to use their bow and keep the distance.

always keep secondary weps in inventory with poisons on, don't waste endurance until that feckers popped IP, never lost to a hunter using this technique, always spin to counter the hunter walking backwards and getting his pet behind you, never walk backwards to keep the pet infront of u, ie the hunters will get wise and stop and pop arrows at you.

 

[Belomar]

You are aware I almost always rvr with yellow buffs right? :|

Nothing wrong with yellow buffs these days with ToA bonuses, I'm thinking of respeccing my bot to 46 enh and 28 rejuv.

 

[Gef]

your kinda missing the point.

that point being why the fuck do druids get to do dmg and not clerics/shammies... other than them being mythic's luv child ofc...

Read the grab bag? Blatantly not, whine before you know the facts, its the FH way!

”The shears are slightly different for each realm.

- Clerics get the benefit of extra range.
- Shaman get the benefit of a quicker casting time.
- Druids get the benefit of doing more damage.

The reason we made this change is because players lose max hit points when they lose constitution buffs. So, rather then double penalize someone for having a con buff sheared, we removed the base damage done by all three classes when casting a con or str/con shearIt would be unfair if we removed *all* damage for con shears from druids (since “more damage” is their class-specific benefit), so instead we halved the amount of damage they do and removed all damage from the shaman and cleric versions. This decision was made based on player feedback from Pendragon.

 

[Marczje]

get some items from toa for teh bot !

No toa yet, he doesnt even have mota

Nothing wrong with yellow buffs these days with ToA bonuses, I'm thinking of respeccing my bot to 46 enh and 28 rejuv.

Same as above, but should get it sometime soon, 46 inc too!!

 

[stubbe]

Do I detect a hidden whine in this?

Going 46/47 in the bufline, will make you loose out on spread heal. So clerics/druids with this ability will not be able to work as a real medic in a fg rvr group. Its arguable wether its worth using a characterslot in a group for a little better resists, buff shearing that doesnt kill and a focus shield thats easy to interrupt (by insta pbaoe disease for instance).

All you seemed worried about is buffing up the casualties you may have had during the fight. Its less a concern, than actually winning the fight. And with mids speed 6 you can just sprint back to mtk for new bufs if you think too many died...

Giving shamans the focusshield on 41, will make most shamans get this auto, as many go 42 for end regen buf anyway. Shamans will still keep the insta pbaoe disease, the ae root spell and the cure disease... Shamans get some serious love with this, and it costs them nothing.

The point is that with buffshearing live, mids will need a BB/Shearer in group, as will hibs/albs. So it doesn't matter if our shammies get the shield with pre-shearing specs. Albs/Hibs will have to add a non-spreadhealing druid/cleric, we'll have to add a non-pbae diseasing shammy.

 

[Asha]

The point is that with buffshearing live, mids will need a BB/Shearer in group, as will hibs/albs. So it doesn't matter if our shammies get the shield with pre-shearing specs. Albs/Hibs will have to add a non-spreadhealing druid/cleric, we'll have to add a non-pbae diseasing shammy.

or you could live w/o disease

like us !

please?



oh wait I have group cure now, nvm

 

[Phixion]

rofl, its hard to df without evade first

Yeah cos afterall, Infils never evade that slow 2 handed spear the hunters use...

 

[stubbe]

or you could live w/o disease

like us !

please?



oh wait I have group cure now, nvm

It's not just a question of disease. As Mids we can't buff an entire group with 1 shaman, so might as well have a shearer.

 

[Aussie]

It's not just a question of disease. As Mids we can't buff an entire group with 1 shaman, so might as well have a shearer.

Tnx for reminding me albs&hibs have 2 enh specced clerics/druids.

 

[Asha]

1 cleric can do all dex/quick & str/con for a group with toa bonuses I think...maybe let second cleric do mincer

shamie has to do 8 endo buffs - BUT
he could just do aoe dex/quick and give his last dex/quick to healers/himself

you won't need 2 shammie
I doubt there will be time to do 20 buffs after every shear, it will be a case of aoe buffs
you would have to give up disease tho, I think, didn't check

 

[Trubble]

It's not just a question of disease. As Mids we can't buff an entire group with 1 shaman, so might as well have a shearer.

Midgard allready have an Aug-shaman in their build. He will have to push his aug up to get the good shearer stuff, the aoe-bufs and the focus shield. As a side effect his aoe disease become stronger and covers a greater area. Only thing he looses is that insta pbaoe disease. In general I would consider this is good bargain for the aug shaman.

Hibs and Albs have to give up spreadheal/good instas or another class to get a shearer in their group. None of these realms run with high Nurture/Enhance atm. Most likely one of the druids/clerics will go high nurture/enhance, and suffer out on healing ability, so there will be 1½ healer in those groups. Mids will still have their 2½ healers (2xhealers + pac healer, shaman doesnt count).

If this in anyway skews the balance of RvR its to the advantage of Midgard.

I will still argue that your focus on how many people one buffer can buf is way to narrow. AE buffing is gonna be what you do, because you wont have time to buf up before the CG turns up anyway.

 

[Asha]

As a side effect his aoe disease become stronger and covers a greater area.

how do you figure that??

btw he will also lose aoe root pretty much - only having a lvl 20 spell vs lvl 50 toons won't be of much use.

 

[stubbe]

Tnx for reminding me albs&hibs have 2 enh specced clerics/druids.

enh specced druid/cleric has 20 buffs, a shammy has 12. you don't see a difference in buffing efficiency? I'll admit that albs are lacking basebuffs as much as mids are lacking spec buffs. Only realm that can really be "set" with his specbuffers 20 buffs is hibernia.

 

[Trubble]

how do you figure that??

btw he will also lose aoe root pretty much - only having a lvl 20 spell vs lvl 50 toons won't be of much use.

His primary use for aoe root is interrupting the casters, while holding them in place. This will be less effecient in his new spec, but not by much.

 

[stubbe]

His primary use for aoe root is interrupting the casters, while holding them in place. This will be less effecient in his new spec, but not by much.

pbae disease is your primary tool for interrupting in case you a pet on you. believe me, pbae disease makes a BIG difference. especially since now in TOA with BG, if you don't AE interrupt casters, your group will pretty much die insta

 

[Pin]

Nothing wrong with yellow buffs these days with ToA bonuses, I'm thinking of respeccing my bot to 46 enh and 28 rejuv.

44e is enough to cap all with MoArcane2 - then you can get spreadheal

(lose resist buffs, but pfft)