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[Gwadien]

Watching Starmer is like watching a live video of Milliband eating bacon butties on repeat isn't it @Raven

Anyway:

What like then? Specifically.

Sucking a dick that you don't want to suck is always going to be unpleasant. This is exactly what it was always going to feel like.


So you think Putin's going to invade NATO countries do you?

I mean, he's been there for more than two and a half decades, but because Trump has decided to end a war that's caused a million casualties Putin's going to invade us?

Why now?

You're clearly not paying attention or being ignorant

 

[Scouse]

You're clearly not paying attention or being ignorant

You clearly don't like answering direct questions.

 

[DaGaffer]

Maybe try to answer the questions @Tom?

How many people need to die? Is there a line or a number where you go "OK that's enough"? Do you honestly think America was ever going to bottom-lessly fund a war?

I mean I've got no kids, but a million casualties sounds like a fuck of a lot of people killed and injured to me. That's a lot of parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters crying into the soil. When is enough?

Going to throw your kids into the grinder @DaGaffer? Same questions to you...

Pure whataboutery. If NATO actually fought the Russians there would be no kids getting callups (because we don't fight with human waves and haven't since 1918) and there would be a lot less dead Russians as well as Ukrainians in the long run.

Russia will only be actually stopped if they're booted out of Ukraine and Ukraine is given NATO and EU membership. Anything else is window dressing until the next round. This isn't a story since 2022, it's a story that's been going on for a century. Read your history about Russia's ongoing efforts to get it's empire back, which has never gone away, just takes a breather now and then.

 

[Deebs]

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Sucking a dick that you don't want to suck is always going to be unpleasant.
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Is that what Miss Scouse said?

 

[Lamp]

Slightly off topic here, but why does Musk jump around everywhere like a kid ?
There are plenty of wealthy people who are able to stand still.

Does he literally have ants in his pants ?

 

[Scouse]

Pure whataboutery. If NATO actually fought the Russians there would be no kids getting callups (because we don't fight with human waves and haven't since 1918) and there would be a lot less dead Russians as well as Ukrainians in the long run.

Russia will only be actually stopped if they're booted out of Ukraine and Ukraine is given NATO and EU membership. Anything else is window dressing until the next round. This isn't a story since 2022, it's a story that's been going on for a century. Read your history about Russia's ongoing efforts to get it's empire back, which has never gone away, just takes a breather now and then.

You're defining a million casualties as "whataboutery"?

Well what about the million casualties then @DaGaffer?

Your argument is bollocks. If NATO fought Russia it would turn nuclear and end us all.



So in the actual real, not rabid fantasist, world - what is important now is stopping the killing.

There seems to be a real desire to keep pushing Ukranians at Russia until there's no Ukranians left. It's callous and it's unthinking. But you won't say it out loud will you - by answering my question.

How many casualties is enough? Two million? Five million?

 

[Raven]

I think we should invade mainland Europe, then say to them, guys, guys, if you don't let us just take over there will be deaths, move along now.

It doesn't work like that.

 

[Scouse]

On this tho:

Read your history about Russia's ongoing efforts to get it's empire back, which has never gone away, just takes a breather now and then.

Yep. Monkeys will fight. Borders continue to change, constantly. War is more or less inevitable over long periods of time.

Minimise death should be the objective.

 

[Scouse]

It doesn't work like that.

Nothing works like people think it works when nuclear weapons sit in the background just aching for the first monkey to break the taboo.

 

[DaGaffer]

You're defining a million casualties as "whataboutery"?

Well what about the million casualties then @DaGaffer?

Your argument is bollocks. If NATO fought Russia it would turn nuclear and end us all.



So in the actual real, not rabid fantasist, world - what is important now is stopping the killing.

There seems to be a real desire to keep pushing Ukranians at Russia until there's no Ukranians left. It's callous and it's unthinking. But you won't say it out loud will you - by answering my question.

How many casualties is enough? Two million? Five million?

NATO isn't going to fight Russia. NATO is dead. European allies will need to fight Russia, and if Ukrainians are willing to fight for their country and professional soldiers from Europe are willing to fight for Ukraine, what's your problem? And please don't say "but the nuuuuukes". Russians don't want to die in fire any more than the rest of us.

 

[Scouse]

NATO isn't going to fight Russia. NATO is dead. European allies will need to fight Russia, and if Ukrainians are willing to fight for their country and professional soldiers from Europe are willing to fight for Ukraine, what's your problem? And please don't say "but the nuuuuukes". Russians don't want to die in fire any more than the rest of us.

So, two things:

If NATO actually fought the Russians there would be no kids getting callups

and:

what's your problem

The million casualties is my problem. I've been banging on about these (not-all-voluntary) casualties for a few posts now and nobody wants to give a straight answer.

So, back to the question again. Assuming America will fund your fantasy forever war - how many deaths is OK Gaff? Two million? Five million? Unlimited?