1.62 live

[old.Lethul]

Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.62 live

Originally posted by Jimmeh
can some1 explain to me how CB's are soo gimped compared to shades and infils?

Slow weapons, no stun styles except CD, one evade will keel you vs assassins, 1 poison, only one dmg type (goes for sz to) - only str weapons (str/con poison affects sb's more), crappy RA's, worst buffbot (=]). Probably more but im tired today so i wont type more..

 

[Arnor]

Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.62 live

Originally posted by legionaire
are you saying arnor that LA is ok as it is, or Archers are not gimped..?

oh fuck off please.


ive given my statement on the LA issue enough times, same with archers.



I was flaming his apparent lack of anything resembling a brain, his ability to puke up shit others has said before him.



and NO i dont think LA or archers are ok as of patch 1.60

 

[Jimmeh]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.62 live

Originally posted by old.Lethul
Slow weapons, no stun styles except CD, one evade will keel you vs assassins, 1 poison, only one dmg type (goes for sz to) - only str weapons (str/con poison affects sb's more), crappy RA's, worst buffbot (=]). Probably more but im tired today so i wont type more..

are hand axes that slow?
only 1 poison? ever heard of changing weapons
buffbots dont actually count cos they are aload of rubbish, the game wasnt made so every1 could have a buffbot
the use of 2 handed weapons on the initial PA gives you a larger initial damage

imo ur not that gimped, but i havent played the class

 

[Runolaz]

Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.62 live

Originally posted by Jimmeh
can some1 explain to me how CB's are soo gimped compared to shades and infils?

Remeber that when we say CB are gimped we mean vs other assasins. The problem is finding another class solo, so most of the time just like you have grp figthing grp, you'll have assassins fighting assasins.

I'm not saying a CB can't take a INF/NS, but hands down a INF/NS should have little problem taking one. If we take a look at 50TH/44CS vs 50AX/44CS. A CB does not have a in-combat-stun like Dragonfang or Diamondback. The CB is left with hamstring chain. That means one evade and your dead unless you purge. Purge is on a 30min time and ppl can't seriously point at this RA and say it balanced. Get purge and you'll find most of the time you don't have it when you need it. I use purge for slam, mez, stun etc, it's a good RA but nothing like the 9 sec Stun from Dragonfang. Then you have the effect of debuff, and lets not kid ourselves every assasin nows that Env is the most important poison to land. Since the effect of the debuff from Env hit the SB twice as hard as it does for the INF/NS, thus with the spec above the INF will outdamage the SB on CS styles. In addition the CB get much lower weapnskill = higher chance of evade, and we are back to Dragonfang again. Then you have swing spd, and both NS and INF swing faster than SB. On top of all this you have RA's. 2H does you no good vs other assasins, it sucks up end - one miss/evade and your fucked - simple as that.

 

[salamurhaaja]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.62 live

Originally posted by Runolaz
Remeber thet when we say CB are gimped we mean vs other assasins. The problem is finding another class solo, so most of the time just like you have grp figthing grp, you'll have assassins fighting assasins.

I'm not saying a CB can't take a INF/NS, but hands down a INF/NS should have little problem taking one. If we take a look at 50TH/44CS vs 50AX/44CS. A CB does not have a in-combat-stun like Dragonfang or Diamondback. The CB is left with hamstring chain. That means one evade and your dead unless you purge. Purge is on a 30min time and ppl can't seriously point at this RA and say it balanced. Get purge and you find most of the time you don't have it when you need it. I use purge for slam, mez, stun etc, it a good RA but nothing like the 9 sec Stun from Dragonfang. Then you have the effect of debuff, and lets not kid ourselves every assasin nows that Env is the most important poison to land. Since the effect of the debuff from Env hit the SB twice as hard as it does for the INF/NS, thus with the spec above the INF will outdamage the SB on CS styles. In addition the a CB get much lower weapnskill = higher chance of evade, and we are back to the Dragonfang again. Then you have swing spd, and both NS and INF swing faster than SB. On top of all this you have RA's. 2H does you no good vs other assasins, it sucks up end - one miss/evade and your fucked - simple as that.

That's about same thoughts as I do, got nothing to add really.

 

[legionaire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.62 live

Originally posted by Arnor
oh fuck off please.


ive given my statement on the LA issue enough times, same with archers.



I was flaming his apparent lack of anything resembling a brain, his ability to puke up shit others has said before him.



and NO i dont think LA or archers are ok as of patch 1.60

Have you ever tried to be constructive when you reply,Oh i guess not. i only asked the question cos your first reply you didnt state what so pissed you off.

 

[-yoda-]

Originally posted by old.Thanatlos
*we'll see the number of lvl 50 wardens online in rvr decrease from 5 to 2

the bubble busting skills of archers classes ONLY penetrates those who the pbt doesnt originate from. so you as a warden are not hardly afected by the new bubblebursting skills only time u migt getg hit more is with rapid fire , but even then i presume u always grpd in rvr so one archer rapid firing @ you is gona be dead by you or your grp long before he kills u.

 

[Karlo]

Re: ...

Originally posted by jox
The gimps will quit, the good ones will adapt.

 

[loxleyhood]

I would also like to point out that the game isn't exactly swarming with archers either.

 

[Spudgie]

All thats happened is casters are rerolling.

 

[skile]

People are so used to archers being totally shit in groups. Now they start to complain when we actully do damage.

A archer doing damage, WTF WTF WTF NERF!!!!

 

[darbey]

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Originally posted by jox
The gimps will quit, the good ones will adapt.

Well said, hopefully will get rid of 3/4 of them then.

Oh yeah and Arnor peple might actually listen to you or take you more seriously if you managed to post without littering posts with expletives and insults.

 

[samildanachh]

Originally posted by salamurhaaja
Like I said, I will be playing my SB after 1.62. Unless there comes another server or whole another game.
Maybe I start grouping whit another SB, who knows.
And yes, I'm exping another buffbot, healer, for haste. But it's in the same account as my shammy, so basically I use only 1 buffbot like every1 else.

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lame