Lag not server related (monday morning, 8th of march)

mnemonicus · Mar 8, 2004

Wanted to start DaoC this morning to farm some scrolls, but I my client couldnt even connect to the login server. I dont know the IP for the excalibur server from the top of my head, but I ran a tracert on www.camelot-europe.com and found an extreme bad routing problem starting once I get to Paris

1 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms qn-82-217-1-1.quicknet.nl [82.217.1.1]
2 16 ms 12 ms 12 ms nl-alk-rc-01-ge-0-0-0-3000.multikabel.net 13.7
3.255.226]
3 12 ms 16 ms 14 ms nl-alk-rc-02-ge-0-1-0-3030.multikabel.net [213.7
3.255.194]
4 17 ms 17 ms 20 ms zar1-ge-2-1-0.Amsterdamamt.cw.net [208.173.220.1
13]
5 12 ms 12 ms 18 ms zcr2-ge-2-1-0.Amsterdamamt.cw.net [208.173.220.1
46]
6 12 ms 15 ms 12 ms bcr2-so-2-0-0.Amsterdam.cw.net [208.173.209.197]

7 18 ms 29 ms 20 ms bcr2.Brussels.cw.net [206.24.146.62]
8 21 ms 18 ms 17 ms bcr1-ae0.Brussels.cw.net [206.24.147.29]
9 32 ms 34 ms 22 ms bcr3.par.cw.net [195.2.1.14]
10 * 24 ms * opentransit-gw.PAR.cw.net [195.2.2.2]
11 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
12 82 ms 23 ms 26 ms P6-0.BAGCR1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.93]
13 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
14 * 23 ms 23 ms WanadooPortails.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.
54]
15 24 ms * * 193.252.122.14
16 24 ms * 24 ms www.camelot-europe.com [193.252.123.35]

Came out a bit crap though :m00:

As you can see trace starts in the Netherlands...

Linnet · Mar 8, 2004

mnemonicus said:
Wanted to start DaoC this morning to farm some scrolls, but I my client couldnt even connect to the login server. ...

The game crashes back to the desktop on connecting to the login server for me. Doesn't look to be a network issue here, though.

(Edited to show tracert -- veeery slow on the opentransit stretch:

Tracing route to 193.252.123.33 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.152.7.254
3 10 ms 10 ms 31 ms rdng-t2cam1-a-ge92.inet.ntl.com [62.253.122.1]
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms winn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [62.253.121.
1]
5 11 ms 10 ms 50 ms win-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.113]

6 10 ms 10 ms 40 ms win-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.162]
7 60 ms 20 ms 40 ms P4-0.BRSBB1.Pop.opentransit.net [193.251.254.145
]
8 10 ms 50 ms 10 ms So5-0-0.LONCR1.London.opentransit.net [193.251.2
43.242]
9 20 ms 40 ms 40 ms P1-0.PASCR3.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.251
.128.222]
10 61 ms 50 ms 20 ms P14-0.AUVCR1.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net [193.
251.243.185]
11 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms P6-0.BAGCR1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.93]
12 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms P9-0.BAGBB2.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.254]
13 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms WanadooPortails.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.
54]
14 20 ms 50 ms 20 ms 193.252.122.14
15 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 193.252.123.33

Trace complete.

)

Galos · Mar 8, 2004

Having the same problems, looking to me as its again the opentransit, IP for daoc server is 193.252.123.33

Tracing route to 193.252.123.33 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms . [192.168.2.1]
2 11 ms * 10 ms qn-213-231-210-1.quicknet.nl [213.231.210.1]
3 12 ms * 9 ms nl-alk1-ra-02.multikabel.net [212.127.255.155]
4 10 ms * 10 ms nl-alk-rc-02-ge-1-0-0-3001.multikabel.net [213.7
3.255.235]
5 12 ms * * zar1-ge-2-1-0.Amsterdamamt.cw.net [208.173.220.1
13]
6 12 ms * 10 ms zcr2-ge-2-0-0.Amsterdamamt.cw.net [208.173.220.1
30]
7 12 ms * 13 ms bcr2-so-2-0-0.Amsterdam.cw.net [208.173.209.197]

8 15 ms * 15 ms bcr2.Brussels.cw.net [206.24.146.62]
9 15 ms * 100 ms bcr1-ae0.Brussels.cw.net [206.24.147.29]
10 23 ms * 21 ms bcr3.par.cw.net [195.2.1.14]
11 * 20 ms * opentransit-gw.PAR.cw.net [195.2.2.2]
12 * 21 ms * P13-0.AUVCR1.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net [193.
251.243.217]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 22 ms * * P9-0.BAGBB2.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.254]
15 * 22 ms * WanadooPortails.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.
54]
16 25 ms * * 193.252.122.14
17 24 ms * 21 ms 193.252.123.33

Trace complete.

Asharith · Mar 8, 2004

Same problem .. started Sunday morning got worse in the afternoon a little bit better at evening .. but now is really bad :eek7:

.. got 75% pkg loss at opentransit 195.2.2.2 Can understand they didnt fix during the weekend But FFS can we get a new router PLZ ! :twak:

Asharith · Mar 8, 2004

Btw Galos you from Alkmaar ? :cheers:

Galos · Mar 8, 2004

Asharith said:
Btw Galos you from Alkmaar ?

Nah, IJmuiden, but close enough :drink:

Donderkopje · Mar 8, 2004

tracert problem

i have the same problem and i am also using quiknet cable

old.windforce · Mar 8, 2004

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.0.0.138
3 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 195.190.242.41
4 26 ms 42 ms 143 ms adsl-200.gw1.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.218]
5 16 ms 17 ms 15 ms gige4-2.hsipaccess1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [212.7
2.44.97]
6 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms ae-0-54.mp2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [213.244.165.8
2]
7 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms so-3-0-0.mp2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [212.187.128.
29]
8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms ge-6-0.core1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [195.122.136.
45]
9 104 ms 103 ms 104 ms FT-Level3.Level3.net [212.73.240.186]
10 105 ms 105 ms 105 ms So1-0-0.FFTCR1.Frankfurt.opentransit.net [193.25
1.132.89]
11 105 ms 105 ms 105 ms P6-0.AUVCR2.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net [193.2
51.132.74]
12 105 ms 105 ms 105 ms P13-0.AUVCR1.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net [193.
251.243.217]
13 106 ms 106 ms 105 ms P6-0.BAGCR1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.93]
14 104 ms 104 ms 104 ms P9-0.BAGBB2.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.254]
15 107 ms 106 ms 106 ms WanadooPortails.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.
54]
16 105 ms 105 ms 104 ms 193.252.122.14
17 106 ms 105 ms 105 ms 193.252.123.33

De trace is voltooid.

ffs, opentransit sucks, 100+ ms ping :eek7:

Brighdaasa · Mar 8, 2004

I'm from Belgium, isp Telenet and i have the same problem:

the moment the ping trace enters Opentransit i get 20-30% packetloss, causing huge lag at times, and ofc linkdeath

the rest of my connection is fine, no probs pinging to lets say gamespy.com

i hope it is fixed soon

Aeon · Mar 8, 2004

I was fine last night. Haven't tried logging on yet.

My trace from xs4all (DSL provider in Netherlands)

C:\>tracert 193.252.123.33

Tracing route to 193.252.123.33 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 10 ms 10 ms <10 ms 195.190.249.10
3 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 42.ge-2-0-1.xr2.d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.201]
4 10 ms 10 ms <10 ms 0.so-2-3-0.xr1.sara.xs4all.net [194.109.5.106]
5 10 ms <10 ms 10 ms ge-3-1-0.nar1.AMS1.gblx.net [208.49.125.141]
6 10 ms <10 ms 10 ms 64.215.195.210
7 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms So3-0-0.FFTCR1.Frankfurt.opentransit.net [193.251.154.165]
8 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms P6-0.AUVCR2.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net [193.251.132.74]
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms P13-0.AUVCR1.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net [193.251.243.217]
10 20 ms 20 ms 30 ms P6-0.BAGCR1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.241.93]
11 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms P9-0.BAGBB2.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.241.254]
12 30 ms 20 ms 20 ms WanadooPortails.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.54]
13 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms 193.252.122.14
14 30 ms 40 ms 50 ms 193.252.123.33

Trace complete.

Galos · Mar 8, 2004

Seems like its some specific providers that have the problems and not everyone, im sure this has happened before and also with opentransit, took days to be fixed and they reffered to it as opentransit hickups iirc

Cyradix · Mar 8, 2004

On skynet in Belgium and I had no problems. A friend of mine with the same provider who lives about 200m from my house was going LD every 10 min...
Very strange..... :eek7:

sibanac · Mar 8, 2004

Aye my telenet connection normaly never lags, sunday i had constant packet loss and LD's while some friends who live about 1km away had perfect connection on the same ISP.
30+% loss on the opentrans network

Galos · Mar 8, 2004

All holland and belgium again with these problems its all the same so my best quess is its gonna take days again before its fixed like last time :eek2:

Ilum · Mar 8, 2004

I'm from Norway and I am experience these problems myself.

Galos · Mar 8, 2004

Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=47
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=47
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=47
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=47
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=47
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=47
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.33: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=47
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

bleh ;(

Tufnir · Mar 8, 2004

Check www.pingplotter.com download the freeware program there. Send your reports to hostmaster@yourisp.com with a cpy to hostmaster@opentransit.net. Tell them that this is a packetloss problem.

Several in my guild from belgium is also experience these problems, especially with the pasturelle opentransit router. Ask them to route you via another router, just not that one.

Mordur · Mar 8, 2004

same here, opentransit got 30-80% packetloss

Gizor · Mar 8, 2004

Old.Ilum said:
I'm from Norway and I am experience these problems myself.

Is your isp Telenor?

I've experienced these problems as well, with that isp :x (with ADSL from Telenor that is)

Eroa · Mar 8, 2004

well.. like its new that opentransit sucks?

Tufnir · Mar 8, 2004

Gizor said:
Is your isp Telenor?

I've experienced these problems as well, with that isp :x (with ADSL from Telenor that is)

Nextgentel in norway working fine

Gizor · Mar 8, 2004

Tufnir said:
Nextgentel in norway working fine

Always Telenor having them problems

(their routing sucks, imo)
But I'm going to check when I get home, did check a few hours ago, so not sure right now.

Galos · Mar 8, 2004

Its multiple ISP in holland which run through opentransit, others seem to be working fine tho... Still doesnt take away the annoying fact that u cant play on a day off from work

Krakatau · Mar 8, 2004

Well, some are NOT ISP related..
So please don't belittle the issue of the server lag :flame:

All green light ingame and people still get casting times of 1-30 seconds, but don't you worry, GOA are on it :cheers:

Server lag on Midgard ToA zones
[2004-8-03]

Hiyas everyone,

Just a quick note today to point out that we are aware of the lag issue on the ToA Midgard zones for Prydwen for the last few days. We have been working on this since the release of Trials of Atlantis. More information about this as soon as possible, just letting you know that we know.

On a side note, some of you are also suffering from normal (internet) latency lately. This is not something under our direct control sadly but when we can, we do try to contact the various ISP involved.

An easy way to see if the latency is server side or ISP based is to check the latency indicators in game (SHIFT+P by default). Usually, when you have all the indicators green but are having delays in actions such as casting spells or sitting, this is server side. Currently only Midgard (ToA zones) has the problem on Prydwen and as said above, this is being worked on. If the indicators are going on the yellow or red, then this is most likely a problem somewhere between your computer and our servers.

Iskander · Mar 8, 2004

I live in Belgium aswell and my friends and me have huge lagspikes and some Linkdeads. I hope it gets fixed soon, as I need to farm alot more scrolls ;-)

Gizor · Mar 8, 2004

mine seems to be fine now

(but of course back with the normal lag spikes

...problem I had btw could maybe be something else, didnt save trace either so :< Oh well.)

Ambie · Mar 8, 2004

I have exactly the same but...

On my own comp, I can't log in, and if I log in I LD within a second.
On my dads comp (slower than mine) has no lag problems at all
Both at same router...

Anyone has an idea what I can do?

Shanaia · Mar 21, 2004

yep going trough opentransit as well and that is where the problem is .. no packetloss but huge lag from those routers

Fana · Mar 21, 2004

Sweden here, using the swedish university net (sunet) 10mbit connnection, and this evening i suffered 23 ld's :eek2: during a period of 4.5 hours (doing ml4 - a wonder i completed it). Didnt perform a tracert at the time i was playing tho, and now it seems ok.

Cozak · Mar 21, 2004

Could this have anything to do with going LD everytime i zone from SI -> Classic or Classic to SI?

Lag not server related (monday morning, 8th of march)

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