This is pathetic.

Seriously, how the heck can GOA keep the servers running like this? Since ToA release we've had numerous server maintanence and supposedly improvement of the servers and they're still a pile of shit. Entering combat mode 20 seconds after pressing a style, being attacked by mobs you can't even see. How are we meant to play like this?
Surely we should get some kind of compensation. I'm sure none of us bought the ToA expansion to play it like this.


This is on Mid/pry, btw.

Agree.

Gave up in frustration leveling my artifacts because its just impossible to style, making it almost impossible to kill oj/red mobs because i cant use any reactionary styles at all.

It is a server problem GoA, so instead of upgrading the f**king french or german servers which are A Ok.. Fix ours ffs.

not like goa work weekends

Game was hard to play since TOA I agree .. but the past few days it's become completely unplayable for me... I ld every 5 or 10 minutes!!... But only on Prydwen .. I can play on Excal for hours and hours but Pryd boots me every 5 minutes... funny part is my second account (on second pc) can be running smooth as a whistle at the exact same moment I ld.. or the other way around... I even see myself style right upto when I ld on my second screen... when on my main screen I'm looking at 2 red bubs and a frozen screen.

Tried reboots, reinstall, total viruscheck even another internet connection ... I am f00ked till they upgrade

Atm i'm going ld every 15 mins aprox on Prydwen. Excal is a different story, i hardly ever ld there.

last night on pryd a invisible rocot in df went berserk on lowbies.

he got good rps xD

they got to be joking us. this completely unplayable, getting farmed by pve = lose. Installing Diablo 2 as i type this... :/

Fixxx teh server plzzz

Another year, same crap service from GOA I see.

No surprises there.

Still shit, worse than before even. Mobs right in front of me hitting me, whilst I get target to far away or out of view, and 20 seconds to enter melee.

Karmatika said:

Installing Diablo 2 as i type this... :/

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I tried that too, it didn't work... I gave up after 5 days and 81 lvls and loads of item farming. The game is shit easy now even if you compare to the easy game it was before ^^

Chimaira said:

last night on pryd a invisible rocot in df went berserk on lowbies.

he got good rps xD

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lol :touch:

- the lag is UNBEARBABLE!!!! (and i have tried it on both a P4 1.8, and a 3.0)
- f8 doesnt pick up nearest target anymore
- mobs lag in and out of sight, sometimes following you through dungeons for miles, nuking/DoTing through floors, ceilings, walls, etc.

Seems kinda odd to me also that i have just been and tried all my other toons, including the ones on the french servers from the luri invasion, and not one of them has shown me any problems whatsoever.

As a resident of Prydwen server, im pretty pissed about this, seeing as we were told quite clearly when the newest french one opened, that Prydwen didnt warrant any new hardware, and English speakers in europe CERTAINLY dont deserve a third server!! THAT SERVER HAS BEEN LOWER THAN F**KING CAMLANN SINCE THE DAY IT OPENED!!!!!!!!!!!

GoA, is this server-specific problem some weasly ploy to get all of us from Prydwen to move over to Excal, or learn a foreign language, so's that you can empty out Prydwen and turn it into the 5th French server?

Hey, Mythic, if any of you guys are reading this, how about point out to GoA that half the known bloody world speaks English, including the USofA, a shed load of SA & Australia, but nooo, until the numbers are up on Prydwen and Excal, lets just keep driving away those numbers required by only offering love to the french and german players.

On that note, how about a mod in each of the startup guilds too, maybe? Seeing as i can rarely get a word in edgeways for all the FRENCH and GERMAN being spoken on them, then told im going to be reported for hasseling when i point out its an english speaking server!!

thanks a bunch GoA - i really feel like a valued customer, no, i mean it... really...

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As a resident of Prydwen server, im pretty pissed about this, seeing as we were told quite clearly when the newest french one opened, that Prydwen didnt warrant any new hardware, and English speakers in europe CERTAINLY dont deserve a third server!! THAT SERVER HAS BEEN LOWER THAN F**KING CAMLANN SINCE THE DAY IT OPENED!!!!!!!!!!!

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Broceliande and Ys would be full at prime time without this 4th server (just add the numbers of players).

Rediknight said:

GoA, is this server-specific problem some weasly ploy to get all of us from Prydwen to move over to Excal, or learn a foreign language, so's that you can empty out Prydwen and turn it into the 5th French server?

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Yeah it's a conspiracy for sure . However I think Carnac server is the old Excalibur server (GOA added Carnac 1 week after Excalibur upgrade).
They would more likly turn it into the 6th german server since Dartmoor (the 5th german server) has got the same population as Prydwen.

Rediknight said:

Hey, Mythic, if any of you guys are reading this, how about point out to GoA that half the known bloody world speaks English, including the USofA, a shed load of SA & Australia, but nooo, until the numbers are up on Prydwen and Excal, lets just keep driving away those numbers required by only offering love to the french and german players.

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GOA handle european servers not world servers. In Europe the first mother tongue is the german language. 2nd : french language, 3th : english language.

lets just keep driving away those numbers required by only offering love to the french and german players

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Oh and for your information, german language is not only the mother tongue in Germany but in Austria and Switzerland aswell. French language as mother tongue : France, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Belgium (southern part with Brussel), Quebec (Canada), North Africa.
So more likely "a love" to half of Western Europe players (German + french speaking countries) if I don't count players from Canada (Quebec has more or less the same population as one of the scandinavian country) and North Africa.


BTW I don't see the link between the lag on Prydwen and the fact that half of the world understand english language.

Ning said:

Yeah it's a conspiracy for sure . However I think Carnac server is the old Excalibur server (GOA added Carnac 1 week after Excalibur upgrade).
They would more likly turn it into the 6th german server since Dartmoor (the 5th german server) has got the same population as Prydwen

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If its the same population as prydwen, then a 6th ain't needed. If you paid for a meal and some got three courses for their cash, others 4, but you only got two, would you be happy? onto the next... i hate getting into these picky arguments, but hey, you started this...

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GOA handle european servers not world servers. In Europe the first mother tongue is the german language. 2nd : french language, 3th : english language.

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Alright then, i best go tell all the yanks, australians and S'Africans to go and play elsewhere, as they aren't catered for by GoA shall i? Lets point out also, that you, along with im sure half of the French/German players in the realms, speak English. For many brits, we weren't offered the chance to learn a second language - i understand it is compulsory in most EU schools now? Then give me a break and get over this whole English being the third most important language in europe... It's without a doubt the most widely spoken language in the world.

Oh and for your information, german language is not only the mother tongue in Germany but in Austria and Switzerland aswell.

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I'll split this one up then - Switzerland is a favorite country of mine, and the primary language is not German. Swiss is a close resemblance of German, ill give you that, but you go tell a Swiss they speak German... go on try it...

French language as mother tongue : France, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Belgium (southern part with Brussel), Quebec (Canada), North Africa.

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Righty - Switzerland again... s'funny, that a country can have TWO mother tongues... thats just greedy imo. Belgium?? you reckon? so what of Flemmish? What of the Dutch speaking people of Belgium? Canada - alrighty, they only speak french as its not american heh!

BTW I don't see the link between the lag on Prydwen and the fact that half of the world understand english language.

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Its been a moan on these boards since the first sign of dirt that we are being short changed basically. We pay the same subs, we play the same game, yet we are not considered worthy of a hardware upgrade (unless this has happened in my time away). We had fears of Prydwen being closed altogether because of the low attendance numbers at one point, then along comes Carnacc, and that has less than even Camlann at peak times!! Prydwen appears to be considered the "second class" english speaking server, i fear, and therefore will always be the poor relation at the bottom of the stack (just above Camlann).

As i speak, there are barely 500 people on Carnac - GIVF ENGLISH SPEAKING CO-OP SERVER!!!!!!!

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Trials of Atlantis & Stability

After upgrading the hardware of Brocéliande & Avalon (on-top of all the upgrades done in preparation of Trials of Atlantis), and having positive feedback about it, we proceed to upgrade more servers yesterday, including Ys, Excalibur & Lyonesse. The first reports are quite encouraging and the overall stability has been noticeably increased.

Based on this, we will now proceed to upgrade all remaining servers step by step in the coming weeks and of course keep on working hand in hand with Mythic to offer the best game experience possible.

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Hopfully Pyr will get upgraded soon. Its interesting though, that all this seems to have started within the same week as the initial server upgrades.

either treat it as a godsend in that we`ll get upgraded first being the most unstable server since the patch or look at it this way in that, they have upgraded our server by using the hardware from one of the bigger german or french servers and its fubar.

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If its the same population as prydwen, then a 6th ain't needed. If you paid for a meal and some got three courses for their cash, others 4, but you only got two, would you be happy? onto the next... i hate getting into these picky arguments, but hey, you started this...

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The difference with Prydwen is that the number of players on Dartmoor is still growing.
http://camelot-europe.goa.com/stats/stats.php?lng=de

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Alright then, i best go tell all the yanks, australians and S'Africans to go and play elsewhere, as they aren't catered for by GoA shall i?

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Don't tell me there is a large population of americans on european server whereas they have got their own servers. Australians get a better ping on US servers than on EU servers (for any game).

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Lets point out also, that you, along with im sure half of the French/German players in the realms, speak English.

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There is a major difference between a language learnt at school and the mother tongue used in day-to-day life. I think it's not hard to understand even if you don't speak a foreign language. Moreover 12 year-old people in these countries don't speak good enough english to play a game in this language.

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For many brits, we weren't offered the chance to learn a second language - i understand it is compulsory in most EU schools now?

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oh poor brits ...
In most EU schools (except UK) it's 2 foreign languages + national language.

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Then give me a break and get over this whole English being the third most important language in europe...

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Didn't I write at last 3 times the sentence : "mother tongue" in my previous post ?

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It's without a doubt the most widely spoken language in the world.

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without a doubt the first mother tongue in the world is Mandarin Chinese.

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I'll split this one up then - Switzerland is a favorite country of mine, and the primary language is not German. Swiss is a close resemblance of German, ill give you that, but you go tell a Swiss they speak German... go on try it...

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So why the f*uck are there a lot of german speaking swiss in my guild on Avalon server ? Are they lost ?

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Righty - Switzerland again... s'funny, that a country can have TWO mother tongues... thats just greedy imo.

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Switzerland has 4 official languages : german ( 63.7% of the population), french (19.2% of the population), Italian (7.6%) and Romansch (0.6%). other (8.9%) are non official. So yes Switzerland has 4 mother tongues.

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Belgium?? you reckon? so what of Flemmish? What of the Dutch speaking people of Belgium?

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Why do you think I wrote "(southern part with Brussel)" in my first post ???
As far as I remember (but I may be wrong) :
Dutch speaking : about 55%
French speaking : about 40%
Flemmish : 5%
There is also a small part with german speaking people.

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Canada - alrighty, they only speak french as its not american heh!

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Are you kidding ?? Where did I say they only spoke french in the whole Canada ??!
Moreover I was speaking about Quebec (you know, one of Canada's province).

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As i speak, there are barely 500 people on Carnac - GIVF ENGLISH SPEAKING CO-OP

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It's 900 people at prime time on Carnac. It's nearly impossible to complete some ML with so few people (ie : 4.2 ML). You want the same server ?

I hate people changing the numbers ....

Ning said:

The difference with Prydwen is that the number of players on Dartmoor is still growing.
http://camelot-europe.goa.com/stats/stats.php?lng=de

Why do you think I wrote "(southern part with Brussel)" in my first post ???
As far as I remember (but I may be wrong) :
Dutch speaking : about 55%
French speaking : about 40%
Flemmish : 5%
There is also a small part with german speaking people.

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get your facts straight

dutch speaking = flemmish , and you have the provinces vlaams-brabant (dutch) and waals-brabant (french) (used to be one province)

oficially belgium is tri-langual (dutch/french/german)


as for the rest :

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Then give me a break and get over this whole English being the third most important language in europe... It's without a doubt the most widely spoken language in the world.

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Sorry but both Hindi and Cantonese are spoken by more people. Spanish comes a very close fourth.

Q_Q..

and fix lax :<

Actually English is the most widely spoken second language.

Not that this helps anyone on this thread.

English speaking people seem fundamentally unwilling to speak a second language which, to some degree at least, explains why English is such a common second language. Cause and effect? Or simply too much Hollywood, internet and capitalism? Who knows?

It's a deep question and I for one am too drunk to answer it

English is the most widely understood language.

It doesn't mean the English servers should get priority over the French/German ones, but at least there should be two functional servers. And why does Excalibur get upgraded before Prydwen? sure, they have a higher population, but everyone knows Excalibur players are.... well..., not as deserving of an upgade as Prydwen

Well looking around the internet most people seem convinced that :-

a). Mandarin.
b). English
c). Hindustani.
d). Spanish.

In that order.

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Sorry but both Hindi and Cantonese are spoken by more people. Spanish comes a very close fourth.

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Cantonese isnt even in the top 10 at a stretch.

Yeah, ok... very nice arguments about who's language pwns, but it doesn't fix the fact that post patch Prydwen sucks and needs some serious help!

This thread is an example of something that has been noted on the US servers post ToA namely people are no longer as civil as they were (the co-op server boards, Gaheris, are a good place to look). The majority view arrived at was that people were increasingly frustrated with ToA - server crashes, bug fixes, encounters not working as intended, nerfs etc. Lots of little things resulting in the game becoming less friendly.

I've experienced the invisible beasties and invisble groupmates thing, even while just hunting in Avalon City.

However, it has an upside: you can't see half ogres which are just so...damn...ugly

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English speaking people seem fundamentally unwilling to speak a second language

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Thats because we only start to learn a second language in secondary school, where as many other countrys start learning in primary which makes everything so much easier (correct me if im wrong )

Cyfr said:

Thats because we only start to learn a second language in secondary school, where as many other countrys start learning in primary which makes everything so much easier (correct me if im wrong )

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Started learning French in prep school, then chose to do Spanish in secondary school when given the choice between Spanish and German. Carried on doing french too during that time...