Thane Template

Hi this is my first try on a thane template, so i would like to hear what you think of it, bad things, what should be changed, stuff like that.


Config Report

Stats

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Str: 81 Int: 0 Hits: 242
Con: 77 Pie: 50 Power: 0
Dex: 82 Cha: 0
Qui: 66 Emp: 0


Resists

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Body: 28 Energy: 27 Crush: 26 (2)
Cold: 27 (5) Matter: 24 Thrust: 25
Heat: 27 Spirit: 27 Slash: 29 (3)


Skills

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8 Parry
11 Hammer
11 Shield
8 Stormcalling

Focus

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Cap Increases

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5 Dex
40 Hits
5 Str

Other Bonuses

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4 Style Damage Bonus
4 Spell Range Bonus
4 Spell Damage Bonus
5 Fatigue
5 Melee Speed Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

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Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 2: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 28 Strength - 99 perfect Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 36 Hits - 99 imperfect Blood Essence
Utility: 59.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 2: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 3: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Utility: 61.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 2: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Utility: 64.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 35.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 78%
Gem 1: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 2: 16 Dexterity - 99 polished Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 25 Piety - 99 flawless Watery Essence
Gem 4: 3 Shield - 99 rough Fiery Battle Jewel
Utility: 60.33

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 16 Dexterity - 99 polished Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 25 Piety - 99 flawless Watery Essence
Gem 3: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 3 Hammer - 99 rough Fiery War Rune
Utility: 59.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Hammer - 99 flawed Fiery War Rune
Gem 2: 4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Stormcalling - 99 flawed Fiery Primal Rune
Gem 4: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Utility: 74.67

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Hammer - 99 flawed Fiery War Rune
Gem 2: 4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Stormcalling - 99 flawed Fiery Primal Rune
Gem 4: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Utility: 74.67

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Harpy's Feather Cloak
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 4 Parry
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 44 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Belt of the Sun
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Fatigue
Effect 2: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 3: 10 Strength
Effect 4: 10 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 6: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 43.33

Right Ring
Name: Cenalon's Ring of Might
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 25 Strength
Effect 2: 12 Dexterity
Effect 3: 12 Constitution
Effect 4: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.67

Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Seven Storms
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Constitution
Effect 2: 13 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 9 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 4 Parry
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.67

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Jergersunn Bracelet
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 30 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 8 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.50

I don't have a thane.. but is +stormcalling worth it?

I dont know thats why i made the post .. to get the info i need to make a good template

I have Stormcalling on my Pre-TOA template, but it doesn't do a lot.
If you have fairly high Stormcalling to start with, it adds about 1 damage to your DD per point in Stormcalling.

So my advice is: only put in Stormcalling if you have a gap to fill, don't sacrifice for it. Nice work on the template though

i'd swap any stormcalling for piety. You only need enough stormcalling to make your sc to 50 for varience purposes, whereas piety adds noticable damage and also adds to your power pool.

Unless you have less than 40 stormcalling.

I've got 48 stormcalling for the final DD and don't have any +sc in template as i get 50 with rr bonus.

Also are you intending to use the belt of the sun weapons? If you are i'd adjust your template round them.

Weapon 6
Strength 27
meelee damage 2
style damage 2
meelee combat speet 2
Energy DD with Debuff.

casting speed?

yaruar said:

i'd swap any stormcalling for piety. You only need enough stormcalling to make your sc to 50 for varience purposes, whereas piety adds noticable damage and also adds to your power pool.

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What he said. Especially given that we get more damage from our nukes in 1.68, so our nuke output - which is modifed by our Piety stat - becomes more of a factor in our overall damage output.

Svartmetall said:

What he said. Especially given that we get more damage from our nukes in 1.68, so our nuke output - which is modifed by our Piety stat - becomes more of a factor in our overall damage output.

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Can't wait for the weekend to try that out and also totally respec myself for caster ras!

ahh so we dont get the crit thing till the next patch was wondering why i couldent get it

Got other nice templates for hammer thane besides mogg's? I'd brefer a template where most items would be drops - few arties could be part of the set too - crafted items would be mostly in the template items like jewelry, bracers etc.

Ixoth said:

Got other nice templates for hammer thane besides mogg's? I'd brefer a template where most items would be drops - few arties could be part of the set too - crafted items would be mostly in the template items like jewelry, bracers etc.

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I was working on a first draft of my ideal template today, major problem with strength being overcapped and no parry and dropping 3 in shield, + a few expensive items in thee but i'm working on it.

Config Report

Stats
Str: 97 Int: 0 Hits: 255
Con: 74 Pie: 70 Power: 0
Dex: 81 Cha: 0
Qui: 43 Emp: 0
Resists
Body: 25 Energy: 26 Crush: 24
Cold: 30 Matter: 24 Thrust: 27
Heat: 27 Spirit: 27 Slash: 27
Skills
4 Stormcalling
11 Hammer
8 Shield
3 Sword
3 Axe

Focus

Cap Increases
5 Dex
40 Hits
10 Str

Other Bonuses
5 Spell Duration Bonus
6 Style Damage Bonus
4 Spell Range Bonus
4 Spell Damage Bonus
6 Melee Damage Bonus
4 Melee Speed Bonus
5 Fatigue

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Name: Foe Hammer Sleeves
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 3 Shield
Effect 3: 24 Constitution
Effect 4: 24 Piety
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Head
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 2: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Thrust Resist - 99 imperfect Airy Shielding
Utility: 64.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 2: 9 Matter Resist - 99 polished Earthen Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Spirit Resist - 99 imperfect Vapor Shielding
Utility: 64.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 13 Dexterity - 99 imperfect Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 7 Thrust Resist - 99 imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Utility: 56.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 25 Dexterity - 99 flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 25 Piety - 99 flawless Watery Essence
Gem 4: 2 Hammer - 99 uncut Fiery War Rune
Utility: 60.00

Right Hand
Name: Belt of the Sun Hammer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Hammer
Effect 2: 27 Strength
Effect 3: 2 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 4: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.00

Left Hand
Name: arcanium magma infused heather shield
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Shield
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 68.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 10 Body Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: darkflame cloak
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 21 Acuity
Effect 6: 5 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Jewel
Name: Eeerie darkness lighting stone
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 3 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 3 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 3 Cold Resist
Effect 5: 3 Body Resist
Effect 6: 3 Slash Resist
Effect 7: 3 Energy Resist
Effect 8: 3 Thrust Resist
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.00

Belt
Name: Belt of the Sun
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Fatigue
Effect 2: 10 Strength
Effect 3: 10 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 43.33

Right Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Left Ring
Name: Morvalt Forcend March Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 18 Quickness
Effect 3: 55 Hits
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 37.75

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

I donno if this been in some othe topic or something, but i've heard that the sunweapons aint sposed to b that good in pvp because they do *whateverdamagetheydoidontremember* even tho they debuff procc vs that type, all have alot of resists vs it usually?

H4rrM said:

I donno if this been in some othe topic or something, but i've heard that the sunweapons aint sposed to b that good in pvp because they do *whateverdamagetheydoidontremember* even tho they debuff procc vs that type, all have alot of resists vs it usually?

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They do energy damage.

It's hard to work out exactly as I don't know the mechanics, but even with high resists and buffs they might work out better than normal weapons as you have both meelee resists, armour and abs rate. Basically it's a free mp legendary weapon from what I can tell...

Again not entirely sure, not done enough RvR with them so far to notice.

I am working on a template myself but still not really done. There's a little issues with it like little qui and less spirit resists.

Here's what I came up in the first part, not including the parts as they probably change again before this day is over..

Question: Is there any good +qui items that also include other usable stats and resists like spirit(Like remove overcapped slash/crush and put in spirit..)?

(Btw Template is made with norse racial resists and axe but that is esily changed as axe skill are in sc parts and used axe(malice) will be hammer later on I heard..

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Stats
Str: 91 Int: 0 Hits: 324
Con: 86 Pie: 75 Power: 0
Dex: 80 Cha: 0
Qui: 5 Emp: 0

Resists
Body: 26 Energy: 25 Crush: 29
Cold: 26 Matter: 25 Thrust: 26
Heat: 27 Spirit: 16 Slash: 30

Skills
3 Parry
11 Shield
11 Axe

Cap Increases
5 Dex
120 Hits
15 Str
10 Con

Other Bonuses
9 Style Damage Bonus
4 Spell Range Bonus
4 Spell Damage Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus
5 Melee Speed Bonus
5 Fatigue
10 AF Bonus

I don't personally own belt of sun, but I've heard that if one dies the equipped weapon will disappear - and if one dies in certain time, all sun weapons generated by the belt will disappear from one's inventory.. so wouldn't battler / malice be better to use as a weapon then?

Also I fancy hammers these days. Better styles and causes less fatigue. So a hammer thane template would be nice to have..

Yep the weapons will dissapear if you die during night time or /quit. The Sun weapons are NOT among the best out there but they are decent overall, have a Thane friendly resist debuff and MOST importantly they are free 100% weapons (for PvE at least)...

Fellow thanes out there. Go one, go all, and register on:
http://www.thrudvang.com
Supposed to be the "new" official Thane forum. Some activity there each day, and in general a good read. Quite a number of nice/cheap/ridiculous/godlike/hopless/artifact heavy/insane templates there, (be sure to check out the german one...) along with quite a lot of other stuff regarding Thanes...

thanes = rerolll, reml, retoa, do template for another char xDD
and maybe u have any use but thats gonna be frontiers, now your just a rp cow.

Z^^ said:

thanes = rerolll, reml, retoa, do template for another char xDD
and maybe u have any use but thats gonna be frontiers, now your just a rp cow.

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Some of us don't like playing savages though and can't be arsed to spent 20+ days played leveling one and optimising it. I'm quite happy playing my thane TBH can do decent enough damage in groups and don't have to sit around bored for hours during keep taking/defending.
With foundations thanes will become more popular anyway as det is nerfed into oblivion and we will all be getting static tempest to destroy the concept of a pbaoe box forever

What we need is less attitudes like yours which can only see a very narrow play style and actually get people who know how to purge and demezz properly

yaruar said:

Some of us don't like playing savages though and can't be arsed to spent 20+ days played leveling one and optimising it. I'm quite happy playing my thane TBH can do decent enough damage in groups and don't have to sit around bored for hours during keep taking/defending.
With foundations thanes will become more popular anyway as det is nerfed into oblivion and we will all be getting static tempest to destroy the concept of a pbaoe box forever

What we need is less attitudes like yours which can only see a very narrow play style and actually get people who know how to purge and demezz properly

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About realm abilities.. which realm abilities are mandatory to have for shield hammer tank thane? I have now long wing 1, first aid 1, augmented dexterity.

Have 2 realm skill points atm to spent.

Ixoth said:

About realm abilities.. which realm abilities are mandatory to have for shield hammer tank thane? I have now long wing 1, first aid 1, augmented dexterity.

Have 2 realm skill points atm to spent.

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I got aug dex II, then MoBlock and MoPain and purge. If you plan on meeting albs/hibs purge is very much needed, and for me as a troll MoBlock is much needed(I have it on level 2).

PaqMan said:

I got aug dex II, then MoBlock and MoPain and purge. If you plan on meeting albs/hibs purge is very much needed, and for me as a troll MoBlock is much needed(I have it on level 2).

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I specced out of purge, in it's current state it is only up every 30 mins and resets the immunity timer, don't see at worthwhile for the cost.

ATM i have
Aug acuity 2
Aug dex 2
Wild Power 2
MoBlock 2
Long Wind
A few others which i'll have to check.

Wild power is an interesting one as it also allows weapon procs to crit which has potential, doesn't add huge damage to spells but makes a difference.

What we need is less attitudes like yours which can only see a very narrow play style and actually get people who know how to purge and demezz properly




I cant agree moore.


Rolf Erikson
" The Happy Thane"
WR

Aug Acuity = waste.
Get Purge and IP, aug con followed up by toughness. Aug dex and MoB.

etcetra said:

Aug Acuity = waste.
Get Purge and IP, aug con followed up by toughness. Aug dex and MoB.

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It's a matter of playstyle though I cast as much as meelee so try to optimise my casting, i'd prefer not to have aug acuity but it's needed for the caster RAs

I found IP only really useful when solo or with little or no healers, again for 23 realm points for a spell which can be used every 30 minutes I can't see the benefits outweighing the cost for me..

I will probably get purge when I hit RR4 but that's still a way off.

I havent looked into a thane-template alot, but my first thoughts would be to cap +dex-cap rather than +str-cap since dex will give better blocking and faster castspeed, str still only slightly improve our already and anyways crappy WS. I would go +25 dex-cap (or 26), then castingspeed, castingdamage, +piety-cap, meleespeed, then if possible, maybe some +str, but since we aint an offensive meleetank I wouldnt prior it tbh. That is for shieldspecced thane btw, for a 2h I would prior +str cap.

noaim said:

I havent looked into a thane-template alot, but my first thoughts would be to cap +dex-cap rather than +str-cap since dex will give better blocking and faster castspeed, str still only slightly improve our already and anyways crappy WS. I would go +25 dex-cap (or 26), then castingspeed, castingdamage, +piety-cap, meleespeed, then if possible, maybe some +str, but since we aint an offensive meleetank I wouldnt prior it tbh. That is for shieldspecced thane btw, for a 2h I would prior +str cap.

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Whoever thought of that you should only be able to edit for 20 mins should get a 20 mins headstart before being chased by something that he is afraid of.

Anyways, remove +castdamage, or move it down the list to last spot