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old.Ramas
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That's all folks.
That's all folks.
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bracken_woodman
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Nice 
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Danamyr
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Wardens are completely shit characters anyway - anyone that plays one is a gimped Druid wannabe IMHO
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yurka_polearm
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nothing to effect alb rvr groups anyway
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Prat
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ah at least it wont nerf my PBT bot friar+pbt bot = virtually unhittable in pve situations
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M® Zîllâ
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well im happy about it
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bracken_woodman
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It aint a huge change, but there are situations where it will make a difference.
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old.Ramas
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The point of the change is to prevent the ring of crocodile tears (causes songs/chants to affect people outside your group) being used across a few groups to give sub 1sec BT.
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K0nah
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a Sheph nerf!
:great:
:great:
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xplo
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Lets make a group of 8 theurs and melee lvl 70 mobs.
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kirennia
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Without ToA it's at 3seconds anyway? As someonelse suggested it's only a fix for ToA so no difference to how it works with us today
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Flimgoblin
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at the moment it's 1s if you get enough 6s pbters in the group
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- Fedaykin -
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Originally posted by Danamyr
Wardens are completely shit characters anyway - anyone that plays one is a gimped Druid wannabe IMHO
yup Sheph is gimped wouldnt want him in my groups
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Belomar
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Sure. It's not as if Wardens provide just the vital resistances (body, energy, spirit) needed to counter the main CC classes of the enemy realms, nosiree.Originally posted by Danamyr
Wardens are completely shit characters anyway - anyone that plays one is a gimped Druid wannabe IMHO
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Merl
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go go mythic make it even more easy for those tanks!
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Sibanac
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Originally posted by Merl
go go mythic make it even more easy for those tanks!
When was the last time you had a sub 3 sec pbt in rvr ?
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alithiel50
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The way PBT currently works, it is possible even with 10s PBT to get 2 bubbles within a second of each other since the bubble is refreshed at a fixed interval.
For example:
You take a hit, which is absorbed by the bubble, and PBT pulses 1 sec later refreshing it in time to absorb the next hit against you.
With the new timing, it is entirely possible for you to have an interval of LONGER than the PBT pulse time between attacks against you being absorbed.
For example:
You take a hit, which is absorbed by the bubble, and PBT pulses 2.9 seconds later (meaning you don't get a new bubble due to the timer). It is now a further 10 seconds before you can get a new bubble, making it effectively 12.9s PBT for that combat round.
Hence this system slightly reduces the effectiveness of single PBT characters in groups - depending on how unlucky you end up being with the timing between enemys swings and PBT pulses!
With the timer being 3 seconds, this pretty much makes having 2 characters with 6s PBT pointless as it's unlikely that they'd be able to time their casts to spot on 3s in order to get a 3s pulse - it would have to be timed perfectly to the clock cycle, as an offset of a cycle in either direction would result in you having a 50/50 chance of your next pulse being at 3s or 6s depending on whether the second cast was fractionaly more or less than 3s after the first. You might as well just stick with a single 6s PBT class and get your group some more damage output!
For example:
You take a hit, which is absorbed by the bubble, and PBT pulses 1 sec later refreshing it in time to absorb the next hit against you.
With the new timing, it is entirely possible for you to have an interval of LONGER than the PBT pulse time between attacks against you being absorbed.
For example:
You take a hit, which is absorbed by the bubble, and PBT pulses 2.9 seconds later (meaning you don't get a new bubble due to the timer). It is now a further 10 seconds before you can get a new bubble, making it effectively 12.9s PBT for that combat round.
Hence this system slightly reduces the effectiveness of single PBT characters in groups - depending on how unlucky you end up being with the timing between enemys swings and PBT pulses!
With the timer being 3 seconds, this pretty much makes having 2 characters with 6s PBT pointless as it's unlikely that they'd be able to time their casts to spot on 3s in order to get a 3s pulse - it would have to be timed perfectly to the clock cycle, as an offset of a cycle in either direction would result in you having a 50/50 chance of your next pulse being at 3s or 6s depending on whether the second cast was fractionaly more or less than 3s after the first. You might as well just stick with a single 6s PBT class and get your group some more damage output!
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Silenzio
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we were rlly suffering hard this issue tnx god is solve...
other prob in the game doesn't matter...
other prob in the game doesn't matter...
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old.Ramas
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Seems to be some confusion in this thread.
Note that the timer starts when the bubble is cast on you, not when the bubble is burst.
So if you recieve bt at 0s, then are hit at 2.9s, you can still recieve a new bubble as of 3.001s.
Maybe *we* aren't suffering, but I suspect people (and mobs!) in the US facing ToA enabled raid armies with RoCT wearing wardens dotted around the battlegroups were certainly suffering up against opponents equipped with sub-1 second pbt.
Note that the timer starts when the bubble is cast on you, not when the bubble is burst.
So if you recieve bt at 0s, then are hit at 2.9s, you can still recieve a new bubble as of 3.001s.
Maybe *we* aren't suffering, but I suspect people (and mobs!) in the US facing ToA enabled raid armies with RoCT wearing wardens dotted around the battlegroups were certainly suffering up against opponents equipped with sub-1 second pbt.