1.65 d...

[jox]

Midgard Axe

- Raider is now an evade style.

- Thrym's Strength had the short stun component removed.

Midgard Sword

- Ice Storm now has an evade opener.

- Sif's Revenge now chains off of Ice Storm

- Draw Out now has a high to-hit bonus

Minstrel

- Added a new shout in the Dischordant Note and Lesser Cacophany lines. Discordant Howl is a new level 43 shout and Deafening Cacophany is a new level 50 shout.

lol

Why not give mincers plate and sbs clown-suits?

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by jox
Midgard Axe

- Raider is now an evade style.

- Thrym's Strength had the short stun component removed.

Midgard Sword

- Ice Storm now has an evade opener.

- Sif's Revenge now chains off of Ice Storm

- Draw Out now has a high to-hit bonus

Minstrel

- Added a new shout in the Dischordant Note and Lesser Cacophany lines. Discordant Howl is a new level 43 shout and Deafening Cacophany is a new level 50 shout.

lol

Why not give mincers plate and sbs clown-suits?

Still leveling your Stun, DD, DD thingy on Pryd?

 

[Lumikki]

Are those changes for real????

xx

 

[jox]

Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by Vasconcelos
Still leveling your Stun, DD, DD thingy on Pryd?

Nah, I am a bit tragic(dont like PvE at all)...

The mincer on Prydwen reached 12 before I got bored and logged in with Jox.

Started a savage and reached 37 before I got extremly bored(felt a bit too FOTM).

Started a warrior in 20 a couple of days ago and manage to reach 24 at least...

But if 1.65 turns out as I think, perhaps... I just have to reroll.

PS: But I still have a tired dark-sm in 47, but he is fucked. First I need to grab the last 3 levels, then I need to do all his quests and then I have to farm sc-gear...zZz. And when all that shit is done, I still wont get any groups, or turn up in pick-up groups with 3 Lvl 45 skalds...

 

[Jiggs]

can you tell what this means?

have no idea of midgard styles and i cba to wade through a style library

 

[ilienwyn]

well tanks will miss some styles, sbs will propably not use them if they have the after evade styles from cs so only class that will use the new after evade styles are propably savages

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by ilienwyn
well tanks will miss some styles, sbs will propably not use them if they have the after evade styles from cs so only class that will use the new after evade styles are propably savages

Wot he said

 

[alithiel50]

Originally posted by jox
Minstrel

- Added a new shout in the Dischordant Note and Lesser Cacophany lines. Discordant Howl is a new level 43 shout and Deafening Cacophany is a new level 50 shout.

You seem to have overlooked the fact that this change parallels one to Skalds...

- Added a new shout in the Warcry and Battle Shout lines. War Howl is a new level 43 shout and Battle Roar is a new level 50 shout.



You've also missed all the changes to Thanes that are obviously going to make them the next FotM in Midgard!!! :uhoh:

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Poor mincers gifv them plate and endreg imo oh and wtf remove timer on purge and ip for them to.

And sb can beat thrust infils every 30min NERF, purge for sb should be 60min timer imo.

 

[jox]

Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by alithiel50
You seem to have overlooked the fact that this change parallels one to Skalds...

- Added a new shout in the Warcry and Battle Shout lines. War Howl is a new level 43 shout and Battle Roar is a new level 50 shout.



You've also missed all the changes to Thanes that are obviously going to make them the next FotM in Midgard!!! :uhoh:

What does skald & thane-improvements have to do with the stealthwar? Give skalds stealth also, and I will shut up.

And btw, if any moderator reads this; this whole thread was supposed to go under Fluffygirls 1.65d-thread.

 

[Arnor]

Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by alithiel50

You've also missed all the changes to Thanes that are obviously going to make them the next FotM in Midgard!!! :uhoh:

what mythic is TOTALLY FUCING MISSING HERE is really simple: Thanes either need INSANE dmg on spells, or UTILITY in the SC line to even have a remote chance of getting into groups on anything other then pure pity. Why the fuck would you group a thane even after these changes? So he can break more mezzes? so he can hit for 2-300 on nukes and 100-150 melee? the fuck you need that for?

fucking mythic

 

[rure_]

you lot have obviously no idea how much the lvl 35 DD gets resisted (minstrel DD)

tbh, I would just be happy if they decreased the resist rate and left the dmg where it is. but hey... more damage and less resists rates is fine to.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Originally posted by jox
Why not give mincers plate and sbs clown-suits?

u got a point

please do that

 

[Shaurr]

They also said that ther will be more and this is just the beginning...

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Shaurr
They also said that ther will be more and this is just the beginning...

so far its kinda useless


all they done is nerfed warriors anytime chain, and given SBs an evade chain that isn't as good as thier current 2 (hammy/leaper = higher dmg, comeback/frosty = stun)

 

[jox]

Originally posted by Shaurr
They also said that ther will be more and this is just the beginning...

Yes, lets hope there is a last cookie for sbs in the jar but I sincerely doubt it. The penance for sbs have just started, and it will presumably take six months at least before they adress the problem.

 

[stinkie]

Personaly I see no reason at all why mincer's should'nt be able to keep a charmed red con pet and stealth at the same time, oh and speed too!....while stealthed.... with plate!.... and make the heal chant a buff... oh and the absorb chant... and throw in duel welding polearms and 3.5 spec points while ur at it.

and only when you face a FG of these all rr10 with buffbots will you know how a caster feels when faced with a savage gank squad.


Regards,


Stinks


p.s for the slower ones, yes its a joke

 

[Flimgoblin]

the 12% damage increase comes with a 2.5% decrease in resists and a 20% increase in power cost...

apparently

 

[Garnet]

Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by alithiel50


You've also missed all the changes to Thanes that are obviously going to make them the next FotM in Midgard!!! :uhoh:

yeah right..thanes will still be gimped and wont be accepted into groups :/

 

[Silenzio]

Originally posted by jox

lol

Why not give mincers plate and sbs clown-suits?

wonder why so wisely u compare minstrel with sb
instead ov skald...

skald got 2 dd as minstrel +shorter dd recast
+ more hp...

think nice toys arent em?

 

[old.anubis]

Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by Silenzio
wonder why so wisely u compare minstrel with sb
instead ov skald...

skald got 2 dd as minstrel +shorter dd recast
+ more hp...

think nice toys arent em?

not shorter
they decreased recast to match minstrels

 

[Nazghul-]

Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by Silenzio
wonder why so wisely u compare minstrel with sb
instead ov skald...

skald got 2 dd as minstrel +shorter dd recast
+ more hp...

think nice toys arent em?

Skalds have no part in the stealthwar. He already explained that.

 

[Haldar]

stealth, climb walls, ae mez (3 sec cast with high dex), good grp-friendly RA, ablative chant and demezz spell are better tools.

 

[sazard]

Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by Silenzio
wonder why so wisely u compare minstrel with sb
instead ov skald...

skald got 2 dd as minstrel +shorter dd recast
+ more hp...

think nice toys arent em?

How many times do you see a skald run into a Minstrel and have a one on one fight?

How many times do you see a Minstrel running around uber ganking any Midgard/Hibernian stealther he see's with no problem at all, and if by any remote chance the Mincer does run into trouble he has a nice little speed gadget to get him away in a matter of seconds.

btw Skald = Viking
Mincer = Rogue

That would be another reason why we don't compare Skald to Mincer =)

 

[zoia]

Re: Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by sazard
How many times do you see a skald run into a Minstrel and have a one on one fight?

Quite often actually.


But seriously, this is awesome news!!!

"- The radius of the Call Mjollnir line has been increased to 350 and the damage adjusted upwards."

It has been increased from 350 to...uhmm...350!!
Maybe they mean the whole line. That is even better and thanes can start breaking more mezzes from an even earlier age.


The skald changes were nice enough, but it still doesn't give me a usefull chant i can play during combat.
The damage add is just to weak to be worth it.
I don't care much about the hitpoint increase, i still have crap defence.
At least minstrels now have another reason to go 50 instrument.
Not sure the 50 DD alone is worth it for a skald. Perhaps a better DA at 50 would help?

 

[etcetra]

Re: Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by Garnet
yeah right..thanes will still be gimped and wont be accepted into groups :/

what she said.

 

[belth]

Originally posted by Hroft[BC]
stealth, climb walls, ae mez (3 sec cast with high dex), good grp-friendly RA, ablative chant and demezz spell are better tools.

AoE-mezz cast time been changed to take dex in to account? If so, good. Was propably fun for minstrels to standaround for 5s and wave arms like an idiot, nobody's gonna spot that, no.

 

[Negura]

Mmmm, reactive evade chain for my savage. WTG!
And new DD for my minstrel who's 50 instruments.
Bring more of these.

 

[froler-mid]

thanes should just be deleted as class and everyone that had one would be given a /level 50.




thanks!

 

[Silenzio]

Re: Re: Re: 1.65 d...

Originally posted by Nazghul-
Skalds have no part in the stealthwar. He already explained that.

cant see note ov that on the main post n btw

skald is mid speeder... minster is alb speeder

so u have to compare em ...


otherwise i sould say
that armsman lost they best anytime chain n heavyer damage anytime

wile zerk got n higer growup rate n better proc on a good style...

so?

think ppl should moan less n be more realist...
dont allwasy see the glass half empty...