New Frontiers - Relic Raid History.

Xajorkith · Nov 26, 2004

Thurs-18-Nov-04 21:50 CET Ardamel from Midgard took Hibernian Strength Relic from Hibernia - A New Beginning

Thurs-25-Nov-04 03:50 CET Tappi from Albion took Midgard’s Strength Relic from Midgard - Red Bull Raid

Thurs-25-Nov-04 03:50 CET Tappi from Albion took Hibernians Strength Relic from Midgard - Red Bull Raid

Time is in CET because http://daoc-stats.com/Excalibur/ uses CET and the GOA XML is in CET.

A raid can only be deemed successful if the relic is brought home; hence time is actually "end of raid" not start.

Xajorkith · Nov 26, 2004

And just for fun

Tappi's Raid produced 1 thread with a total of 458 (+) Whines and Gratz
Ardamels Raid produced 1 thread with a total of 168 Whines and Gratz

If I got anything wrong please post, then we should get this stickied.

A few people have said who gives a feck about this type of stat.
There are not that many raids, around 40 in almost three years, the organiser has often had to do substantial work, and that person has to have developed the charisma to get 100+ people to following them into a battle, not many people can achieve this. I think any person can play 24/7 and get R10, but leading a successful raid has qualities only a few have, and as such the leaders should be given credit where there is none on the stats sites.

Glottis · Nov 26, 2004

Lol, writing down the times the relics where taking is kind of one sided...
Showing that the Hib relic had been open for about 8 hours before the relics where taken...
Or maybe showing that the Mid relic had been open since about 23:00 cet gives a better indication of the timing of the raids...
Regards, Glottis

Nuked · Nov 26, 2004

Aybabtu · Nov 26, 2004

Glottis said:
Lol, writing down the times the relics where taking is kind of one sided...
Showing that the Hib relic had been open for about 8 hours before the relics where taken...
Or maybe showing that the Mid relic had been open since about 23:00 cet gives a better indication of the timing of the raids...
Regards, Glottis

I stopped playing some time ago, but if that is the case then it wouldn't help his argument if people knew...

Smilewhenyousaythat · Nov 26, 2004

Xajorkith said:
Thurs-18-Nov-04 21:50 CET Ardamel from Midgard took Hibernian Strength Relic from Hibernia - A New Beginning

QUOTE]

Lets be accurate here pls:

Ardamel from Mid took Hib Str Relic from Hib - 'Wtf the doors opened? How'd that happen? Quick - charge!'

Ghaladriel · Nov 26, 2004

Smilewhenyousaythat said:
Xajorkith said:

Thurs-18-Nov-04 21:50 CET Ardamel from Midgard took Hibernian Strength Relic from Hibernia - A New Beginning

QUOTE]

Lets be accurate here pls:

Ardamel from Mid took Hib Str Relic from Hib - 'Wtf the doors opened? How'd that happen? Quick - charge!'

Click to expand...

LOL xD

zx^ · Nov 26, 2004

so u use gmt on OF and Cet on NF hmm

ohh and u forgot this

[2004/11/25]
[03:50:03]
- »Albion« conquered the »Midgard Melee relic« from »Midgard«
- »Albion« conquered the »Hibernia Melee relic« from »Midgard«
[02:50:03]
- »Midgard Melee relic« is »neutral«
- »Hibernia Melee relic« is »neutral«
something wrong with xml or did it take 1 hour to get home ? 1hour not a sec more or less

Castus · Nov 27, 2004

Oo i get a phrase into DAOC

Fana · Nov 27, 2004

Glottis said:
Lol, writing down the times the relics where taking is kind of one sided...
Showing that the Hib relic had been open for about 8 hours before the relics where taken...
Or maybe showing that the Mid relic had been open since about 23:00 cet gives a better indication of the timing of the raids...
Regards, Glottis

And closed again after midnight when mids retook Hlid, then went to bed thinking rvr was over for the day. But no...

Icebreaker · Nov 27, 2004

Fana said:
And closed again after midnight when mids retook Hlid, then went to bed thinking rvr was over for the day. But no...

Really dumb to think that.

Well, the Trolls......

Gordonax · Nov 27, 2004

Xajorkith said:
And just for fun

Tappi's Raid produced 1 thread with a total of 458 (+) Whines and Gratz
Ardamels Raid produced 1 thread with a total of 168 Whines and Gratz

That's because Albs can even zerg threads when we want to

Jergiot · Nov 27, 2004

Fana said:
And closed again after midnight when mids retook Hlid, then went to bed thinking rvr was over for the day. But no...

hi, i retake a keep with still loads albs out, i dont bother to claim, i just log.

moron.

Jergiot · Nov 27, 2004

or u did claim, dont remember, but u didnt stay or had anyone stay behind for atleast 10 mins. when albs got there it was completly deserted...

naiv to think another attack wont come so early after the retake.

Calo · Nov 27, 2004

Jergiot said:
or u did claim, dont remember, but u didnt stay or had anyone stay behind for atleast 10 mins. when albs got there it was completly deserted...

naiv to think another attack wont come so early after the retake.

yes we are srry we think that rl is more important then some daoc relic which means shit.

Heath · Nov 27, 2004

Calo said:
yes we are srry we think that rl is more important then some daoc relic which means shit.

If it means so little....why whine so much ??

Anyway..i was one of the first people back at hild (if not the first) for the retake..it was unclaimed/unguarded and unloved. Taking it back took a few mins....if the middies didnt realise what a big flame coming back out if the keep was...boo hoo to them.

Chilly · Nov 27, 2004

Mod shoudl sticky+delete all spam in this thread rly.

less whine, more documentation, keep bollocks to bollocks threads!

Aussie · Nov 27, 2004

zx^ said:
something wrong with xml or did it take 1 hour to get home ? 1hour not a sec more or less

could be, took ages xDDDDDDD
getting boats to hild . getting zerg to hild gatherpoint etc ~~~~
& captain of boat driving wrong dir xDD

Flimgoblin · Nov 28, 2004

Chilly said:
Mod shoudl sticky+delete all spam in this thread rly.

less whine, more documentation, keep bollocks to bollocks threads!

the starting post was biased enough to be whine in itself

I could nuke the entire thread if you want.

Calo · Nov 28, 2004

Heath said:
If it means so little....why whine so much ??

Anyway..i was one of the first people back at hild (if not the first) for the retake..it was unclaimed/unguarded and unloved. Taking it back took a few mins....if the middies didnt realise what a big flame coming back out if the keep was...boo hoo to them.

Did i whine somewhere?

yes we mids didnt defend for some reason, now go figure out why.

Heath · Nov 28, 2004

Well...i can figure out a few things

A) you were all tired and thought you had us beat
B) you didnt want the stupid str relics anyway
C) it was an alarmclock raid and no-one was up to defend
D) it was a redbull raid and you were all out cos Albies got it all
E) Redbull gives you wings so we flew in, snatched the relic and flew back

Any of the above will do, But, in all honesty..i cannot understand the reasoning why so many mids logged, or didnt bother to repel us. I don't believe that they thought it was over with 2 keeps and all towers taken, and defended...and the 3rd keep in the chain so totally undefended by mids that we would be daft not to try again.

At the end of the day, it happened. If it was middies raiding alb that way..and i had to log for the night, i could not moan if we lost them. I would not ask mid or hib to stop just because it got to bedtime. If i could not be arsed to hang on to defend them, my hard luck. And, i am sure all realms will agree with that.

But, you mids did defend...dont say you didnt to save face because you are saying that the efforts of your realm mates counted for nothing. They didnt, they made us work damn hard at it. And they deserve bloody big gratz for putting up one hell of a fight. :clap:

Coldbeard · Nov 28, 2004

No really , we werent many mids to defend and had a hard time getting people to retake hlid while some was up at relic gate. Lots of people did not bother to come and help when CTA was issued cuz of CTA had been going on over a long time , at least in the FoM alliance .. WR and RS alliance diddnt call to arms for much later and I think most people diddnt think of CTA as that important anymore due to the fact that there it had been used quite frequently .. its like the wolf thingy

Also we had various leaders but not all with same authority as Ardamel so lots of people not listening and not doing what leaders said definetly weakened us and hindered a better defence and more quick retakes of keeps. The reason hlid was empty was that the force that retook it ( my grp was one of em ) had to hurry to Nott to assist the defence there.

Xajorkith · Nov 28, 2004

Flimgoblin said:
the starting post was biased enough to be whine in itself I could nuke the entire thread if you want.

I put up a post where every single piece of information is fact, I said how that fact was derived and why, I asked for anyone to correct me (Alb, Mid, Hib) if I was wrong in any way. The fact that I didn't get 200 flames from Albs would be indicative that at the very least some of it was correct.

How the feck can that be biased?

Go nuke the thread, if it makes you feel better, oh mighty one, it will just go to show you're no better than 90% of the other posters on here.

Overpowered · Nov 28, 2004

I think I know what happens nxt. Albs take Mid pow relics because Mids get outzerged 24/7. Albs take Hib pow relic because there hardly is any Hibs left. And in the end; Albs take all keeps due to noone left in Midgard/Hibernia.

Fana · Nov 28, 2004

Overpowered said:
I think I know what happens nxt. Albs take Mid pow relics because Mids get outzerged 24/7. Albs take Hib pow relic because there hardly is any Hibs left. And in the end; Albs take all keeps due to noone left in Midgard/Hibernia.

Sounds plausible

Matchstick Man · Nov 28, 2004

very plausible, and hibs are actually helping albs take relics atm.

Arkian · Nov 28, 2004

Incidently the times taken from the XML are 30 minutes out, i.e. It was 2:23 am GMT (3:23 am CET) when the Mid+Hib relics were 'going up the pole' in Excalibur.

Arkian · Nov 28, 2004

On a different note, anybody got any ideas why daoc-stats is showing the keep stats as:
7-5-9??

doesn't make sense

Smilewhenyousaythat · Nov 28, 2004

Fana said:
Sounds plausible

Yes - will all mids make sure they clean out the trollsh*t before they leave.

Namefake · Nov 28, 2004

Xajorkith said:
Thurs-18-Nov-04 21:50 CET Ardamel from Midgard took Hibernian Strength Relic from Hibernia - A New Beginning

Thurs-25-Nov-04 03:50 CET Tappi from Albion took Midgard’s Strength Relic from Midgard - Red Bull Raid

Thurs-25-Nov-04 03:50 CET Tappi from Albion took Hibernians Strength Relic from Midgard - Red Bull Raid

Time is in CET because http://daoc-stats.com/Excalibur/ uses CET and the GOA XML is in CET.

A raid can only be deemed successful if the relic is brought home; hence time is actually "end of raid" not start.

update:

Sunday-28-Nov-04 ~23:00 CET 400+? Albs took Midgard's Power Relic from Midgard - Another zerg

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